Can EU and Russia become friends?

Can EU and Russia become friends?

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no (((krauts))) have a natural reaction to destroy destroy relationships and try to push people around. Hence why they hate Brits and ruskis

Europe and Russia are natural enemies, there will only be peace between us if one stops existing.

When r*ssians stop acting like a bunch of warmongering rabid dogs.

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>I am a tool of putin and there must be war because my theives tell me europe is making me poor

Care to elaborate please?
As far as I can tell, there are no conflicting geopolitical interests between Russia and EU.
On the contrary, an alliance between the two blocks would mean security for Russia, because their core territory wouldn't be vulnerable to NATO attacks

>I make 10 apples
>putin in chief takes 9 apples
>tells me europe took the 9 apples

EU ruled by its current rulers, no.
EU ruled by National Socialists with 0 kikes, yes.

Ideology is the problem here, Russians like corrupt totalitarian autocratic systems.

There is absolutely 0 way Europe or anything outside your locality is making you poor, which is why in Italy with a union the localities that are the same people have the same wealth and the different people in different locality have a different wealth, a state has nothing to do with your wealth.

but I am sure they are not against working with liberal democratic system, as long as those dont intefere in Russian domestic affairs

>as long as those dont intefere in Russian domestic affairs
The problem is exactly the opposite.

Russia doesn't intefere in our elections because it hates democracy.
They try to push a political party to power that would drop the EU sanctions

The Russian people are a cancer on this Earth. Nuclear annihilation is too merciful for you. Enjoy your AIDS epidemic and poverty.

EU in no fucking way, they ideologically oppose each other and they're the two powers vying for influence in the region.

Only if the EU collapses would there be parties allied to Russia, like in pre WW1 Europe.

Russia routinely interferes in the domestic affairs of its smaller neighbors. For reference, Germany is half the population of Russia. Occasionally, they tend to annex territories from those aforementioned smaller neighbors. See Krim, Transnistria, that region in Georgia.

when u planning on killing yourselves then senpai?

butthurt much?

Where exactly do Russian and EU interests collide

Germany has a much bigger Economy that Russia though, whose economy is around the size of Italy

why cant you all just settle this over a game of Soccer like all the other Eurofags?

Nazi

not me bruh

i like russians, my grandma is a russian, but i fucking hate your disgusting government that should be nuked

Russians play ice hockey not soccer

Its less to do with ideology, and more to do with realpolitik. But yes when you two competing powers, there will always be conflict
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Russian people = good people
Russian state, rulers and power = evil of the world

For example: Ukraine

your alliance with america

correct

tho to be quite fair, my grandma was a bitc that tried stealing my grandpa's house

that really doesn't mean anything any more. it's about as up there as shitlord now.

Economy alone doesn't matter, Russia's military and intelligence agencies can only be rivalled by the US and possibly China.

Russian women are like hurricanes, they come with a lot of blowing, but leave with your house.

I dont really see how exactly EU is interested in Ukraine. EU doesn't plan to take any new members anytime soon, and Ukraine is a poor and corrupt country with nothing to offer

I think this is the only thing preventing Russian-EU cooperation.
Should Trump go rogue and start a trade war with tue EU, Russia and Europe would become much closer over night

Football is a European game, we play hockey.

Yes, it's about powers vying for competition, but if their ideologies were similar there would be more chance for cooperation.

Russia simply cant afford to bribe German officials like it does with the countries in its sphere of influence

>bribery
That leaves threats and seduction.

This kraut is annoying

Russian genocide when?

>Where exactly do Russian and EU interests collide
On the matter of whether or not Russia should exist. We have quite a disagreement here.

isnt hockey just soccer on ice?

Russia is too dependant on the trade with EU to use threats.
Only thing they can do is to fund populist movements, what they do in France or Germany, for exmaple

Give back our gold, Dimitri.

germs are corrupt as fuck, what are you even saying

Why do you think EU doesn't want Russia to exist?

I know this is a shitposting thread but germany is literally the least corrupt relevant country in the entire world.

What makes you think they wont ally Russia?

Wouldn't a unified Europe be more of a threat to American hegemony than Russia and whatever they take?

The EU wants to increase sanctions on Russia

little shvab, learn Russian, talk to Russians, read their newspapers, then talk to me

>Can EU and Russia become friends?
Nope, but hopefully Russia and Europe will at least become decent neighbours.

Europe and Russia can become friends.

The EU and Russia can't.

Also, Germany should really dissolve into city states again, and stop bothering the rest of Europe.

>germany is literally the least corrupt relevant country
their public sector is not corrupt. their private sector is corrupt as fuck. Siemens, VW, those guys dropped the ball big time.

Russia wants to be an empire and wants to have a sphere of influence in Eastern Europe. It's easier to threaten and buy politicians in small countries, it's much harder to push the EU (or NATO) as a whole. That's why it's in Russia's interest to work towards a dissolution of the EU or, more realistically, to weaken the EU with anything they can.

Theoretically the EU and Russia could have normal relations only if Russia (government and people) gives up their ambitions to have satellite states in Europe. Since that's not going to happen, Russia will remain an enemy to Europe.

Russia is just a state, there is no such thing as russian interest.

>read Russian newspapers
Why would one want to read propaganda and lies?

I don't know what is it with you Europeans and your dislike of the fact that we are present on this planet, but we do not exactly have the best experience bordering you.

