The fact that he's so popular on rym makes me mad.
Jason Sanchez
Are those his groupies?
Parker Watson
Either Carter's groupies or Feldman's unwilling victims
Adam Sanders
Reporting back. Fine concert, except for the fact that there was a tranny sitting in the row in front of me in the Tchaik who spent the whole performance looking at lecture slides on its phone and taking notes, seemingly paying no attention to the music. No clue why you'd pay money to hear a student orchestra (albeit with a p. good professional soloist) play Tchaik just so you can have background music while you study instead of going home and just searching something on youtube and doing the same. Baffling really
Chase Wright
I don't think Christ is dead yet lads. Not until this afternoon.
Posting my favourite non-Bach Passions: youtube.com/watch?v=6-aMCcGXBzo (would post Schutz's other two passions - the opening and closing choruses in the John are probably better, but I prefer the layout of the Luke more - but if you enjoy this one, you'll probably listen to them of your own accord) (and would also post Macmillan's John Passion, but it's not on youtube, so his Seven Last Words will have to do instead) youtube.com/watch?v=et8B79uR2Pk
Isaac Taylor
Ay macmillan.
Zachary Roberts
What are your favorite percussion only pieces?
Colton Mitchell
School credits, maybe? Sounds like a cunt either way.
Jordan Allen
unlikely since the uni in my town doesn't offer music as a "proper" subject. They offer a couple of modules in it where you are required to attend at least three concerts and review them in three different ways (a "blank slate" listening where you just write down your impressions of the piece as they come to you; a "newspaper" quality review; and then one where the music has to be a piece you know well that you then compare to a pre-existing performance to discuss the differences in interpretation.
So yeah overall I couldn't discern a reason. Thankfully it was all clear for the second half of the concert so that was fine.
About to marathon Tristan und Isolde, wish me luck.
Chase Rodriguez
Which record?
Jason Gonzalez
See you in 2020.
Jacob Edwards
I guess this is a better place to ask than anywhere else;
does anyone have any works similar to Peter Hamel's Organum?
thanks
Ryan Perez
youtube.com/watch?v=IdjFBW-S3z0 One I could find with video + subtitles On the prelude, heard that famous chord. Starts a little slow but that's fine and intentional, it's building now.
Isaac Myers
drinking vermouth at 7am listening to Marais
such is life, jesus' tod
Jose Turner
Will he just get to the fucking point already? It's taken 20 minutes just for Isolde to ask Tristan to come to her
Levi Scott
Poor lad.
William Martinez
Getting tired real quick of Isolde's sappy, overblown hissy fits
Sebastian Sullivan
I'd be mad too if saved some dude and then he later kidnapped me and sold me off to his King
Jack Wright
[spoiler]That will be the cause of her death in the end.[/spoiler]
Am I the only one who finds the female soprano voice to be ugly? It doesn't matter who's singing in particular, it always sounds like a screechy cat to me. Contraltos and more especially males are much more beautiful.
Kayden Clark
I actually prefer the bass clef in many ways myself. Classical music's drift into the treble is quite unfortunate. P.S. piccolo players need to die horrible deaths
Aiden Scott
>children talking about opera wow this thread is off to a great start
Sorry if the truth upsets you. Wagner is a typical autistic German who's incapable of real feeling (Mozart was Austrian). T&I is supposed to be some great love story, but they fell in love because of a fucking potion? Sorry, that's total bullshit. Even Shakespeare wouldn't pull something like that out of his ass. Also, Isolde is a spoiled bitch who sounds like a dying cat. Just a typical woman, really.
Jeremiah Gray
I find basically any soprano from the 70s onwards to be typically unbearable. A soprano utilizing minimal vibrato and can actually sustain her notes is fine.
But, yeah, contraltos are easier on the ears overall.
You do know it's adapted from a very, very old legend, yes? One that Shakespeare was possibly inspired by. The basic plot points are more or less the same, you're directing your autistic screeching at the wrong person here.
Jonathan Sullivan
Listen to the end you faggot.
Hudson Bennett
Old doesn't mean it's good - and if Shakespeare was inspired by it he had the good sense to excise the retarded bullshit, but Wagner was clearly too obsessed with "muh Germanic legends" to care.
>dude trust me it gets good after 4 hours
Austin Wilson
the love potion is a metaphor for the fact that none of us are capable of choosing whom we fall in love with and not a plot device but i don't think you really give a shit why are you forcing yourself to listen to something you knew you wouldn't like? that's sad anyway the version you're watching is from the 80s i remember so i doubt they have a capable woman singing the role of isolde
Xavier Butler
You're a faggot with shit taste throwing a hissy fit about women being women. Gtfo.
Nathaniel Baker
>Old doesn't mean it's good Never said that. I was explaining the origin of the text.
>but Wagner was clearly too obsessed with "muh Germanic legends" to care. It's Anglo-Norman.
Christian Russell
Why the fuck would you make that a metaphor? That's just stupid, that's not some deep concept. Just have them fall in love like regular people. It wouldn't even make the opera any longer, all he would need to do is cut about 15 or 20 minutes in the first act of nothing happening (Isolde calls Tristan... he doesn't come... she keeps calling... music plays... nothing happens... she keeps calling...) and he could easily fit it in there.
Wagnerite please go
Anglos and Normans are both Germanic mate.
