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jtg on the front page of RYM edition

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favorite Coltrane album. go

Reminder that big band, swing, and basically all jazz before cool jazz and hard bop is underrated.

Has anyone read Miles Davis' autobiography? It dropped a lot in price on Amazon and I just got paid, so I think I might get it. Also any other jazz books worth reading?

>Reminder that big band, swing, and basically all jazz before cool jazz and hard bop is underrated.
Tell that to the legions of people out there who got their jazz history from Ken Burns.

I heard it's an amusing read but I still haven't gotten to it.
>any other jazz books worth reading?
Ted Gioia - The History of Jazz

I read it and he swears a lot :(

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i'm kinda a hard bop slut. rec me some big band and swing?

Ellington's early stuff, Benny Goodman, and Basie are obvious places to start. I also really like Teddy Wilson and Stan Kenton.

what in tarnation

True. I agree with 's sentiment, but I'm definitely down for some early jazz discussion/shares/recs.

got any favorite Chronological Classics?

Jazz serves a cultural function in the music scene. It is a signifier for musical "adulthood." To embrace jazz is to don a kind of graduation cap, signifying a broadening of tastes outside "mere" rock music. This ostentatious display of "sophistication" is an insult, and I find the graduation cappers transparent and tedious. Certainly there must be interesting music one could call "jazz." There must be. I've never heard it, but I grant that it is out there somewhere.
Jazz has a non-musical parallel: Christiania, the "free" zone in Copenhagen. In Christiania, like in jazz, there is no law. People are left to their own inventions to create and act as they see fit.

In Jazz, the musicians are allowed to improvise over and beside structural elements that may themselves be extemporaneous. Sounds good, doesn't it? Freedom -- sounds good. The reality is much bleaker. Christiania is a squalid, trashy string of alleys with rag-and-bone men selling drugs, tie-dye and wretched food. Granted Total Freedom, and this is what they've chosen to do with it, sell hash and lentil soup? Jazz is similar. The results are so far beneath the conception that there is no English word for the dissappointment one feels when forced to confront it.

Granted Total Freedom, you've chosen to play II V I and blow a goddamn trill on the saxophone? Only by willfully ignoring its failings can one pretend to appreciate it as an idiom and don the cap.

>I never got to download the entire Chronological Classics collage on WCD before it got shut down
>I'll probably never get another chance to do so
Bad feels man.

Shit. I didn't even realize this was a thing until right now...

somebody somewhere probably still has the link to the torrent don't they?

definitely the best resource for pre-50's jazz

i could never answer this but ive been listening to a lot of pic related recently. the energy from live stuff around a love supreme but before sunship is just so damn intense. but my favorite music of all time is the stuff once the band became trane, jimmy, sanders, alice, and ali.
definitely worth a read but i cant call it a good autobiography haha. Mingus's is a fantastic read but idk what the fuck it is.
honestly i really only love the early ellington stuff and even thats mostly starting when blanton joins. my knowledge of the stuff is pretty weak, but i played a big band gig tonight. i felt bad that my main reference was richard davis's playing with thad and mel.
what in tarnation
fantastic review jtg. and thank you to whoever OP is for getting some /jazz/ going.

>also
whats everyones favorite, classic vocalist record? i really need to check out some good Sarah Vaughn, Ella, or carmen. preferably with small group?
>and
favorite bass players?

holy shit this looks fantastic...

>More discussion than /classical/
>dies at less than 50 replies
just kill me senpai

Interesting. We should definitely look into acquiring as much as possible and sharing it with the general.

>fantastic review jtg.
He's really quite good.

>thank you to whoever OP is for getting some /jazz/ going.
No problem. There was a Hathut edition earlier today that I wanted to keep bumped before heading off to dinner, but it got away (as usual).

Shame.

Sup Forums has no respect for or interest in jazz. /classical/ only survives through the power of turboautists constantly bumping the thread.

>We should definitely look into acquiring as much as possible and sharing it with the general.
I'd be down for a /jazz/ megas the same way /classical/ does.

Re-uploading these.One of the best resources for jazz history.

