i'm really depressed because no one on any board or website is talking about anything interesting or profound. I feel like the only person who wants to discuss music of more obscure or deeper varieties.
Chase Moore
Reminder that if you haven't completed a music degree, you're only pretending to like classical music.
Camden Perez
lol fag
Henry Morales
People who actually understand music don't have time to waste their brains listening to inferior "music" like jazz (if you can even really call it music when classical exists). It quite simply isn't worth the time. You don't see people going around "appreciating" inferior things like dial-up internet when broadband exists. No one but an idiot would. Face it, until you have grown up you're quite simply a hobby music fan, listening to the pathetic squawking of tasteless amateurs.
Aaron Morgan
Speaking of Carnegie Hall I just went there today to see a performance of Mozart's 33rd and 36th Symphonies along with his Piano Concerto 20
Jaxson Campbell
Show me your degree, Plácido. Nah, you probably have a STEM degree in which case you need to go back to listening to Kendrick Lamar.
Jaxon Morris
t. future barista
Easton Cook
Such as?
Not everyone is privileged enough for that
Levi Foster
you're not impressing anyone
David Bennett
You went to Mozart alone? AHAHAHA*breathes in*HAHA
Christopher Torres
>can't into well made popular music broaden your horizons or prepare for people to write you off as closed minded. I bet you can't into traditional music either?
Anthony Bailey
This general is truly the last bastion for fine arts discourse on the internet
David Campbell
I'm envy him for that desu
Jaxon White
far far faaar from it
Easton Anderson
Name some others then. Seriously...
Liam Rodriguez
Sup Forums is truly red-pilled though.
Owen Green
Name secular choral music please?
Brody Reed
>not turning up at university to study an employable degree but getting more and more involved in classical music and realising that that is what you're actually interested in but realising you're actually a brainlet when it comes to classical music so through a combination of voraciously consuming all classical media you can get your hands on and shitposting on /classical/ you gradually build up your knowledge to the point that you know more about it than 90% of actual music students at your uni and are often told by members of the music department that you should do a postgraduate in music despite your degree course being in something else entirely. Take the /classical/pill
Landon Garcia
Most Renaissance composers wrote secular choral pieces alongside their sacred ones. Anything called a chanson/madrigal is usually secular.
Brandon Turner
Is it okay to learn violin after the age of 20? >tfw back then when was young a poor family >tfw always impressed with classic disney cartoon
Wyatt Bailey
...yeah... it was kinda weird being the only guy there under the age of 50 too
Daniel Phillips
Do you have any recommendation of such secular choral? I need /classic/ redpill now because I realised that the music nowadays are shitty.
Mason Campbell
Post your own compositions
Ian Smith
Recommend me some similar Mass settings—besides Missa Hercules dux Ferrariae by Josquin des Prez.
Elijah Jackson
I was talking to someone music students at my college and they somehow didn't know who Bruckner was.
I didn't even know that was possible. They're graduating this year btw.
Gavin Hernandez
Most of them are filthy normies who barrel through the repertoire (either playing or studying) and then go right back to their shitty pop and rap, that's the music they want to make and play and that's why they're there.
Joshua Diaz
>Name secular choral music please? *tips fedora*
Liam Jones
Do you have any suggestion then? *still waiting for secular choral music collection*
Nicholas Nelson
Still waiting on
Brody Thomas
Most of Brahms' choral works are secular and very beautiful, some of his best underrated works, even his requiem is a lot less religious than most. Schubert has a lot of secular choral but it generally isn't as interesting.
Tippet - A Child of Our Time Holst - Choral Symphony, Fantasy, Cloud Messenger Kurtag, Krenek, Schoenberg, Poulenc all have some good choral stuff.
Jace Foster
Janacek's Glagolitic Mass
Andrew Bell
Which translation of Wagner's Ring is the best? The one pubicly available online seems overly literal and kind of reads poorly.
Aiden Campbell
>Holst holst is butt lol
Hunter Cook
Stuart Spencer or Andrew Porter.
Daniel Peterson
I see. Where can I get these?
Andrew King
They're on Amazon, but I'm guessing you're asking where you can download them.
I dunno if Spencer's work has been uploaded yet, I certainly haven't seen it. As for Porter's, you can look for Goodall's Ring and get the scans for that.
Porter's work is a very liberal translation (but faithful) meant to be sung, and Goodall used it in his version.
Jayden Scott
You can get the booklets of the Goodall ring, which uses the Porter translation, on the chandos site.
I've been getting into Scriabin recently, probably some of the best music I've ever heard but I can't understand why I like it so much (I'm a brainlet when it comes to music theory), anyone wanna give me a quick rundown?
