Why do Americans hate the NHS so much? I just don't understand what there is to object about free healthcare

Why do Americans hate the NHS so much? I just don't understand what there is to object about free healthcare.

propaganda, and bad education.

combined with a pathological fear of Commie nazi socialist freedom-hating russian NHS agents.

though I expect the nazi bit is OK nowadays.

Free healthcare = liberalism = Anti-American, Anti-White, anti-Christian.

There is no such thing as free healthcare. Someone has to pay for it unless you convince doctors to work for free. High tax rates, doctor shortages, and long waiting periods to see them are all consequences of socialized medicine. Ever wonder why rich people from other countries come to the US for major procedures?

If socialized medicine is so great why are Britain's doctors going on strike?

The year cost of taxes that go towards healthcare is less than one hospitals visit costs in america.
That argument doesn't hold up.

>There is no such thing as free healthcare.
All NHS services are free to the end user regardless of their income or amount of payment into the system.

That was a dispute about a change of conditons to junior doctors working contracts. It had nothing to do with the quality of care.

>All NHS services are free to the end user
>Someone has to pay for it
You seem to miss user's point entirely

Trump has "socialized" healthcare, and so does his entire family now.

Every member of the US military has "socialized" medicine.

Every member of the US congress has healthcare insurance paid for by US taxpayers. and they are very glad to have it - even as they tell you that Americans hate healthcare paid by tax dollars.

Everybody hates socialized medicine, but it is better than any of the other healthcare alternatives.

Because we're a free market capitalist country and you're taking the free market out of healthcare.

Nothing is free when you put it under your terms. Everything has to come from somewhere. 'Here try a free sample' "Durr hurr well it's not free is it someone had to make it and get paid for the ingredients" Yeah no shit sherlock.

No. You can choose private healthcare in the UK too, it's just that with the NHS everyone is entitled to the same level of care regardless of circumstance. If you wish to choose another provider that is up to you, although funny how those with private care run back to the NHS the moment they're faced with anything serious or costly like cancer.

You seem to have missed the point that the tax towards healthcare (around 2%) is per year generally less than the cost of a single hospital visit in america.

It's free to use, like your local library. Obviously the service is paid for via taxation but there is no cost associated with the individual according to the quantity or cost of services received e.g. if you get a £20,000 operation the level of tax you pay as an individual will not increase.

if i get a brain aneurism i want a proper trained american surgeon not some europoor intern with a rusty scalpol

Wow. So without free healthcare in the us you don't pay income tax then. Nor do you have to pay for health insurance.

Oh wait. You totally do. So it's exactly the same except we - Britishers - don't have to pay the insurance bit. Sooo we're better off and have free healthcare.

Fuck you yanks.

Because the idea of socialism working is threatening to the capitalist elite.

Afghanistan was a perfectly healthy socialist country, so America stirred up and funded the religious right to take over as an FU to russia.

Then spread the idea that it's the peoples money is being stolen to pay for things they didn't earn.

Nobody should have to pay to live. And people on higher wages still lead better lives because they wouldn't have to pay for the hoapital either. But fear and self interest play in America, and that's why the tangerine is now in charge.

National Debt: $19,923,829,395,684.76

Almost to 20 boys!

small price to pay for F-35 jets and hamburgers

Judging by your ignorance and your spelling, I think you have already had your aneurysm.

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>doesn't know difference between communism and socialism
>but LIBERALS are the problem
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NHS of..who? Canada? The land of waiting 6 weeks for an MRI result?
Or the UK, where the NHS has collapsed and been rebuilt FOUR times since 1970?
Sweden, Germany, Finland, France, Belgium? They still use amoxycillin as a cure-all. It's woefully out of date with the emerging superbugs of this decade.

Well America was never christian, so...

National honors society?

The ones who continually bark the loudest as far as wanting these 'free' programs are typically the ones paying the least into the system.

As someone who makes pretty good money, why would I want to receive the same shit Healthcare as some lazy nigger and their 5 children just because I chose to make better life choices?

Did this guy seriously try to use the VA as an upstanding and successful example of socialist medicine?

holy fuckin kek

sick and dying soldiers laying in beds under a roof that was literally rotting over their heads

Reagan... fucking Reagan.

Such a horrible fucking president that did so much fucking damage to the country, that it's still feeling the effects today.

