How retarded is it when you meet a soldier...

How retarded is it when you meet a soldier, or have one in your family that thinks the world owes them everything because they chose to go kill because another person told them to?

lol i hate those people

uppity welfare queens

i worked at a place that offered discounts to ACTIVE DUTY soldiers and you get all these people bitching about how they served 20 years ago and they should get the discount

not sure user, I live in a society where we dont raise military service above all other virtues and worship war

here it's just a job.

Howzabout you be civil about yer disagreement? I'm a pacifist motherfucker who hates the military as much as you do, but I'm not going to disrespect the poor mislead cunt who thinks he's doing the right thing by risking his fool like. I may talk to him about my views, but I'm not going to diss him for his poor life choices.

it is a job that lots of poor dudes get into and get their head's blow off hundreds of miles away from home so that you have the right to be a when bitch. It puts food on the table and is just as good as any job besides yours as you most likely can't hold one.

My cousin went to Afghanistan to work as a military paramedic after a stint in Kosovo.
After Kosovo, he was all "It's my duty as a soldier to serve my country yadayadayada".
After spending time scraping his fellow soldiers off of various surfaces in Afghanistan he changed his tune.
We had tried to warn him before he went, after he came home, he was honest enough to let us know we were right to warn him. Luckily he didn't get too fucked up by it.

first op is a massive faggot second you just like everyone on /b is a fat sub-human degenerate with out two brain cells to rub together. Seriously a Cro-Magnon could make better bait.

Yeah, I hate when they get all high and mighty about it, but I feel more inclined to give them a bit of leeway because they risked death for their country.

I did two years in the National Guard and never bring it up because I had no idea what I wanted to do with my life at the time.

Yeah I'm sure being in Iraq early in the war like the first year was shitty and Fallujah was apparently a shit storm but these guys act like they were in WW1/WW2 sometimes. Most of the time is spent standing around doing nothing and waiting for somebody to tell you want to do only to have them tell you to do something else and then never end up doing anything.

my worst experiences with a vet was when they can't cope with civilian life and try to impose the same expectations on everything and everybody as they are used to in the military. this doesn't apply to all vets.

You faggots will argue about anything

But he's still right.

And you'll come in to act superior about anything, puts us on an equal footing huh?

In my experience, 95% of them are humble people, and you wouldn't know they served unless you ask them. The remaining 5% are the most loud and obnoxious, ruining the reputation of the rest of us.

its pretty retarded, but not as retarded as someone who hasn't done anything with their life making a post about it on Sup Forums

On what grounds are you making the assertion that an anonymous person on an image board is incapable of holding a job, other than the fact that his opinion of people in the military differ from yours? You sound like a complete moron.

Im US Army Infantry, and it was just a job..

I had to do mandatory military service when I turned 18.

If I knew anyone from a country like the US that doesn't have mandatory service and one VOLUNTARILY enlists so that I wouldn't have to, I'd outwardly show them gratitude. i'd say they deserve the utmost respect.

But whatever.

You Israeli?

>served 3 years in army
>shot in leg, lost significant amount of my right tibia
>walk with slight limp, got moved in IRR early(not even discharged due to shitty military doctors saying I was supposed to heal)
>never fully recovered missing parts of bone, pain everyday, nasty scars on my leg from surgery and another from removing the bullet that shifted pretty into the top of my leg
>I rarely tell people about my service, people at work forget I was ever in the service, when people see the car I say it was a skateboarding accident when I was little.
>Never put it on resume, had a hard time finding work once I got licensed i my current profession due to being 23 and having no experience
>Have to deal with grief I didn't get to finish my service, that I never really saw a lot of the friends I made in that since the injury, have to live everyday with pain while working in a profession that is partial intensive.
>oh yeah and I have a small scar on my right eye from hitting the pavement from the impact, my skin tone hides it well thankfully.

But please tell me about how I feel entitled to anything. Please tell me how I'm not owned something but someone who stayed over here and worked for 3 years in my profession deserves more than I do.

