Rank these mistakes

Rank these mistakes

1. >Mouyes
2. Pogba
3. Zlatan

1. Zlatan
2. Mou
3. pogba

1. Pogba
2. Mouyes
3. Zlatan

I mean at least Zlatan was free

1. >Mouyes
2. Pogba
3. Zlatan

Zlatan had a great start and manure got him FOR FREE

Pognogger cost them 1 billion yen pound sterling and so far had (0) ZERO impact. Hes also the 7th worst passer in the eplel

>mouyes

Objectively correct

3. Zlatan (free, scored some goals, wages lower than Rppney, good professional, neither Martial nor Trashford are better than him right now)

2. le social media savvy Djemba-Djemba (actually is a very good player, it's just that he's being used completely wrong and surrounded by idiots.It's also not his fault he wa massively overpriced and overvalued)

1.
>Mouyes

1. at very worst the third best manager in the game right now
2. huge talent with dabs to sell fucktons of shirts and other shit
3. experienced striker who brings winner mentality and will sell tons of shirts too, on a free transfer

Where are the mistakes again?

1. Obviously washed up, outdated tactics, bad at youth development, notorious for bad relationships with players and media
2. Biggest flop of all times
3. Relying on 35 year old with no motivation left as your primary source of goal is a risk to say the least. Least horrible option of the three options though.

Pogba has to top the lot, solely for the reason they could have got three elite midfielders for the same price. Instead they bought marketing tool anyone who watched Serie A from time to time knew would underperform severely.

>1. Obviously washed up, outdated tactics
Won the league and cup one season ago. Can't be that outdated.

>bad at youth development
It's funny that this one still comes up. Remember how people said he would bench Memeford? Mourinho always gave good players a chance, obviously not very many but that comes with the expectations he got while managing the biggest clubs. People who are worth it, use their chance. He also starts Lingard instead of Micky.

>notorious for bad relationships with players
Every time a player talked about him, they said he was a great influence on their carrier. The entire Porto, Chelsea MK1 and Inter squad was on his dick. He only had problems with people who saw themselves bigger than the club like Iker and where did Casillas end now? He got dropped after Jose left and fucked up Spains WC later.

>media
Pep is the only manager that gets similar amount of attention. The media fucking loves him.

>2. Biggest flop of all times
>after 10 games
Tell me more about your prophetic powers.

>3. Relying on 35 year old with no motivation left as your primary source of goal is a risk to say the least.
If he had no motivation, he'd go to China, Murica or middle east. Although it's risky indeed.

well put, Mr German señor

I declare this thread to be over, finished, terminado, finito, chewpalace

This, I love how the "Mourinho has bad relationships with his players" meme still carries any weight when the only real example is Casillas' tantrum. His players pretty much all speak highly of him. Hell, Khedira described himself as a "disciple of Mourinho" like a year after he left.

/thread

>won the league a one season ago
With a strong Chelsea squad, in a league that was subsequently won by Leicester. Tells you more about competition than his managerial capabilities. He forces the same tactic and playstyle he used in Inter, don't you think football has developed quite a bit since then?
>bench Memeford
Current Manure youth is the work of Van Laal, none of these players will improve a bit while >mouyes is in charge. The entirety of his career after Porto he has relied on experienced players to carry his teams, preferably superstars. Helping teenager to reach his potential isn't just throwing him on the pitch and see what happens.
>great influence on their carrier
The civil war in Madrid locker room aside, Chelsea (his previous spell) is still recovering after the damage he caused.
>prophetic powers
You'd expect a big purchase to perform better, to put it mildly. Or at least contribute more than midfielders worth 5 mil, or even free transfers in other clubs, including the bottom of the table. Pogba apologists are in denial about how he played so far - he's tragic.
>Ibra would go to China
He's too much of an attention whoring narcissist to retire there. When formerly prestigious club like Manure come with an offer comparable to what sheikhs or chinks can give, why not live out your footballing days with a fat paycheck there? He doesn't give half a fuck about the club, it's obvious

Zlatan certainly 3rd. Pogba has more downside potential than you but he also still had resale value as a stop loss.