- Increased the ability of lobbyists.
- Started a war on drugs.
- Convinced Americans that socialism is just another name for communism, and communism is for dirty Russians.

Clearly the uneducated one here is you.

>thinks theres capitalist liberals out there
An autocratic progressive. Riiiiight.
Man. You need to wake up from that fever-dream.

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well the thing other countries don't understand is that everything "government" in the US is fucking shit if it's public facing.. go to the DMV and wait in line for fucking 8 hours to talk to an "equal opportunity" high school dropout just so that they can talk down to you and tell you to come back the next day, then tell me that you want the government near hospitals..

or, if you want another example, fucking airport customs or security checkpoints.

our doctors might be shit and overprescribe EVERYTHING, but at least the government isn't sending in the dindunuffins to nurse when they're under qualified

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There is no national religion, but it was undeniably founded on Judeo Christian priciples.

You do realize if you WANT to pay, you can get your shit much faster through private clinics and what not.

Also I like knowing that not having told my coverage that I got my Wisdom Teeth out way back when I was 18 is grounds enough to cancel any costly treatments should I get Cancer or some debilitating disease when they actually start to look for any ways to drop your ass.

Try getting up off your ass and actually apply yourself instead of expecting the red carpet to be laid at your feet to the villa of endless job opportunities.

Takes a bit more than just bitching about how the world isn't fair to better yourself.

This is their agenda, people. Open your eyes. Stop being fooled.

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The NHS imprisons people as psychopaths for failing a psychiatric exam. No matter what the attending physician thinks, the NHS dictates imprisonment based on the test score alone.

The NHS considers homeopathy scientific and even pays for homeopathy-only hospitals, where patients are prescribed water based treatments at enormous markups at taxpayer expense.

The NHS justifies all of its incompetence and malpractice by saying, "We're the good guys! You're evil for hating free healthcare!" whenever the slightest criticism of the NHS' many problems is raised, so that rather than letting the problems get fixed, there are arguments about the morality of welfare.

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watching these liberals cry salty tears warms my cold dead heart up ughhhhh

Typical response from a fucking moron.

Anyone who wants security is of course some sort of lazy asshole, and not someone who wants security. I already got fucked over on my non-union job. Don't want my insurance company to fuck me over if I get some sort of debilitating illness.

Free healthcare is not a liberal Idea. Lrn2 political ideology

mornin' samefag

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>free access to healthcare in otherwise capitalist system
>OMG SOCIALISM DOESN'T WORK

Britain takes it up the arse for business, there are so many tax loopholes available to big businesses we practically pay the cunts to operate here. It's about as far from socialism as you can get and the NHS is one of the few remaining public services yet to be privatised because the fact is, it works pretty fucking well by comparison, and even selfish middle England geriatrics would be up in arms if the Tories scrapped it.

You do realize that your cunt god there resorted to government handouts and assistance in the end right?

Sure kid. You're not fooling anyone. The people have spoken, liberalism is dead.

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do as i say not as i do (not that i finished atlas shrugged, it had too much dumb BDSM stuff in it for me)

I don't think it's feasible for the US though, just too many fucking people. They already spend 1.7 trillion a year on their current Healthcare system.

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PETA is good with that too. The VP for a while was telling people to stop taking medications that were tested on animals. Meanwhile she was a diabetic who was using insulin that was tested on animals.

I live in Canada with "free" healthcare and it blows. Nothing USB free. The coverage is pure shit and hospital wait times r ridiculous. And as long as u make over 25k ur paying monthly for this shit ass coverage

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Because paying for fatties to have quadruple bypasses while you get told your condition doesn't warrant additional treatment is bullshit.

Yet you still have an option to pay for better service through private clinics. The US doesn't have the freebie to fall back on.

lol no it wasn't.

"The United States of America is in no sense founded on the Christian religion." -The Treaty of Tripoli, signed by John Adams

Stop listening to what Fox news tells you about American history, dumbass.

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Because free Healthcare isn't free for me. I work hard to provide for myself. I've worked hard all my life to get where I am and my family worked hard all their lives to provide a stable home for me to launch from. I shouldn't have to subsidize the poor decision making of the reSt of my species. When I was growing up if you couldn't afford Healthcare you know what we did? We went without Healthcare for awhile and acted a little more carefully.