>worship war
Simmer down shit dick, we just honor those who decided to fight. Its something we call common decency look it up.

you chose to join the army. go be a welfare queen somewhere else and quit your bitching and whining.

why don't you try learning an actual skill that can be profitable and earn you a career in the modern day job market?

goddam, a bunch of bitches i swear

and still you tell people you serve with no one asking you

>humble

A lot do it as a joke, myself included. I just got into it cus im gonna get into contracting after. Also i wanted to know what jumping outta planes was like in the military. Aka suck my dick faggot- im airborne an better than u. Now post fap material (ragnar tabs welcome)

I'm licensed and work in a profession
But it's very hit or miss on finding the right job in my region. Unable to relocate due to house + kid.
I basically make $9.50 and have gotten turned down for a 50k job that upgrades to 85k after 5 years because of lack of experience.
Forced to go back to school and get a higher level of license and bachelors in my field. Meanwhile a 19 year old I went to school with got the job because his dad retired from there.
American Dream my man.

Projecting this hard
>little brother comes home
>scratch my greasy neckbeard as the family welcomes him home
>"heh i just killed a raid in wow and this is thanks i get?"
>"fucking american trash"
>"i identify as japanese"
>crawl up to bedroom and start ESO
>bitch mom walks up
>"i think its time you get a job user, look at your brother, hes so happy and has a great career even out of the military"
>trump supporter whore
>fucking facists
>post on b about my imaginary perception of entitlement

this

found the jealous coward

Did they tell you you'd be invincible when you signed up? Did you believe them?

Your problem isn't what you're owed or not owed. Your problem is that you're stupid, and a whiny bitch.

Finish what the sand niggers failed and kill yourself.

the self hatred in this post because when others chose to serve he hid like a coward

that bites. gotta love nepotism, right?

keep your head up man. finish up with school and you'll be in this rat race along with the rest of us. cheers

what did you expect to happen?

>ill enlist and serve for 3 years so that i can come out and get a 100k+ job straight away

you literally have no skills and deserve what you get cunt

you say pacifist, I say coward

military service is no different than becoming a police officer or a fireman or an emt or a cashier at 7-11, you applied for the job and you were hired. the only impressive thing these people did was find work in this fucked up economy. congratulations.

Last guy I thanked for his service was a former US Army tanker. He gave two thumbs up. "Thanks for my GI Bill!"

It wasn't JUST a job, and I'm not saying that because of the potential for danger and combat. Most jobs, you work a shift, then you leave. For your entire enlistment or commission, you are a piece of gear that can be used wherever, whenever, and at a moment's notice. What I'm trying to say is, it's a shitty job.

>y-y-you're a coward for not making a major life choice and risking your life for something you may or may not even believe in.

fuck this mentality to hell. this is the reason meaningless wars start in the first place. its all just a dick measuring contest.

how about you keep to your fucking self and let people do what they wanna do, k faggot?

you say bravery i say halfwit

not really you're still a coward

the way you're so defensive I'd say he got it right

How am I a coward?

any time someone says welfare queen - it's code for they're a coward

This is pretty detailed. It sounds like this may be you.

it's an anonymous board dumbass he's not bragging to anyone

It does, I picked a very specific profession where some people make a fair salary and some get screwed and see it as a transitional job to something greater. That's the plan but it really does suck how little service means in this country. I did sacrifice for this country, regardless if you agree with what was done overthere(i for sure do not), it's no different than what humans have done for their countries for 1000s of years. I wasn't asking for a handout just a hand....

