I'm at the bottom

I'm at the bottom.

How is this fair?

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Its not fair but men of the past let this happen and now it is codified in law and culture.

It's not. Go be 12 years old somewhere else.

>lifes not fair

cry elsewhere safespace liberal

Trump won, its over for you betas

So, this isn't exactly accurate. Ugly girls do not get to sleep with hot guys, and girls have to go out of their way to look as good as possible...unlike you and me. There is something like being a "loser in the sexual revolution," though, and I get that. Female sexuality tends to be endlessly celebrated and nutured, with a strong sense of pushback against criticism and judgment. Male sexuality is described in yerms that would make a meal from a soggy dumpster sound appetizing. Here's how you get past it: enjoy your porn, buy sex toys, use and appreciate sex workers...and treat women like equals despite what people think you must believe. If you are female, it will always be easier (in almost all cases) to find a willing partner. Women aren't judged for not having sex (they get judged for having too much). Don't lapse into self-pity. There are women out there who will fuck you...you just gotta find them.

>TFW you are the minimum to get somewhat regular pussy

that was close bros.

How tall are you, user? And how many partners? I'm a manlet and have had 4. The only thing that I'm proud of sexually is that I've fucked more girls in the ass than in the pussy. I don't even know why I'm proud of that...but I am.

Dude, I'm married and it's still a struggle. I masturbate at least once a day, sometimes (often) twice or more. My wife masturbates about twice a month.

6'1 been with 7 girls. I'm 23

It's not fair. Life is not fair. Deal with it.

you need to be more attractive to her

Work out or something, if there is one thing I have learned in my 27 years its that women put out but only if you are attractive to them

when you get to your late thirties in shape and with a good job you automatically go to the top.

your call

Life isn't fair.

What in god's name made you think it was?

What is "the minimum?" Don't be ugly and don't be short are two key rules (hey, you can be fat and male and stillget laid, right?). I'm guessing you need to be about 5'10 to participate in hookup culture if you are make (under 160lbs if you are female). You can orobably make it at 5'8" if you are good-looking or charming (hey...I had a manlet friend in HS who slept with a lot of women...but he as super-charming). As with all things in life, appearances matter. I'm not saying they shouldn't. Just curious about wherethe bar is set.

Have you been asleep Rip Van Winkle-like for the past twenty years? The entire conceptofsocial justice is built upon the concept of making things "more fair."

Yeah, well you're not entitled to pussy. pussy is something you earn, not something that is given to you. Much like everything else in life. So why should pussy be any different?

This, basically. Yeah sucks to be you but no one cares so figure it out loser.

There is some truth here. Men get betterlooking as they age. If you are angry at a woman who wouldn't fuck you in her twenties, then enjoy your schadenfreude as she realizes she no longer has every guy's attention when she's pushing 35. You think the "cock carousel" is unfair? Just wait 15 years.

You don't "earn" pussy. Itt's shared with you for reasons that are mostly out of your control, so that the owner of said pussy can get something that she wants from *you*.

>The entire conceptofsocial justice is built upon the concept of making things "more fair."

Supposedly.

If life was fair to begin with, there would be no reason to make things "more fair".

Im 35.

When High school rather plump, bigger but not fat guys. Now? I am build like 20yo. Every one from school year are fatter and much more destroyed. I have a brother 8 years younger and many people think that we are gemini.

Now im free. I have a long list of bitches that want to be with me, but i dont want to be with them. Thats my choice. Yes i am very picky. I can allow it to myself. Ive always could.

im not sure I just manage to get led semi-regularly so I must make the cut.


Im attractive (so ive been told) and 5'11 but not like in amazing shape or anything.

I agreed with your premise, but said, in essence, that no one accepts the unfairness of life, unless they have an advantage relative to other people.

is this how Sup Forums sees the world? did you all just hit middle school? go outside Sup Forumsros

>no one accepts the unfairness of life

I don't see how anyone could deny it.