Collection of almost all the Blue Note liner notes.
Here's the 1500 series.
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ah man, i might have to try to read it in the archive. ive had to play on 4 recitals this week and had a big band gig today so ive had little time for posting. i read alot of the jazz threads on my phone throughout the day. got to listen to some good shit though, some james brown and some richie beirach (i know i spelled that shit wrong).

downloaded. thank you so much.

Steve Albini is a fucking idiot.

This. Like a nice big old folder of stuff (particularly if it's rare stuff not available on streaming services and such).

I'm also still down for making the essentials/entry level chart and mega folder for different jazz eras/styles.

the thing is Sup Forums dosen't have any respect for classical either, if you look now it's just the same boring discussion over and over again
>"Can i become a virtuoso?"
>Links to random piece without even saying something on it
>/classical/ memes

4000 series, first three parts

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Don't forget
>"Petzold" being spammed in every thread
>random Sup Forums-posting
>trashing jazz and other genres because "hurr degeneracy"

you got the same link three times there

thanks for posting these! reading liner notes when you buy old records is great, so a these are a great resource to have around

I would like to know if the album's title has something to do with barnett newman's black fire

Ah good call. Blue Note's liner notes are always so well written too.


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/classical/ as well as /bleep/ and some other generals survive for the sake of off-topic shitposts bumping the thread. /jazz/ as it is is rather perfect if you ask me.

Does jtg even post anymore?

Can you guys recommend me material similar to Coltrane's My Favorite Things and that third stream Yugoslav album that was posted in the last thread?

Jazz but with somewhat poppy qualities, I guess?

I'm pretty sure he mostly posts anonymously now since so many autists started shitposting against him, especially in the sharethreads from back in the day.

>/bleep/
It's gotten so shit these past couple years.

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if youre willing to keep posting, im still downloading! this is great shit, thank you man.

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Thanks so much for these!

thanks to jazz user in other thread that just posed a bunch of zippys to some cool records im listening to Dewey Redman's "Look for the Black Star" for the first time. jazz threads are good.

Maybe I'll post some good Downbeat articles tomorrow. Either in this thread or in some future thread.

That would be much appreciated!

What is your pick for most underrated jazz album ever?

Compared to her husband Alice Coltrane is pretty underrated. I can see why since her music is more experimental, but she still produces some beautiful music. I like her album "Ptah the El Daoud"

Do the lyrics 'if the world could love one another all of the world would be as one'?
It was a track in a blindfold thread and it had some vocal improv towards the middle. Trying to get the artists name since I forgot it long ago.

That would be Leon Thomas - One off of Spirits Known and Unknown

always nice to see someone remember something from the blindfolds :D

i'm really depressed because no one on any board or website is talking about anything interesting or profound. I feel like the only person who wants to discuss music of more obscure or deeper varieties. this is a good thread though.

muzikchan switch when?

Start the thread, I'll post.

musikchan.com/music/index.html

we'll try it out

i'm going to bed now

Count Basie & His Orchestra - Breakfast, Dance & Barbecue. It's his best imo and it swings so damn hard. His In a Mellow Tone there is amazing, far superior to Ellington's. At Birdland is also pretty good. Basie tends to be much better live.

Also Jazz at the Santa Monica Civic '72

Also, the sense of unity and the organic nature of the orchestra has never been greater than on Breakfast, Dance & Barbecue. The sound quality is fantastic, the orchestration rich. There are some weaker songs featuring Joe Williams and Cute, but just listen to In a Mellow Tone, you won't regret it. Other highlights are: Counter Block, Who, Me? If you're interested in Birdland, check out Corner Pocket (it's best performance of it anywhere).

This is Basie at the height of his powers, showcasing what a truly tight big band can achieve.

>whats everyones favorite, classic vocalist record? i really need to check out some good Sarah Vaughn, Ella, or carmen. preferably with small group?
Third CD of Jazz at the Santa Monica Civic 72 has several very strong performances of Ella. A great rendition of Marvin Gaye's What's Going On is on there too. In C-Jam Blues she competes with the blowers, quite funny.

Overall the album suffers at times from the common problems of J.A.T.P. recordings (second CD), but Basie's and Ella's sets are pretty solid (poor version of In a Mellow Tone though).