I must have hit a nerve with this coward

whatever lets you sleep at night, coward

I have two licenses that are needed to enter my profession, obtained them in 1 year with use of credits earned in military.
It's essentially a 2 year education but plenty of people find good careers with it.

honestly, fucking excellent point. Why can't some people get that.

look here nigger wannabe

just because someone didnt know what to do with their life...so they joined the military and got free education and tons of perks and signing bonuses and shit

does not mean they can spend the rest of their life milking it to get free shit...or win arguments.. or get sympathy

Most grunts I know are really shitty stupid terrible people, specialists or higher-ups are usually alright tho.

no ones telling you to do something, you're just overthinking it

people like you that live in a fantasy world make me cringe hahaha, you think you can go your whole life doing things "you want to do" instead of gutting up and doing things you may not like to do for the good.

Not only retarded, but I have disdain for pleb tier military people.

Not only do most feel superior to most "civilians" after they went and ran around in the desert while being humiliated by their bosses, but theres something else that pisses me off.

If so many people didn't sign up to go to war in the most recent middleastern oil security drill, they would've had to enact the draft. If they had to do that, no war would've happened. We would be trillions less in debt and probably could've given many more subsides to reduce the toll the recession had on business here. Remember 2009? The shittiest year our generation will probably ever experience?

Congress never would have allowed "war on wmds" if they didn't have the active soldier force.

So, fuck you military people. It's great n all you served your country, but there was no threat to our country as a whole. It's literally the whole hard on Americans have for war that put us in that shit situation to begin with. So eager to go die? Fucking losers. Most are kids who are trying to avoid jail time and get sent to boot camp while the rest are college dropouts, high school dropouts, and morons that have nothing left, so they join the military.

A bunch of actual retards with the holier than thou attitude because they were dumb enough to "risk" themselves for our country. They have it in their minds that they faught, so the rest of the "civilians" didn't have to. They fought to protect you user. They're better and deserve free dining privs.

So what you're saying is...

You signed up for a dangerous job. Got injured in a way that was very likely to happen in this job... and now have to live with the choices you made.

You see the difference in the way people treat you when you mention it was a military injury vs a skateboard injury?

Nobody gives a fuck about your skateboard injury because you made the choice and did it to yourself.

In the same way i dont give a shit about your bullet wound. You signed up for a dangerous job and were met with the possible consequences.

This is why i dont think there should be any special deals or sales, hollidays, privilages or anything for vets. ITS JUST A FUCKING JOB.

Nobody would think i'm special if i was injured in an electrical accident, there's no holidays for pilots and airways. And yet at all these places are ways people protect this country.

The military rat life that most vets are from is simply the minimum wage gas station job of the government.

If you were someone that did more than march and shoot, maybe i can appreciate your acheivements.

If you're just a fucking jack boot that was looking for pay or college money, you are nothing special, and do not automatically earn my respect.

That's my opinion of the military service.

>Please tell me how I'm not owned something but someone who stayed over here and worked for 3 years in my profession deserves more than I do.

The problem with people who went to Iraq, whether it was recently or Gulf War, is you signed up. Wasn't a draft. You weren't defending anyone or anything, but rich peoples wealth. You went and shot shot in the leg for George Bush. Enron. You helped Enron. We civilians hate you for that.

If there was a draft, like in WW2 and there was a legitimate threat to our country, then maybe things would be different.

I think old people look at "wars" like we have now in these generations and compare them identically to ww2 because their parents and grandparents faught and sacrifices a great deal more, because they were forced to go.

The wars you fight in make Al the difference. You chose to go. You didn't have to, you deserve nothing more in any sense.

You and everyone else that wasn't forced to join up probably went for the money, which you got, so Stfu.

America definitely glorifies war you fucking inbred

What ever you say, halfwit

>You weren't defending anyone or anything, but rich peoples wealth

I see people say this all the time. It's easy to see this in retrospect when we look back at a glance at the wins and losses from the war. However, how is a common grunt supposed to know this? As far as a lot of the soldiers are concerned, they think it's for freedom and propaganda does a good job convincing people that it's the truth.

When people say "you volunteered and it's a war for rich people not freedom" isn't really fair.

>be civil
>not going to diss him
Then why are you here?

Don't care about Liberals in this country, I want to kill them.