By "accept", do you mean acknowledge it? Or do you mean "be fine with it"?

I could ask the 3 women I woke up with but I already know the answer.
You are not willing to do anything to make yourself appealing to women. For years people have told you that going to the gym and having interesting hobbies would fix this for you, and for years you have ignored this and just continued to making whining posts like this.

Curb the narcissism. You are not special. You do not deserve hot women.
Go to the gym, get jacked. Learn how to dress. Learn some skills like cooking and rock climbing/flying/jesus anything that is not vidya games and animoo/MLP (you can love the animu/games/MLP/car modding but get somethings that are normal that you can talk about).

You are close to 6' which is the magic number. I don't know why, but your height matters enormously. I am 5'3", had a lot of girl "friends" but very few girlfriends. Hey...it wasn't easy for me, but I made it. I'm married, and much happier with my sex life. It still boils my blood when guys like you get women throwing themselves at you, while people like me have to sit through sexual assault seminars that pathologize normal sexual nstincts and then get lectured about "entitlement." Hope you understand where I'm coming from.

kek

Puh-lease. You have far more to offer than OP, and that is just the way it is. You are "lucky," and I am genuinely happy for you. You didn't choose the Chad life...it chose you.

>while people like me have to sit through sexual assault seminars that pathologize normal sexual nstincts

Kek. Remember how you have to go to a sexual assault seminar, if you are under a certain height?

Also, your "narcissism" is nothing more than the fake self-esteem that young men (and women) get pumped up with, only to find out, as you wrote, that we are not "special." It's a fairy tale that we are told, and it makes the truth that much harder to deal with. Here is some truth for you: if you want to sleep around and you are a guy, ditch your standards. No one cares if you fucked a fatty, and fat pussy feels just as good as skinny pussy. Fat pussy usually comes attached to a girl who will be grateful for the attention, and sometimes it comes with the invitation to meet its cousin, fat butthole. And you haven't lived until you've fucked a fat girl in the ass. Trust me.

what the hell did you do?

I can remmeber this one time, a girl, she was my roomates girlfriends best friend.

I was giving her a "tour of the house" and brought her to my room, she leand out the window to wave at her friends in the front yard, she was in this blue dress and I just went up behind her and grabbed her pussy Trump style.

(this was a couple years ago)

She just let out this little squeak and said "i knew you were a freak" We fucked right then and there

Great time.

Fucking this, so much this.

Entitled losers will look at the OP's image, and say 'God, I hate sexual liberation! I DESERVE women on my cock, god dammit it! I HATE CHAD!!! REEEEEE'

I'm a loser, but at least I'm not an entitled loser who hates women because they're not interested in me.

What are you doing to actively improve yourself, besides striving for Diamond on League of Legends?

Depends, have you ever bothered to better yourself in an attempt to become more like the guy at the top? If not then it's perfectly fair, you're at the bottom by choice, not luck.

You missed my point, fuckface. When you are not getting any, you believe the horseshit they tell you. You make an effort to treat women the way they tell you all women want to be treated. And you still strike out. When you are using stain remover to get the grool stains off your jeans, it is far easier to ignore this shit, and recognize it as such. You don't have to swallow the load that women are sexually reserved and don't enjoy sex. You know different because you have fucked a few real, live girls. It makes a difference, fuckface. I know you will probably still argue with me, and I don't expect you to see my argument clearly. Pussy done gone to your head! Good.

Fucking alpha.

You're lucky it worked out for you though. I'm way too conscious of getting charged with something. I've seen it happen way too often for me to ignore it man

It's not entitlement. It's expectation. Women have them, too, and they can be just as unrealistic.

Even if it wasn't by choice, it's still fair. It's natural selection. Monogamy and sexual repression were just artificial means to keep undesirables in the gene pool imo

>it's not entitlement to think you deserve sex for nothing

ok manlet

Stop being picky. Pussy feels good. Ugly women will be grateful for the attention. They will pay attention to you, as if you really mattered. Because, the truth is, you do.