EU has neither the military capacity nor the political will to attack Russia. That's why Russians are far more worried about the nato troops in Europe rather than an united EU army.
And in theory USA would benefit from keeping Europe divided and weak, but in praxis they need their troops and their influence elsewhere, and since EU is rather friendly to America, they support an unification of EU that can take more responsibility in the region

you need to evolve past the kikes game and stop being a puppet.

EU is highly dependant on Russia for energy too tho. I think Russia would have less to lose from damaging their economy by cutting energy supplies, the EU is made up of vastly different members who would get dissatisfied mich quicker with economic downturn.

But you both NEED to be exterminated.
Silly Nige.

>EU has neither the military capacity nor the political will to attack Russia.
Poles will fight. Ukrainians are fighting.

dogshit fucking post

I think it is not really fair to compare the current Germany to nazis, dont you think?

a weaker and more divided Europe would be more dependant on NATO, thats the opposite of what Russia wants, they want NATO forces out of their front yard

>And in theory USA would benefit from keeping Europe divided and weak,
USA doesn't exist, there is nothing objective here to be strong or weak, my interest is absolutely irrelevant from the states actions and goals, no such thing as state interest in pertaining to you.

In a defensive war, sure. But EU doesn't have the will to attack Russia on its own.

EU is sanctioning Russia, and the sanctions hurt them, yet Russia doesn't stop the gas flow, because the income from selling the gas is simply too important for Russian economy.

Private companies cannot be corrupt. They can misrepresent, lie, commit crimes and be unethical, but by definition they cannot be corrupt since there is no inherent goodwill or trust between the population and them that can be broken or sidestepped with money. Everything they do is already motivated by money after all.

If the state is not National Socialist there is no such thing as your interest tied to the states goals of expansion.

>In a defensive war, sure.
And that is why we have NATO and the EU.

I am not really sure what you mean. USA clearly exists

The better question is what does Putin have to lose. It's not about Russia, because the Russian government and economy is Vladimir Putin and his cadre.

To me lying to your customers means that you're corrupt, fellow mongoloid.

Germany(the country)owns the majority of most of those companies

Nazis didn't exactly come out of nowhere, you know. Their ideas were perfectly in line with the attitude that Europeans had towards Russia since we started interacting with each other. The attitude that never went away.

If there is no national goal that affects each individual equally in its reward then there is no point tying me to the actions and interest of a different group, corporations, banks, rulers etc..

See
Fucking third world shithole dwellers.

I hope you dont believe that modern day Germans still want to invade Russia

>a weaker and more divided Europe would be more dependant on NATO, thats the opposite of what Russia wants, they want NATO forces out of their front yard
I disagree.
We're talking money, not tanks and rockets. A big war is out of the question, with or without strong NATO. Russian interests are to have a weak EU so that they can prey on the little countries in Eastern Europe.

Can you show me it?

EU is a fucking joke since they did nothing to keep Russia from annexing Crimea.

Your opinions and their shareholders are irrelevant.

>Europeans had towards Russia
Destroying communism? That battle was won 25 years ago.

If Europe was divided, each party would have their own interest. Some would court Russia for a better deal if it helps them against their rival, it would defonitely be in Russia's interest.

check your flag

Russia cant prey on NATO member states. WIthout the EU, the baltics would be even more dependant on NATO, and America would always have military bases right in front of Moscow and St. Petersburg

There's nothing more ridiculous than when Russian try to present themselves as victims and pacifists. You're literally the biggest country in the world and (that might surprise you) you did that will lots of offensive wars and killing.

EU wants oil, gas, timber, and other Russian goodies. They don't give a fuck if Putin starts killing people.

All I see here are people, I see myself, I see my interest and I see my neighbors interest, war will not benefit me or any of the people around me, nor does EU or Russia matter to our interests, the peoples interests not rulers and corporations interest.

So that flag does things?
No, a flag is an inanimate object just like a hammer.

Not a lot, in the long term it would serve them better to go through some economic hardships for a while but then reap the benefits from more influence in Europe and possibly cooperation with the US.

>EU is sanctioning Russia, and the sanctions hurt them

Not really, they are recovering right now
Also sanctions mostly hurt indivduals

Yes, America is now complete, it can wall itself off the rest of the world.

When you say "USA's" interest just say the rulers interest, my interest and 99% of the peoples interest is completely separated from the thoughts and actions of the rulers.

Just sit back, relax and wait for Russia to run out of oil and gas.

Regular Germans? Maybe not, although I doubt that it would be too hard to convince them that Blitzkrieg 2.0 is a bad idea, 'Russians are our enemy' is a natural thought to you.

>it's another German thread about the EU

1person=1vote is not working any more. Some sort of karma system must be worked into democracy.

Modern day Germany is extermly peaceful and anti-militaristic. It is hard enough to convice Germans to participate in peace mission.
To convince them to invade Russia would be impossible

>the only way Europe has a future is if it unites
He's right, you know.

>'Russians are our enemy' is a natural thought to [Germans]
Nigger, that is a non-truth, they've been brainwashed for three generations now

Democracy does not exist, the corporations rule, they own all the capital, intellectual life, all the media, the educational system and thus the thoughts of an individual are not sovereign but come from the disproportionate power and influence of the rulers.

In our interactions with Europe we were victims way more often than not.

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