I got to see what kind of savage animals this world houses, the muslims and their primitive ways. And you liberals wish to utilize them as a weapon to kill off the whites in Europe and the USA.

I'm in college now after 8 fucking years of getting treated like shit.

But I'm living good now, I would have killed every single mother fucker in Iraq to get where I am now without batting a fucking eye.

Thats the difference between people like us and people like you, we will fight to the death to achieve what we set out for. While you sit on your ass and cry for a fucking handout.

If you ask me, Liberalism is the ONLY enemy this country faces. I would have no issue whatsoever killing every fucking one of you in the USA and Europe.

>However, how is a common grunt supposed to know this? As far as a lot of the soldiers are concerned, they think it's for freedom and propaganda does a good job convincing people that it's the truth.
You're goddamned right. Maybe getting this all out now will help people in the future. America holds this high standard for military. You're right, so right, on the propaganda. Maybe we need to speak truths to our friends and families and not let this shit happen again.

Vets need to hear these hard truths so they don't let the same thing happen to their children.

In our 200 years as a country, we've never went to war on the sole principle to advance a few families wealth (like Iraq). It's shit. The whole thing is shit.

e d g y

Your friends all die in the dirt scared and far away from home for profit. You are the invaders.

Your own government killed those people in New York in 2001 and 16 years later you're still crying about it and using it to justify killing children.

>killing
>I'd kill everyone
>liberals
>2nd amendment

yeah i hate my job... they give me free ammo all the fucking time... one time i cut a tree in half with bullets. then i cried cause i voted for hillary and that tree could've married a lesbian refugee one day.. and fuck they keep promoting me. god its bullshit.. i miss moms basement.

>i want to kill them
>w-why would anyone want to take my guns? i just don't get it!

>cut a tree in half with bullets on taxpayer dime
>Obammer put us in debt!

Looking forward to ladling out your soup in a few years when you're crippled on the streets begging for change to drink yourself to death bud.

take away all guns

lets revolt against the goverment!


oh wait my dildo doesn't do much damage. ....

You need to shift a little more to the center. Turn off the news for a while.

... show me your face when i admit i voted for obama lol
i'm already out of active and transitioned to the guard. i'm making quite a nice living with my civilian job.

try harder youngin

Sure, let's be generous and say 25 million revolt and we give each one an AR and as much ammo as they can carry. We'll even give 30,000 of them MRAPs with Vulcans mounted on them. Drones, tanks, local forces. It's quelled within a few months and an authoritarian system is set in place so nobody tries again.

completely agree actually.
i hate those fat fucks that 1 never served, 2 are fat as fuck and cant read. .. but are all OBAMA CANT TAKE MUH GUNS I'M A THREEPER! bitch hoard all the guns you want, a JDAM will take out your whole trailer park and then some.

8 years of school and still dumb as fuck. Head injury?
What a waste of education.

Oh no...it's retarded. Fetch me musket, I'm gonna put it out of it's misery.

good .. good .. you only own a musket.. because the 2A was only written for those lol

I did 9 years service and never mention a word of it to anyone

I don't identify with people who employ their service either for perceived good ends or bad ones, it's simply stupid to do so

Call me an old fart, I am 64. I did not choose but was drafted and ended up in Vietnam twice. I saw a lot of shit and killed a lot of gooks. Nobody owes me shit except for your fucking freedom to act like assholes.

So go fuck yourselves cowards.

Yeah? and who do you cry too, begging for help, when people have guns pointed at you?

More than 80% of military don't do anything combat related. It's just a shitty job.

Impressive, very nice

spends the next five hour loading the coo-magnon of firearms

kike fuck

Soldiers are scum puppets and dregs of society used only for their meat.

Pfft!!, Marine is just a soldier with a worse attitude.

met a vietnam ranger the other day
do us all a favor and tell your story more

not being a liberal asshole like who this posts is filled with. i'm serious

You are aware there are countries other than Israel that legally require you to do mandatory service at 18 right? Fucking retard.