As the saying goes, the best and top 80% of women only go for the best and top 20% of men.

Let me tell you how its fair:
You have aesthetics - you have girl who loves you for your body
You have diploma in a field that actually gets you a job -you have girl who loves you for your money, if not, for your future potential
You are intimidating, good at fighting, you have military training - you have girl who loves you for the protection you can provide to her
You have access to weed/heroin/meth- you have girl who loves you for the dope you can provide her
You are a shitposter on Sup Forums which means you have no talent no determination, no resources or connections, you have given up or failed every opportunity you ever had and you never achieved anything of value in your life - there is a nigress who's already pregnant and hairy landwhale who is so desperate that she has no standards, waiting for you.

>no one
You mean no social justice warrior
Do you realize where you are?

Thats proud af fuck mate.
Means your a fAggot

It's true, just sucks that you know you're only at the top because none of the other alphas want her anymore, they've traded her in for a younger model. So basically you're still just getting alpha leftovers.

Same. I'm 6'0" and have slept with 7 different girls. I'm 22

I am married, and therefore retired. I play vidya sparingly. Remember that not everyone on this site is 19 and autistic. Some are, and many of those could not, as comedian David Spade once quipped, "Get laid in a monkey whorehouse with a bushel full of bananas." You are lucky. They are not. I don't go out of my way to find poor people in third world countries and tell them, "Get it together, Sanjay!" Please examine your own behavior in that light.

5'10 been with 55 girls
I'm 27...

What the fuck are you even talking about. You're posting in the wrong thread. This is coming from a conservative.

>The only thing that I'm proud of sexually is that I've fucked more girls in the ass than in the pussy. I don't even know why I'm proud of that...but I am.
Fucking meme man.

Were you making a joke about having to attend a sexual assault seminar? If not, then I think I am well justified in thinking there is something wrong with you.

That's not true.

You only call it 'unfair' if you're at the bottom. I'm a virgin, but I don't blame women for that. I know that I'm responsible for my position in life, I don't blame anyone else.

It's not really unfair, you just wish it was so you have an excuse.

That's impressive. Proud of you, user! They are marching on Washington, but you made at least seven women forget about what Trump represents for at least seven minutes.

This

>You didn't choose the Chad life...it chose you.
In 3rd grade I was any of you. My parents were friendless, genius, nerds. I didn't want to be a loser like them.
I wanted to start lifting weights then and ended up doing shitty 1 arm lifts with mom's "If I buy these I won't be fat anymore 6lb dumbells". I beat one of my athletic friends in arm wrestling *W00t!!!*.
Parents wouldn't let me lift at the Y because I was too young and they wouldn't get me weights because they didn't want me to become a jock (or quite honestly to be loved by anyone.. my parents sucked).
In 8th grade my school offered weight training so my parents had no say. Spent 6 months of my allowance in 9th grade on an EZ bar and just did curls at home.
10th grad/Sr high I could just go to the weight room and skipped classes for more time with the weights. If I was drunk I'd talk to women and they'd fuck me for that.
11th grade I'd go to physics on test day to cap tests and ruin the curve for the nerds before making fun of the idiot teacher and then going back to the weights. went to treatment that year but got to train with a pro for a few months due to that.
Sr year my chest was 20+ inches bigger than my waist.
Year off between HS and college I went on the party circuit and lifted or partied. People at the gym would walk up to me and ask how to get in shape.
College, hot women would just walk up to me in the gym and just watch me lift.
I chose the life.Genius, pilot, beast, chef, video game lover, anime collector, car dude, designer, life saver, rock climber, boy toy/gigolo, fucking everything.
Shit isn't easy or fast but women love you for it. My goal was never to be Chad, my goal was to be God.
These days I love my life and it is awesome but it took a lot of fucking years to get to that point.

