I need the tech guys,
Sup Forums has proven how worthless they are, unless you are slagging W10 or debating password managers they're not interested.
I got my best advice on Sup Forums last night, Sup Forums is best and it just reinforces why I don't very often explore the other boards!
>the update
So I've had a build on since Oct/Nov last year and the whole job fell through when I decided to fit a cheap chinky dildo psu to a system that could otherwise be classed as a porn star.
I've now thrown some more money at the project and spent almost the entire night trying get it to work. Advances have been made on the enemy position but old winston still isn't smoking his cigar.
Psu is now modular and up for the job in the power industry.
I resisted fitting the new mobo because I'm cheap and wanted to send it back but I've since put a straw in that camels back and I'm quite happy with it. It even has fancy LED's that are gonna look pretty cool once I eventually get that windowed panel on.
>the last 36 hours
I've replaced the offending chink dick which gave me 2 sec of display.
>I've replaced the mobo
>I've been booting on different variations of a single stick of ram and switching guy
I've had her stuck on logo screen for as long as my patience lasted whilst whacking the keyboard.
However this morning I woke up and made 0 changes from the point I zonked out on last night, mashed the f keys and it entered bios..... for all of 3 sec before dying.
Please help me Sup Forums, my fingers are too fat to keep typing out messages on this chuck phone and I've come too far now to replace the parts in my junker and spend another 3 months just scraping by!
I need the tech guys
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Try powering down, unplugging the power cable and holding the power button down while unplugged for 30 seconds.
On the job Bob!
Thanks.
Get everything off of the carpet while you're at it. Static discharge can wreck your shit.
Have you tried restarting your modem?
Result:
The power cable made some strange fizzling noises as it went back in. Logo and I forgot to mash the f keys but it did try to access the Hd for a couple of secs before hitting the ropes. " I got a flashy line in the top left"
I haven't tried conecting the Ethernet cable either, come back in 3 hours and your advice might be useful.
this is going to suck but its best practice to troubleshoot the issue
1 strip out everything except motherboard cpu psu and 1 stick of ram and a known good video card
2 test if it still crashes try another stick of ram
if it still crashes take everything out of the case and set it up on an antistatic surface
if post then you had a short, reassemble being more careful
if no boot then start replacing components until it does post
replace the bad parts
Booting then freezing is over heating. Make sure the liquid is flowing properly.
This is good advice but I think I've past the point of no return on this one. I spent most of last night clutching hold of the vacuum cleaner socket and just got fed up of feeling like a retard. If static is gonna come get me then so be it.
ok, a few thoughts.
a bad PSU could have friend some components. doesn't necessarily sound like that's your problem tho.
also, a single stick of RAM is not ideal. two sticks would give you some room to troubleshoot and see if a bad RAM module or mobo slot might be fucking you up. but again, since you actually POSTed at one point, that doesn't seem like that's the real problem.
If it freezes at or before BIOS that means some kind of hardware conflict/failure. Meaning you probably need to troubleshoot everything, from making sure your CPU and fan is mounted correctly, RAM is clicked in solid, etc. disconnect any nonessentials like video card and see if anything changes.
also maybe recheck your PSU and get one with more power... i wouldn't recommend using anything less that a 500w unless you're building a grandpa's computer.
friend = fried = ded
also, this
Bad ram, mobo short or dead CPU. Most likely dead CPU. I had a cheap Rosewill PSU that came with a case years ago, it killed my Intel P4 the second time I booted it.
Modern CPUs dont freeze when overheating, they shut down completely
It's tried reading HD at one point, I think my cpu is just overheating tbh but I don't know how to test this because the only other cpu I got is intel and I'm trying to run amd.
I need more advice please guys, I've done and redone everything in this thread and all signs are pointing towards my cpu is kill. But it couldn't be.... please say it couldn't BE!
I got a top range AMD coz I wanted the processing power, I can't be arsed to run on an i5 and shitty micro mobo any longer.
are you using a surge protector?
If the PSU took out the original mobo, 50/50 chance it took the CPU with it
This.
If you manage to kill the processor with idk....too much voltage, it will probably kill the motherboard/ram too
Nice council house britfag
Thanks for you valuable input to this thread. Im sure that now he will fix his problem.
Yes
I know and I wasn't exactly kind to it before the chink dick but I never had a display to diagnose until now. Also old mobo was giving me 3 sec of run time too.
Hahaha I live in a cottage bitch!
Your poor quality neutral/earth grounding problems overwhelmed your shit-power-supply's ability to compensate because it had shitty (and too few) capacitors. It subsequently fucked up your northbridge or southbridge or maybe even just your memory controller by exceeding the peak inverse voltage of the power conditioning diodes.
>old mobo was giving me 3 sec of run time too
If you've eliminated everything (remove all components except bare bones - new PSU, new mobo, tested with/without video card, different ram/ram configurations etc) then it's 99% dead CPU.