Jace Williams
Transcendental pleasure highs senpai
Scriabin is my nigga senpai
Thomas Jones
honest to God I cried when I listened to Prometheus, don't know how he does it
Jordan Edwards
Opium, Cocaine, Theosophy and underage pussy
Dylan Foster
Is there a good studio Ring recording without fucking Windgassen as Siegfried?
Jaxon Cox
Why haven't these threads reached bump limit this last week? And what's the best new piece you listened to this week?
Elijah Sanders
Nigger, what? How in the world do you not know Paul van Kempen.
Anything by Polyphony & Stephen Layton or Accentus & Laurence Equilbey
Connor Hill
Janowski's first cycle is probably the most 'consistent' Ring recorded, period. It's actually kind of a miracle. René Kollo plays Siegfried on that, and unlike Windgassen, who was merely a surrogate heldentenor, Kollo is a real one. And quite a youthful one, at that. Some people deem him too light for the role, but it's actually refreshing to hear a youth in a title which is supposed to be young. He's probably my favorite post-golden era Heldentenor overall, honestly. Might not be as good as some of the greats, but I would take a million of him over some of the awful singers they had at Bayreuth last year.
There's also Karajan's recording, I suppose. But I never liked his Siegfrieds too much. Mostly because even though their voices are fine, the acting falls flat.
Julian Wood
Try Mealor
Christian Martin
>surrogate heldentenor what do you mean by this
Sebastian Edwards
thnaks for teh suggstiosn
Gabriel Brown
I think he's saying that Windgasse was winging it.
Nathaniel Gonzalez
Windgassen barely fulfilled the role of heldentenor, in my opinion.
The problem with Windgassen's voice was that, past the early 50s, he was very much lacking in his ability to sing high. Listen to his recording from the 60s onwards, and what you have is an incredibly leathery voice, with enough heroism, but lacking in the tenor qualities which are necessary for the role. However, at that time Windgassen was one of the best options available, and thanks to his success at Bayreuth he became more-or-less the main "pick" for that kind of role until the late 60s/early 70s.
Thanks for the recomendation, will check it out. Windgassen just sounded too 'weak' for me. My favorite Siegfried is Suthaus.
Kayden Scott
Yes, Suthaus is very good. He always reminded me a bit of Lorenz in some ways, not as much ham, but the same kind of careful attention to rhythmic speech patterns as well as diction. Both were as clear as a bell.
Lincoln Lewis
>You guys don't belong there so I'm not linking anything Cop out.
>It's the same everywhere, no one really talks about literature or philosophy on lit either.
None, Wagner is shit. Listen to Mahler instead, Mahler is everything Wagner wishes he could be.
William Bell
Wrong
Josiah Thomas
I don't think Mahler would appreciate you saying such things about his favorite composer.
"I can hardly describe my present state to you. When I came out of the Festspielhaus, completely spellbound, I understood that the greatest and most painful revelation had just been made to me, and that I would carry it unspoiled for the rest of my life."
- Mahler after seeing the Parsifal premiere
Dominic Wilson
Right.
Beethoven also thought Cherubini was the best composer of his age, but Cherubini's shit.
Christian Ross
Always really hated Karajan's Sibelius, just seems so artificial. Never knew he worked with Gould.
Colton Hughes
Mahler is grandiloquent is way that he has no justification to be, unlike Wagner who at least had some backing for his style.
Jaxson Long
Yes, but Cherubini had little influence in the music of Beethoven.
Without Wagner, you simply do not have Mahler. He admitted as much himself.
Anthony Myers
in a way*
Levi Watson
t. Adolf Schnekenberger
Hunter Davis
Nah, I love both Mahler and Wagner. They're my favorite romantics desu
Kevin Mitchell
?
Easton Reed
Now that Youtube has full albums uploaded at Opus 160kb/s, it's super easy to find almost anything.
Here's what I do now:
>Follow a reviewer or seek out reviews on Amazon or somewhere for an album you're interested in
>Search Youtube for the artist, filter by Channel, select the one that says X - Topic
>Click Albums
>Bam, you've got CDs and full fucking boxsets arranged in playlists automatically
I don't even know why people bother with Spotify or radio anymore. It's especially great if you're browsing different performances.
>tfw at an orchestra concert for brahms piano concerto 2 Kill me, I won't survive the pretension
Jacob Hall
Petzold, you faggots.
Joseph Myers
Hey Guys!
I'm somewhat new to classical and I'm looking for an overlap in Brian Eno's melodic intensity and immediacy to a classical piece/style/composer. I'm thinking of a simpler, slower version of Piano Concerto 21 by Mozart (preferably with piano, but it doesn't have to be).
>the spruce soundboard was rotting away from both age and all the years of exposure and abuse it took following the war. In spite of meticulously filling in cracks and splits, the ancient wood (regardless of where it really came from) was falling apart and it would only be a matter of time.