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We can agree to disagree. Women and men are not equal in the way we talk about their desires and their sexuality. That is all I meant. They will never be equal, so the concept of "fairness" is key. We are undergoing a movement to chanre our culture that, in my opinion, pathologizes sex, and emphasizes the bad things that can happen when you have sex. It has gotten worse as I'be aged (went to college in the 90's). That's all I meant. You have a disadvantage because people think you should feel the sam shane and regret that gets heaped onto women when they are sexual. I think that is horseshit, that it hurts women and men.
Nothing wrong with being a virgin, btw. We all were one once. And it's actually very hard to find a willing partner for most men.

There have always been losers at the bottom.

At least company in spirit, even if you die alone and rejected.

weak men

Thanks, user! And i love to think about how it will only get better as I get older as a man! And as my beard grows out fully lol

Sir I think you have a victim complex.

It's really not hard to be in the top 20% of men.

Step 1: Get educated
Step 2: Work out
Step 3: Get a decent job

That's really it.

You don't even have to have all the steps. You can do just one of the steps and still be able to get laid.

There are very few men who are so inherently ugly that there's very little hope for them. Yeah, that's unfair, but chances are you are not one of them.

Any denial of this reality is just stubborn laziness.

Shit is different when you're married dude. Ain't nobody going to stay enamored by you for that long. Doesn't matter what you do. Sure you can reboot things sexually occasionally but it'll the novelty will always fade again if you're with the same person for a considerable amount of time.

you didnt do any of this faggot but I know you really wish you had.

Step 4: Be funny

Don't forget step 4 as you need that to keep any girl interested!

1. You don't need to, niggers are the most uneducated people yet they breed like rabbits
2. Will probably make you more attractive in general but people with better genes will need to work out less. Also, an ugly face is often a deal breaker anyway.
3. See 1.

Good job bro

You are proof that these entitled anons with victim complexes are wrong

Fucker, I could have done all those things, and I'd be a barrel-chested manlet. Stop giving yourself so mch credit. You didn't feed the poor or shelter the homeless, you acted in narrow self-interest so that you could get laid. Do you want a cookie? You *got* a cookie. And it looked and tasted like a hot girl's pussy. You are going to reply with something that rebuts my point, so consider this: would you have had the sane success doing what you did if you were six inches shorter?

No, conservatives wont whine that they are beta bitches.

Youre as liberal cucky as they come

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>you didnt do any of this faggot but I know you really wish you had.
If believing that is what it takes you to get through your day, more power to you.

Haha wtf.

I was patient and persistent. I dated online, and kept an open mind. My wife is overweight, and I love her dearly. Start jacking to chubby threads. It's way easier to get laid when you pursue women who *will* fuck you.

Faggots here think women are just like one group who wants the "chads" who are hot and popular. In reality, most women don't.

Women want a large variety of things in guys, but I'd say the general things you need are relatively basic social skills (compared to the girl), decent life skills (being able to eat politely, being decently clean...), some things you care about and make you passionate, and enough confidence to ask them out and make it obvious you're interested. That's about it. Even outside of this, some guys manage to get laid.

You could literally have 5 cats and provide charity work for an animal shelter, and if you're passionate enough about it, that would make some women wet. Even video games could get you some pussy if you don't just play like a retard, but participate in events and socialize and so on.

2'3 been with 61 girls. I'm 7

Grow a beard, man. I did, and it gives me something I've never: a look.

treat her like shit. don't hit her, just give her short and vague answers and never ask her a question even if you need to. if she threatens divorce, look relieved, say sth along the lines "yeah please do"

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>would you have had the sane success doing what you did if you were six inches shorter?
Yep.
I would have become a mountain climber (tall chicks) or just got really into Asian chicks. Shit, in my neighbor hood a dude who is 5'4" will tower over the Hmong girls around here, Thai is another sweet option.
Sylvester Stallone was just find dating Bridgeete Neilsen, he is like 5'7" and she was 6'2". No shame in being a mountain climber man.
Well in college I had no issues hitting on the hot blond on the volley ball team who had an inch or two on me. I got shot down as she only liked dark meat (she had real bad esteem issues about her height. She should have embraced that shit.).
Just keep going for it.