New mobo and I've been running twin sticks of vengeance with the intel, no problem.
All trouble shooting is pointing towards my bank manger making yet more frowny faces at me. I wanna run on an 8 core though. I'm not a gamer but I do like to stress my system out.
Why do you people say such hurtful things?
I'm gonna curl up into a ball for half an hour and then maybe think about rebuilding the junker.
Que theam song
>here I go again, on my own
Clueless fuck
ok i don't know much about the british feudal system, but have you had an electrician check the voltage of your straw-thatched hut to make sure it is up to modern standards? because bad household wiring or fluctuating voltage could also account for the problems you're having.
I saw the picture and instantly thought the same thing. I built my comouter on concrete just in my boxers.
What cpu cooler you usingand how much thermal past did you use
stress a system unnecessarily and it often decides to stress you back. and 8 cores? most apps can barely make use of 4. i run a dual core cpu and it's handled everything i've thrown at it so far.
and maybe i'm wrong, but you don't sound all too experienced at building computers. throwing money at a build isn't really the answer.... i'd recommend starting with more modest and less finicky components until you get a stable running system, then move up from there.
nice criticism. do you have a specific problem with my post, or are you just suffering from menstrual cramps?
Did you make sure that your mobo supports your ram frequency? Try booting up while spazing on the 'pause/break' key. Freeze at the right moment and you have infinite time to enter bios.
Like I said earlier, it happened to me once so I know that feel. My new $500 Intel P4 with hyperthreading was the newest, coolest thing. It finally arrived and I built the whole thing piece by piece, including a case that included a PSU. Booted it up, things worked great. Updated XP and rebooted, all good. Shut it off, went to bed. Next morning go to play some CS 1.6 and boom, black screen. Runs for like 3 seconds then freezes or shuts off. Days later after hours of work and a new mobo, new PSU, still nothing. I finally figured out the original PSU killed the CPU too. I was heartbroken and Intel refused to RMA the CPU.
Moral of the story; never cheap out on a PSU
Yes the elctritions are constantly parked in our driveway, climbing the pole just to make sure other people are reviving the correct fluctuations of energy.
It's British telecoms that you struggle to get to give a fuck. Our green box is situated the opposite end of the next village. But that's a different problem entirely..... stop interrupting my ball curling!
Too much 1st time round.
I aimed for a pea this time but it looked more like a tadpole.
You're right. I my main trade I use computers but that is about it.
It's a hobby though and I don't want my computer lagging every time I use my virtual box to access PS so I can draw a dick on someone's forehead.
Also I started with a shop build. It wasn't until the chinky dick psu I started to run into problems.
You might just be my new best friend..... I'm gonna try this now!
umm i'll take that as a yes that everything checks out.
the sticky wicket of your problem is that you got the system to POST at least for a few seconds, which kind of rules out actual dead components (completely dead RAM, MOBO, or CPU will not POST, the computer will just hang at a black screen and maybe beep at you).
we can't rule out that something was damaged, however. but you said you got a new motherboard and have tested the RAM, so that really leaves only your CPU or your power supply as the culprit
i'm giving you the benefit of the doubt that you checked to make sure everything should be compatible with each other instead of hack-sawing random things together like a modern Frankenstein's monster. a conflict or incompatibility between any of the above could also be your problem. i can't possibly know without seeing the full specs of your system.
Things such as file compression and video encoding will happily eat up as many cores as you give it. Provided they're properly multi-threaded.
If you don't know what the problem with your post is then it is not with telling you. Clueless fuck.
Happy to provide all the details man.
I'm ashamed to admit this is indeed frankinanons monster in the flesh.
So you've already seen my ram. I also have a original 4gb stick made by some japs called crucial.
You've seen the new corsair 850x psu.
I've got a choice of GPs. The one I'll be using for trouble shooting is GeForce Getx 750 ti, as I know it works.
New mother is Asus 970 pro pic of original.
Pic of new water cooler box to follow but it's also crosair and to date unfunctioning.
Oh, definitely. But how many users require the max level of cores/threads for what they actually need to do, compared to average consumers with some extra cash who think more = better?
if you're a pro who needs it, great. my point is that its not always necessary to commit overkill with a high end CPU (or any other component) for an admittedly average user who will never even utilize its potential.
good luck with your troublesome vagina.
Hey it's been 2 hours have you tried restarting the modem yet?
so do you have any CPU cooler installed at this point? even the original CPU fan? because that's kind of important.
Op here. Why don't you go review it on amazon then dick head?
Just kill yourself you fat faggot
because i WAS the one guy still trying to help you. but if you're confessing yourself to being this combative and ignorant, it seems i'm wasting my time.
Use you eyes mate.
Fuck off, I ain't doing you any favours you fucking prick.
Hang on dude....
sorry I'm understandably rageing a little bit here. Please don't leave me.
I'd help you if you weren't posting racist bullshit in your OP. Think twice next time before you try to be one of the "cool kids" by sounding like a Stormfag.