Alexander Collins
It's more of a metaphor for women being needy and manipulative.
You're an idiot.
Aiden Carter
>Why the fuck would you make that a metaphor The libretto was written 158 years ago. It was a pretty controversial thing at the time. It would've been unacceptable socially for them to fall in love on their own. Wagner was a slave to his audience even when he did have Ludwig II supporting him
Jason Jenkins
>Chooses to listen to Wagner Opera >Complains that its too long
What the fuck did you expect? Its Wagner. Don't listen to his operas if you want something you can digest in a single sitting.
Dylan Ramirez
The motif is oldr than that and as I said before, the love potion is used to symbolise the nature of women and how their wiles are a sort of poison. Neither of you seem to have gotten the story.
Hudson Sullivan
Yeah the story is an old folk legend I know but Wagner wrote the libretto himself and was inspired by his affair with Wesendonck. If you think it's entirely pushing the same story and lesson as the original tale you didn't get the story either.
Evan Davis
Isolde insisting that Tristan drink the potion is a stand in for her flirting and seducing him. Him drinking the potion is a stand in him putting his dick inside her. Sex is power. Now you know.
Adam Ross
The original story is also based in the affairs of others. These things tend to go in circles. The motif is unchanged in Wagner's opera.
Love potion = pussy. Women use pussy as bargaining chip. The rest is romantic sugar coating.
Carson Reyes
>Just have them fall in love like regular people Are you stupid, or something? They fell in love before the love potion was taken.
Brody Cruz
Wow didn't mean to trigger the Germans so much, guess I'll stick with Mozart (aka good opera)
Jose Turner
Not an argument.
Logan Sanders
I'm not even German. But you're an autistic brainlet who fails to identify obvious allegories.
Jaxon Butler
Go ahead. Everyone knows you only watched it because you had an axe to grind and were fishing for (You)s
Samuel Diaz
Yeah that's true. They really use it as an excuse to do what they wanted to but knew they shouldn't all along. Once again tying into his own affair.
Parker Torres
Just because I didn't take 4 hours to say it doesn't mean it's not an argument :)
Oh I get it now, the length of the opera must have been an allegory for Tristan's dick right? They're both long, wow amazing wagner so deep xd
I watched it because German academia and neo-Nazis have been in an eternal circlejerk over Wagner since he dribbled out that schlock, I expected a masterpiece and got fetid tap water
Sebastian Robinson
you're the one that sounds irreparably triggered and butthurt desu
Samuel Sanders
>I watched it because neo-Nazis have been in an eternal circlejerk over Wagner Ah, so you're a triggered leftist. >I expected a masterpiece All those academics happen to be right on this: it is. But you're a pleb.
Grayson Davis
is just really bad bait and shitposting, id just not reply to him at all
he's just saying whatever to get a rise out of people
>Wagner sucks because I can't understand allegory I want /eftypol/ to get the fuck out. At the very least, I want you to come up with better reasons for dissing Wagner than not getting that drinking the love potion = having sex.
Luis Powell
I think people see themselves in the plot of Tristan und Isolde honestly. It says a lot about a person what they consider the lesson of the story to be. Which is really a testament to it's brilliance in my opinion.
Cooper Hall
Wagner makes me sleep and indeed all post-classical opera do.
Ethan Campbell
Baroque-kun, your brain ain't right my friend. A laser sharp focused on a single period of music? Must be the 'tisms. Did you take that autism quiz? What'd you get?
Hunter Russell
Yeah, but that's ok. You're a faggot but you're our faggot, faggot.
Cooper Nelson
That stabat mater is a favorite of mine but the academy of ancient music performance is the best with emma kirkby.
Matthew Perez
Heh, nothing personnel, kiddo. Reminder that A. Scarlatti's Stabat Mater > Vivaldi's Stabat Mater > literally anyone else's Stabat Mater > shit > Pergolesi's Stabat Mater
Charles Phillips
you're so fucking boring jfc
someone bring ame back
Colton Rogers
i really doubt that guy was being genuine, he was autistically screeching from the beginning and probably planned to do so for attention-whoring. his nonsensical post regarding the plot and the overuse of exaggerated green text just makes me think he was trying to get a rise out of you guys.
i would say "just report and ignore" next time, but Sup Forums doesnt have mods
Camden Diaz
Fuck off, Ame.
Luke Garcia
It seems like he only got a rise out of himself though. He must not understand the clientele he's working with here.
Owen Clark
Who the fuck are you? Don't fucking talk to me.
Jordan Harris
>drinking the love potion = having sex But it clearly doesn't, because they never consummate their love, they almost do in Act 2 but they get interrupted. They never consummate while they're still alive, you fucking dunce.
>someone doesn't like my god wagner, heretic! You must be faking it!
Aaron Ortiz
Also, Wagner sucks because he's overlong and boring.
John Gutierrez
the irony of most shitposting tirades is that it often requires the poster to get as emotionally involved as he did. then they project that anger onto everyone else.
it's funny to watch, but honestly not really worth replying to.
Jaxon Flores
How the fuck would you know? You only watched one act. (You're wrong anyway.)
Levi Baker
>I have no argument so I better just run away like a bitch
>I know more than someone about an opera I didn't even finish watching lmaoing @ your life right now bub