Healthcare in America:
Hospitals cannot deny you care, period. You have an emergency, you will be cared for regardless of income.
2. Cost of treatment is quite low if you don't go through insurance. Catastrophic coverage can be purchase at reasonable cost (usually).
3. Single-payer would work here if only the politicians weren't such faggots. Our interactions with government services (state and federal) are so poor that we can't be blamed for thinking "we've already given you so much money and you wasted it, why should you get more to squander"?

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Your taxes are quite high though aren't they? And maybe I'd you guys paid for some insurance your teeth wouldn't look so fucked up

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I am glad you like how the UK does thimgs. Stay there. We do not like how the UK does things so we have no intention of doing things the way the UK does things.

Because middle class working people can no longer afford to pay for and use their health care, while illegal immigrants are getting elective vaginoplasty surgery after having 5 kids on the dole.

Shots fired.

>The NHS imprisons people as psychopaths for failing a psychiatric exam. No matter what the attending physician thinks, the NHS dictates imprisonment based on the test score alone.

What? Ignoring the fact that the 'attending physician' is part of the NHS (what do you actually think the NHS is?) a duty mental health officer separate from the NHS must give authority to section someone under the mental health act and a police officer must also be present. It's a decision not taken lightly, I can assure you, not least because it costs a fucking fortune to put someone in psychiatric care and there is a significant bed shortage, so you can bet that if someone is detained for mental health reasons, they're pretty fucking mental.

>The NHS considers homeopathy scientific and even pays for homeopathy-only hospitals, where patients are prescribed water based treatments at enormous markups at taxpayer expense.

In the past when the economy was better an infinitesimal amount of resources were allocated to homeopathic treatments. It's extremely unusual though and rarely happens; in the few cases it is approved it's through patient driven request.

>The NHS justifies all of its incompetence and malpractice by saying

What? We have a proper legal system here, if malpractice occurs you can pursue it through the courts like anywhere else.

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Fuck off newfag.

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Except straightening out wonky teeth in adults isn't often a medical issue, so insurance doesn't cover it most of the times, and when it does, it will cover a small amount.

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Maybe your parents should've paid for good insurance when you were a kid you poor eurocuck piece of garbage.

I'd still have that option without a freebie to fall back on and I wouldn't be forced to pay for a service I haven't used in 2 years
Also I think insurance rates would be cheaper if the whole country wasn't under this "basic" coverage of healthcare

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My "free" healthcare comes with a $2000 dollar deductible, and $150/month fee.

It's not free dodo, and I pay so much for it, I can't afford the $100 visit to the doctor for the cold I have.

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One nation, under God.

Also, don't see what Fox news has to do with anything.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

Dude, you're lucky. I'd take the freebie.

My uncle got his insurance cut off when he got cancer and needed treatment. They'll take your money fine, but once you get something that's going to cost them, they look into your application with a fine toothed comb.

He forgot to mention he had his Wisdom Teeth pulled when he was 19... so they cut him off.

Insurance is a business, and the primary goal of a business is to make money. Cancer and shit like that costs more to treat than you've ever put in. So they WILL try to fuck you.

my roughly 350k salary (up by 25k this year) and net worth that just passed 1MM in 2016 will probably make it through the reign of the cheeto, hell I'll probably make a windfall since he'll drive up equity prices, but it's getting really hard for me to keep trying to vote for your sorry ass' best interests.

I don't want to say "fuck you, I got mine" but I sure could.

lol OK my redneck friend.

What do you do?

>thinking "One Nation Under God" was something that was always a part of the Pledge of Allegiance and not added in the 1950s by Bible-beating morons like yourself

Fox News loves to tell dumb shits like you (their main demographic) that kind of bullshit.

>blah blah Fox News blah i'm educated hurdurr Bibles yadda yadda

>implying this doesn't happen in all health care systems
KYS

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Frenchfag here, "free" healthcare here as well. It's shit, you have to wait 6 months to get a fucking appointment to the doctor.

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Look man you don"t need to beat a bible to recognize the nation was founded on Judeo Christian PRINCIPLES. Your rabid hostility toward the notion is narrow minded.

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Amerifats are scared to death that their taxes will be used to aid their countrymen. They prefer that these funds are spent on murdering brown people and stealing their oil.