When I was a teen and a 20-something I could almost not get a date. A second date or a girlfriend were out of the question. I was not what women wanted. They wanted the scumbag bad boys, who treated the girls like shit, broke their hearts and had no prospects in life. That was the sort of POS who made their panties wet.
About age 30, women began to take an interest. Soon they began to make their interest plain and even hit on me. These were the same sort of women who would have looked at me as though I was dog shit on their shoe when they were 20.
Now, I ignore most of them and pretend to not pick up on the blatant displays of interest. Too much resentment and remembered pain for me to be interested.

tl;dr : Women are hypergamous elitist gold-digging narcissistic self-absorbed sociopathic highly manipulative and unfaithful pieces of shit.

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So, you're upset that 'sexual liberation' means women have the ability to choose their male counterparts, and simply being *you* isn't enough to guarantee you a wife or girlfriend anymore.

Get fucked, welcome to the ugly kids' table. I suggest you pick up a hobby.

I know that on Sup Forums we mock manlets, but I can think of several short people in real life who get pussy, way more pussy than me.

If what you're saying is true, then short people wouldn't get laid.

You have a victim complex.

>I can't get laid
>I am short
>Therefore short people can't get laid

That's a fallacy. I don't know what it's called, but I'm sure this fallacy has a name. Any smartanons wanna help me out?

>projecting this much

I've actually been arguing throughout this thread that anyone can be a chad if they work for it.

Take your politics back to your containment board please.

It's not fair, of course, life is a bitch.

But to get a girl all you need are three things.
And they are the 3 Cs.
>CLEANLINESS
This doesn't only mean to take a shower, to not smell like a rotting skunk. It means to keep yourself tidy: Beard trimmed, hair not messy(unless the haircut is like that), clean and not-wrinkly clothes.
>CONFIDENCE
Maybe the most important quality. A woman is an animal, she looks for what is coded into her. And that is a strong man, that can protect her. Asserting yourself as a dominant will go a long way. This does NOT mean that you should act like an ass. Just show her that she can trust you, because you are stronger.
>CHARISMA
This is the most subjective part, not everybody can like you, if it doesn't work, go along. You can boost your charisma by talking with her about more personal topics and listening to her, but this is in a later stage in the relationship. If she hates you at first, it WILL take a long time to change her mind, if at all.

Some women are bitches...but there are some good girls out there.

Ask yourself this: why is it that way? Why do women gravitate to the guy at the top? Because they find him attractive. If you could have any woman, would you sleep with the one at the bottom at the female side? No, you wouldn't. You would sleep with the most attractive one. It's one of few places, but women do hold most of the power when it comes to sexuality. Wich means that they can choose the guy THEY want.

If all guys made an effort to look decent, act like a functioning sexual being and tried to view women as people rather than pieces of meat for them to conquer it would even out.

So find out how you can become the best person you can be, and you will move up that chain. Put an effort into how you look and behave. Put an effort into your career.

Slight detail so you will believe my opinoin. 24years old, 178cm tall, 120kg. 40-something intercourse-partners, 60-ish if you count all sexual acts. Currently have a rotation of 3 women I sleep with, 2 of whom are very physically attractive. They come by when they need a chat, a glass of wine and/or a couple orgasms.

It's not about it being fair, if you don't posses the qualities a woman wants in a man you're shit out of luck. They're not obligated to date you, that's life deal with it, it isn't some game where the rules have to be fair, suck it bitch nigger

>So, this isn't exactly accurate.
The part on the right is actually a representation of how women act towards male sexual partners. Women always try to fuck their way up the social standing (I believe this is called hypergamy). In fact, I'm pretty sure the original shows the left as what men go for, which is to say, men by and large go for their own range or lower and almost never the top tier women.