Is it just the one HDD you are booting from? It sounds like it could be a corrupted one that triggers the power off/reboot. I had one no amount of formatting could get it to work. Works fine in an external cradle though as storage.
You sir, YOU!
How could I have been so retarded? I haven't even been considering the hd's as components and I've got about 7 in there?
Easily done mate. Did it myself. I am sure you know what to do to test another. Good luck OP.
Bye then!
Pretty sure my angle Gabriel isn't you anyway.
understandable but man i'm an american and i do need sleep at some point.
as of right now i can't tell what the real problem is. if i had your system in front of me it would be much easier to figure out. my only recommendation is to take it to whatever British equivalent of Best Buy or some kind of reputable computer shop you have out there and have them look at it. will cost you some crowns but might save you a lot of time and energy in the long run.
good luck with it.
Did you make sure there was enough thermal paste on the CPU? I've had a computer show the exact same issue when I had too little paste on it.
And what's with fags on Sup Forums getting upset by bad manners all of a sudden?
No. I'm just a guy who has been building his own rigs since the early 80s. But I'm sure a guy as charming and polite as you has plenty of people waiting in line to do him a solid and you don't need my help. Have a nice life.
Or if you are near Manchester in the UK let me know and I can have a proper look.
This. Standard ISO testing procedure. Bring device down to minimum configuration. Dance RAM. If your modular PSU has multiple plug in spots, test power on with those too. Could be anything from a cable, to the PSU, to an improperly seated CPU, thermal paste leakage, busted DIMM slot, failed RAM, cracked mobo, mobo shorting to the chassis (via a screw, the CPU heatsink bracket, or being too tightly screwed in), shitty BIOS settings (buffered vs unbuffered RAM support), power plug connection, a bad riser card, a blown capacitor, Test everything. Take a break, check your mobo specs and compatibility and come back to it fresh. This is what I do for a living.
Thanks for the help man.
I've invested too much time, energy and money into it now though.
Also nothing beats that feel good factor when you finally acumplish something.
Stand by for the 1 hd boot my retarded ass needed pointing out directly.
I feel as though I have somehow shamed /b if I was helpful.
I build mine like this just to play it safe.
This. Check your RAM. Ive had bad sticks of ram in 2 builds in a row that i have done. Get someone to let u borrow a couple working sticks.
Godspeed, OP. After reading this far I am now completely invested in your success.
Honestly? Has Sup Forums been hacked or something? What's up with you guys?
I don't get it. Maybe an LSD laboratory exploded and leaked into the water table.
Cheers bro.
1st was a short so I'm letting it cool and gonna boot again as soon as I've told google which part of its picture has some signs in it.
ATTN.. my search engine has been hijacked by Bing. tried things i know, no luck...even if i try to open regular google, then search, it switches to bing... any help?
in return, hot pic
new hd and I've just been asked for some boot media. Then it did a Paul walker.
Plastic click in case on bottom btw
Op here, yes you've just downloaded a disc cleaner/malware searcher haven't you? You need to be in the settings of that or just del it because it's shit anyway.
It's locked your homepage so other apps can't change it.
have you reseated the CPU yet?
And, using a strong magnifying lense, look over the CPU and the socket to be sure there's no metal flakes shorting anything out. I had an Intel board where the first DIMM slot wouldn't work. Brand-new out of the box, it had a piece of metal shorting two of the CPU socket pins.
dunno... will check on that... currently running a system restore on laptop in question
Hey it's been a little over 3 hours now. Have you tried restarting your modem yet?
System restore won't del any of your programs buddy. You gonna have to tackle that one manually. Here's to been in the same boat.
Kek, thanks made me lol before I return to smashing my face off of this computer case.
Just made an observation.
I'm well protected in my fortress of boxes, computer cases and beer cans. Zombies couldn't even get in here. Good luck if the apocalypse is today retards.
I reckon you've cooked it, from what I can tell you've been careless as all fuck managing static as well as live connection, my guess is both the mobo and CPU are fucko'ed
Read the thread.
The mobo is brand new and cooking the cpu has been my diagnosis all along. I just didn't want to believe it because it's the most expensive part.
I really do need to start thinking about rebuilding the junker or I'm not gonna have a weekend left. I just don't wanna admit defeat.
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What's new since the beginning of your thread? What did you troubleshoot?
I don't want a broken arm (burnt out cpu)
We're still at the same point.
I've been asked for boot media so the hd is there put still doing a Paul walker in roughly the same time frame.
I'm still here praying for your success, OP.
Is that it, do I just slot together the junker and drop this pile of shit off at the computer mans shop next week?
It's booting but the fan is just immediately reving it's tits off before RTC
Thanks man but I think I'm just getting too down trodden and oppressed to make any real impact now.
If I throw it at the computer guy hard enough, there's a chance I might be able to leave a small bruise/blemish.