>Leicester.
Who discovered the modern tactic of counter football + hoofing the ball to their fast striker. Innovative as fuck.

>don't you think football has developed quite a bit since then?
Atletico is doing just fine with similar tactics. Besides, Jose being defensive is another dumb meme. Sure, he doesn't risk too much in big games but he still broke scoring and point records. How many trophies did Klopps and Pochs "running around like headless chicken" style win again? Only few teams can effectively play total football, as Pep is painfully learning with City now.

>Current Manure youth is the work of Van Laal
Who only played them because of of injuries. Jose tends to have fewer issues with injuries, hence fewer opportunities to play the youth. What other manager of a top team promoted many more young players?

>Helping teenager to reach his potential isn't just throwing him on the pitch and see what happens.
That's how you find the players who got it and not mediocre dross that will end up in a team fighting relegation. It's telling that he promoted most players when at Madrid, who clearly had a better youth system than other clubs he managed. How many chances did Loftus-Cheek got with Conte for example?

>Chelsea (his previous spell) is still recovering after the damage he caused.
They had issues with player power before. Not a single Chelsea player had the balls to come out and complain about Jose so far.

>You'd expect a big purchase to perform better, to put it mildly.
Sure. Nobody is saying he set the world on fire yet but not enough time passed to call him a flop without sounding idiotic.

>He doesn't give half a fuck about the club, it's obvious
Most players don't and it's not even a Manure centric problem. Zlatan is doing a shift in the big games, had a great start, was a free transfer, so will probably bring in more money than his wages costs and is one of the few players in the squad who know what winning is.

>What other manager of a top team promoted many more young players?
This has to be a joke

He is a retarded turk, don't mind him

The key was "top team". It's obvious that some mid table side that gets looted every season like Southampton or serial bottles like Arsenil will try to push more youth forward; but their result shows that it's not an option for top clubs. Fergie is a special case given the amount of time he had.

How many youth players did Pep or Ancelloti promote?

>Leicester
Literally what Serie A underdogs have been doing for years against big teams. Ranieri exposed EPL managers as unable to adapt for a while, but the gimmick has quickly faded out.
>Atletico
The only things they have in common with >mouyes is emphasis on defence, nothing else. They play interchangable 4-4-2 with unpredictable attacking phase. >mouyes' 4-2-3-1 with next to no movement fluidity or creativity has been dead for years.
>Klopps and Pochs
When exactly did they manage clubs with such budgets as >mouyes? Both are better than him, and actually capable at working with young players. The CL final reaching and Bundes winning Borussia squad was single–handedly assembled by Klopp, almost all players there were bought cheap. Similiar how Poch works.
>he promoted most players when at Madrid
Who exactly? He was fielding big purchases 95% of the time. Lets see how many new players from Manure's U21 he picks up during his probably short tenure tenure. Rashford was molded into starter of questionable quality by Van Laal, he's not a >mouyes' discovery.
>They had issues with player power before
Is that why they didn't have any problems in their title winning campaign, but looked disinterested and borderline suicidal on pitch after >mouyes went on ego power trip when the season started to crumble?
>not enough time passed to call him a flop
When you want a youngster who might come good eventually, you buy 17-18 year old kid form League 2 for 2.5 million and give him time playing in reserves. Ironically enough, that's exactly the level Pogba is showing now. Calling him "future prospect" is nothing but damage control. Splashing such cash is obviously attempt at getting a world class player, and Pogba is everything but that.
>Most players don't
Most players aren't all smiles after being humiliated 4:0 either. Customers on social media were quite mad at Ibra for rhat, and who can blame them.

This, except in reality it should be:

1. Pogba
...
100. Mouyes
101. Zlatan

Mourinho wasn't a stupid decision in theory, and the Zlatan transfer was free.

Pogba is on a completely different level of stupid.

>ranking a chimpanzee

>Pogba is on a completely different level of stupid
H-he'll come good eventually

wow just look at this incredibly autistic argument ITT

get a room mongs

Paul, please.

I'm out don't worry
>pogba

>mouyes' 4-2-3-1
That's not the only system he's playing.