To simplify things, a 5/10 guy will date a 5/10 girl or lower, a 5/10 girl will date a 7/10 guy and accept no less. Dating statistics back this up as well.

You are obviously very bitter.

Chad really isn't the asshole who you make him out to be. Chad's a cool guy. He's educated, has a job, is funny, looks after himself, etc.

You failed at these basic things in your teens and 20s, and that's why you couldn't get girls. So now you're trying to convince yourself that you occupy a moral high ground whilst painting chad to be this monster that he is not.

It's no one's fault but your own if you can't get laid.

>Currently have a rotation of 3 women I sleep with, 2 of whom are very physically attractive. They come by when they need a chat, a glass of wine and/or a couple orgasms.
Kek I do this too, thank you tinder. It does make me feel somewhat empty since some of those girls deserve better than some fuckboyy like us. Then again if it wasn't with me it would be with some other faggot. That's dating in 2017.

>pussy is something you earn
this is why youre a faggot who will never achieve anything in life. stop putting pussy on a pedestal.

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how is natural selection "fair" or "unfair"? i swear if i hear one more thing about that famous "mr. gene pool"...
you stupid fuck, thinking nature has sense and purpose. monogamy and decency sprung up from language not genes. undesirables don't owe you any apology for their existence, deal with it

I'm a 6/7 woman who wants a 4 guy (score by girl friends) but he doesnt like me

>I know that on Sup Forums we mock manlets,
This is Sup Forums, where trolls go to troll trolls, of course we do. This is because a few are sensitive and respond.

We will troll any weakness. At least there are also help threads like this where we also lay out solutions.
Fuck, I think if they are that bothered they can save their money and have a doc break their legs and make them taller. Usually when they find this out they are not that bothered.

Agreed. Pussy is something to chase. It's a game where you start at 0 and try to get at 100. if I just end up kissing/making out honestly that's already enough of a victory. I used to be a bitch who couldn't make a move, now I kiss grills just to see if I could get them. I have become a slut.

>Women want a large variety of things in guys,
If it's not illegal or about aesthetics that she want's from a guy then that "variety" of yours can be either bought with money or compensated by money. Don't tell me you wouldn't bang a dude who would in exchange shower you with jewelry, fancy clothes, big party events, luxury cars and homes, just because he's a slob who farts in public and his breath smells. But it's true that not all man can afford to keep a women and expect her to have a job, in which case she'll either try to move on and get a guy who can keep her, in which case going back to the desperate clean guy will be a plan B or will regret staying with the guy for the rest of her life trying to make up her regrets by nagging the guy to death constantly comparing him to successful men. No thanks.

>and if you're passionate enough about it, that would make some women wet
Then you realize that your boyfriend is wasting time and money on pussies other than yours and you flip out telling him to stop with something he enjoys doing or leave him who doesn't spend his savings on some fleebag care centre.

>Even video games could get you some pussy if you don't just play like a retard, but participate in events and socialize and so on.
This is the only valid reasoning you've listed. I'll level with you and say I have no idea how it works but it does. Rarely but it does. I have witnessed it. I don't know what to think of this.

>Ugly girls do not get to sleep with hot guys,
Ah, I assume you are too young to be familiar with "bar close". Hot dudes will fuck the "pussy of last resort" if it is bar close and they didn't line anything else up that night.
While they do say "you can drink them pretty but you can't drink them thin" I have even fucked fats at bar close because I wasn't fucking anything else that night.
Sure uggos do not get to date hot dudes but they do get to fuck them, if they know how to be at the right place at the right time.

Thinking back over what I've seen irl, this holds out to be true.

Why is this? Why isn't it the other way around?

I'm a virgin. I'm 19. I'm 6'4. I'm thin. Not terrible looking. I must be horrendously autistic to make up for it. Discussing these things on Sup Forums is something of a bad sign on that front.