Country's with forced military service.

3.1 Armenia
3.2 Austria
3.3 Belarus
3.4 Azerbaijan
3.5 Bermuda
3.6 Brazil
3.7 Myanmar (Burma)
3.8 Cyprus
3.9 Denmark
3.10 Egypt
3.11 Finland
3.12 Greece
3.12.1 Conscientious objection to military service in Greece
3.13 Iran
3.14 Israel
3.15 North Korea
3.16 South Korea
3.16.1 Compensation
3.17 Mexico
3.18 Norway
3.19 Russia
3.20 Singapore
3.21 Switzerland
3.22 Republic of China (ROC)
3.23 Thailand
3.24 Turkey
3.25 Ukraine
3.26 United Arab Emirates

>can't hold a job
The only job soldiers can hold down is being a soldier and thats only because if they run its desertion. Fucking camo-niggers.

if you think there aren't jobs in the military that aren't skilled, you must be one dumb motherfucker. Go ask an average person to fly an apache without ANY training. See how far they get.

More than 80% are non combat in military. Shitty job good benefits. If you aint SF or Ranger or SEAL or some shit like that don't glorify yourself.

Yeah get a Help desk job they have no world skills or real technical skill, Requirements 3rd grade reading level

You're all idiots

Be me, 23 in the Army, Afganistan, transportation specialist (I drove a truck), was drunk, made our own hootch, drove truck off a roadway, down a small ravine, stuff I was carrying caught fire and exploded, got burned, lost arm at mid forearm, leg below the knee and an eye, 1st Lt is scared shitless, knew I was hammered, does investigation, decided it was an IED, get medals, retire, goodies all around, hero's welcome back home, town built me a house, furnished, new truck, get a job as a 911 dispatcher, girl I never had a chance with from school starts visiting, 2 years on we are married with a kid, life is great, free and discounts all around, big hero, big liar, big fraud, fucking drunken looser, will I ever admit it, just did, can I live with myself, yep, starting to believe the lie myself, grand marshal again in the 4 of July parade this year, gonna talk to the kids about sacrifices for freedom, hardest part is 2 guys died in the rollover and fire, their folks treat me like a new son, to replace the one's gone, godfather to one guys kid born after his death, wife named him after me, only visited their graves once, buried next to each other in a national cemetery, only time I regret my life, hope I live a long time, I know what's waiting for me and I am afraid, but for now life is good, really good.

almost as annoying as the people that think we don't need soldiers.

There r skilled jobs but don't need glorify them too much. Do you glorify all the airline pilots?

retired disable Chairforce AMMO troop; AMA
I prolly won't answser

I worked in customer service while in college and people would ask for military discounts all the time and get fucking bent when they found out we didn't have any.

Personally every person I know who joined the military performed very poorly in highschool and would be considered a notch above special education. The ones I am connected to on Facebook either became cops, or derelicts after the military.

Special forces be like
>hurr durr the prez sez to go in
>one of his countrymen gets killd
>also kills 8yo american citizen
>hurr durr we protect 'murica

>hurrdurr they signed up for it.
Yeah because these people sign up for pulling 2 year olds bodies out of shallow graves and swimming pools. Everybody in the military signed up for years of abuse and have their body broken down faster than they could ever imagine. Fuck you cockstain

This is me bursting your little special snowflake military bubble.
>your no more honorable than someone who lost the use of their leg in a construction accident building homes so we don't have to live in the gutter.
> No more noble than someone who got injured working in a factory to produce the goods that we enjoy.
> No more noble than a miner that got injured diving deep beneath the earth to extract minerals for use in the making of tools, appliances and vehicles.
> Finally you're no more noble than any farmer who's lost a finger to agricultural equipment so that every man woman and child has food on the table.
Your sacrifice was so the first world could maintain dominance over the 3rd world. That in mind the previously mentioned are not only as noble as you, they're more so.

sounds like yo need a better job

A fuckin' plus