>creativity has been dead for years.
Chelsea scored fucktons of goals before they got raped by Spurs. The squad was too shit to play expansive football with; as Conte shows too.

>When exactly did they manage clubs with such budgets as >mouyes?
If their new tactics were as successful as you say, surely big clubs would be interested, no? Did Real, Barca or PSG came calling for Klopp after he was done with Dortmund?

>The CL final reaching and Bundes winning Borussia squad was single–handedly assembled by Klopp
It was pretty good indeed but a one in a lifetime thing, like Lester. Actually winning the treble with Porto is a bigger deal.

>and actually capable at working with young players.
Working in a very literal sense. If they aren't winning shit, their efforts don't mean shit.

>Who exactly?
Jesé, Morata, Nacho and Cheryshev as the most famous example who still play on a high level. Also while not exactly promoting Varane, he did give him a lot game time. Just like with Zouma for Chelsea or Bailly now. Not exactly youth products but still very young players who got a lot trust from him, because they deserve it.

>Is that why they didn't have any problems in their title winning campaign
Due all the winning? If everything goes your way, you suppress the drama. We still don't even know what exactly happened. Let's see where they end up this season.

>Ironically enough, that's exactly the level Pogba is showing now.
18 year old kid from League 2 for 2.5 mil doesn't have the winning experience and commercial presence of Pogba. He won everything there was to win as starter in Italy, was in CL and Euro final. If he were as shit, he wouldn't be there.

>Most players aren't all smiles after being humiliated 4:0 either.
Who cares whether they smile or cry. Losing 4:0 is unacceptable, whether they start banging opposite players on the field afterwards or writing suicide notes doesn't matter.

>If their new tactics were as successful as you say, surely big clubs would be interested, no? Did Real, Barca or PSG came calling for Klopp after he was done with Dortmund?

why would they have at the time? Bayern were still enjoying Guardiola, Madrid had just hired Benitez and he was supposedly their third choice behind Low and Klopp and PSG had Blanc, desu it seemed like all of these teams were trying to wait out and get Guardiola but by the time City secured him Klopp was gone and I dont see Poch leaving Spurs for a long time either, hes building something and its all going to plan so far

So Barca picked two couches with shit records and Madrid/PSG couldn't wait/convince a better couch to join them for a crazy paycheck? Sounds legit.

LE CHIMP DEFENDING ATTRIBUTES

Why would Barca end their contract with Enrique early when he's doing just fine?


>Madrid/PSG couldn't wait/convince a better couch to join them for a crazy paycheck?

Probably, Madrid was a sinking ship filled with problems and PSG doesn't have half the pull the edia thinks it has, City had no real issues, enough money to compete with both clubs and a league considered more prestigious by the media

I think they are all fine. I'd say...

>3. Selling Beckham.
>2. Buying Veron.
>1. Taking that one plane flight.

Why would they even pick Tata? Couldn't they convince a top coach like Poch or Klopp? Why would they go for Enrique (who had a mediocre CV) in the first place and not a top coach like Poch or Klopp?

>PSG doesn't have half the pull the edia thinks it has
How comes? Sure, the league isn't very prestigious but guaranteed CL, great budget and sick pay. They went for a proven winner after Blanc.

LMAO

>120 Million for this

>B-but Zlatan was free

That doesn't make signing him any less of a mistake. In summer United needed a 20-30 goals a season striker and would only sign one. For a club like United where money isn't an issue they easily could have dropped £50mill on an actual world class striker like Harry Kane. It was a tactical decision to sign Zlatan and not just one where they went "lel he's free so why not?" and they royally fucked it up.

Zlatan will get 10 goals this season MAX, Rooney is dead and Martial and Rashford don't get a chance upfront anymore.

you think zlatan will only score 4 more goals from now on? ur weird

>actual world class striker like Harry Kane
>this flag
Not sure if great joke or great delusion.

Poch wasnt praised as highly in 2014 and Klopp wasn't leaving Dortmund for anywhere at that point

PSG have a reputation for choking in the champions league and why choose money or prestigious league when you can have both at city?

What a finish.