Here Ella forgets the lyrics of Mack the Knife and because of that improvises almost the entire song, actually enhancing the performance: youtube.com/watch?v=YI5fU6ZbyaA

Up until The Tea Break (plus Don't Worry 'Bout Me & Makin' a Whoopee), Sinatra at the Sands is great.

Is there no one listening to this?

I listened to most of the Cab Calloway one. I kinda just wish I'd had somebody else curating what they thought I should hear. I'm too lazy to go dumpster diving and after it kinda fell out of my rotation, I've never been bothered to go back to it.

In Touch is the best Zeuhl track not done by Magma

>whats everyones favorite, classic vocalist record?
I've got a real soft spot for the Ella and Louis collabs. Porgy and Bess in particular.
>i really need to check out some good Sarah Vaughn, Ella, or carmen. preferably with small group?
Vaughn, I've only heard the '55 s/t which is pretty good! Brownie's on trumpet.
For small groups with Ella, the one with Louis that's just called Ella and Louis and Live in Berlin are pretty great.
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>carmen
I've only heard Pretre. The group's not very small but the vocals are immaculate.
>favorite bass players?
Scott LaFaro, Paul Chambers, Jimmy Garrison, Ron Carter, Dave Holland, Charles Mingus, Charlie Haden, William Parker, Cecil McBee and Michael Formanek

Ella's Louis Armstrong impression is rivaled only by Leonard Bernstein's
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Who are the best modern pianists?

My favorites are Monk and Tyner if that helps.

Craig Taborn
David Virelles
Orrin Evans
Vijay Iyer
Luis Perdomo

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can anyone recommend some stuff thats a bit like this? i cannot stop listening to it

youtube.com/watch?v=ge9_YFvPBpM Vladimir Konovalov Jazz Orchestra - The legend of the Araratsky valley

moar like this pls

bump

total newfag here

what are some "muh deep rainy mood"-jazz artists/songs?

I want to feel like I sit at a bus station in Kyoto late night while it's raining.

Seconding vocal jazz recs, especially for Ella. I'm only familiar with her songbook records (which are GOAT by the way.)

Bump

Are there any other good reviewers on RYM or bloggers or anything? JTGs reviews are ok but he mostly reviews obscure stuff.

Check out Tigran Hamasyan. He blends a lot of different styles into his music so it may not be exactly what you're looking for, but he's a modern pianist you need to hear regardless.

Recs for Evans and Perdomo? I've heard of the other ones but not them.

Zappaholics reviews are usually ok and he has reviewed a lot of the classics. Jazzis is good but he reviews a lot of European stuff. Most of it is more obscure than jtg's.

I don't know about many blogs but freejazzblog.org has good reviews of modern free stuff.

I really like ploooomysunday, tons of jazz and old meme classical recordings.

Miles, Davis, the list could go on and on...

realizing steve albini is such a fucking idiot was like finding out the foo fighters were HIV deniers.

Perdomo is great on all of the Miguel Zenon quartet records. Also his album Links is a favorite, it's also with Miguel Zenon. The Infancia Project is Latin jazz but really good too.

As for Evans, check out his album Captain Black.

>read Albini jazz pasta
>never heard of him
>look up some of his music
>it's all 3 chord buttrock
>mfw

where do you find stuff like this?

Does anybody here collect jazz on vinyl? Have anything rare or anything that you're especially proud of?

Jtg is my husbando. I think about him every night.

My Fav Things, A Love Supreme, Meditations, Giant Steps in that order

1. Christiania is a fun place
2. Lentils soup is beyond delicious
3. Steve is a hack

What is Sup Forums's opinion on Django Reinhardt?

Very good

full of plebs

God-tier

>full

There's like 8 posters.

Looks like it's from down beat magazine. JTG used to post stuff from his collections of old down beat issues so I would assume its him.

i just want a Sup Forums alternative

i hate this shitty board

And Sup Forums isn't?

You could help build a better board for discussion, why so loyal to Jap Moot?

it's all on RED. do any of you have an account there? if not i can grab it for you if you tell me what format you want