$144 million on production

>$144 million on production
>$100 million on advertising

What went wrong?

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boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=main&id=ghostbusters2016.htm
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variety.com/2016/film/news/mattel-strong-ghostbusters-toy-sales-1201820557/
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GamerGators did everything they could to sabotage it

Looks like decent numbers. They still have a lot of time to break even.

Everything from the time they gave it to Feig onward.

>Sony

there is your problem

>stomped by Life of Pets in its third week and some cheap-ass youtube adaption horror flick

>break even

Never.

remind
>SECOND
>WEEKEND
>FIFTH
>PLACE

youtube.com/watch?v=wnVH0s1c9yY

Nigga Star Trek came out this weekend
Ghostbusters is done

It won't. It 100% cannot at this point.

you know breaking even is a massive failure and am embarassment right

>jason bourne next week to bury the corpse
>suicide squad the week after that to spit on the grave
Looking forward to that sequel

>1st weekend 2nd place to secret life of pets which was in its 2nd weekend

>2nd weekend falls to fifth place behind and is still behind secret life of pets

>jason bourne next week
>suicide squad the week after

THIS MOVIE IS FINISHED TOP KEK

People don't make movies to "break even"

They want a profit, and blockbusters like this are meant to bring in at least twice what they cost in production and advertising

Nothing went wrong, those are good numbers. Original Star Wars movies had about the same expense to profit ratios, where they got rich were in toy sales, which the new Ghostbusters is making a killing in. Kids love the new Ghostbusters movie. The only people I have met who don't like it are angry white males on the internet. Luckily mysoginy and racism are learned behaviors, so kids can still enjoy the film.

Shit it's actually in fifth!!?

I mentioned yesterday it'd be funny if the horror film bumped it out of 4th place but I didn't truly believe it'd actually happen!

The movie is dogshit. I'm glad its doing so bad because watching it was painful.

LIBKEK BTFO

Daily reminder studios only keep about 1/2 of the domestic grosses and about 1/3 of foreign grosses.

So they haven't actually made 71 million domestically, they've made 35 million.

This is a huge flop.

Kids don't seem to enjoy it as much as they do life of pets dipshit

Pretty much this. I've already gotten my wife's son the complete Ghostbusters toy collection.

All of the girls in the neighborhood love to come over to play with the toys with him, much to their white fathers dismay.

Damn you, GaymerGayte

Here's a good female-drive movie from Sony to illustrate this: girl with the dragon tattoo

Production budget = 90 M
Marketing = 129 M
Total cost = $219 M

Domestic Gross = 98 M
Domestic Net = 53 M (what the studio kept from american and canadian theatre chains, the rest go to the theatres)
Foreign Gross = $132M
Foreign Net = $54 M (what the studio kept from internationa theatre chains, note the proportion is less)
Total Revenue = 108 M

Revenue - Cost = Profit

108 - 219 = $110,000,000 Loss

For those of you wondering, I got the numbers from this wikileaks document when they were calculating if they should make a sequel. Obviously the answer was no:

wikileaks.org/sony/docs/03_03/MKTGFIN/Green Light Memos/GLMEMOS/FY2015/GL Meeting Spreadsheets/Girl.Fire.x

Note this is not Hollywood accounting, which is something different- that's when a movie tries to make a hit look like a bomb on paper in order to not pay taxes or points on a deal. this is a plain old bomb, but on paper a lot of people thought it was a hit.

"Break even" in Hollywood is considered a fucking disaster thanks to all the behind the scenes costs that don't make it into the budget/advertising.

This movie probably needed to gross something like $300-400 million to be considered a success by Hollywood standards.

Plus look at what its going to be competing against this week and next. You've got Star Trek, Life of Pets, and then eventually the new Bourne movie.

It'd be lucky to limp away with $150 million this point worldwide.

They made 6 million dollars yesterday.

No, they didn't, there's a difference between a gross and net.

>buy a house
>put tens of thousands of dollars of work into it
>sell house for same price you bought it for

If you don't see how breaking even is a bad thing then you need to educate yourself famalam.

Original Star wars you'r comparing profits to movies from the 80's really? also the toy sales are for the original GB toys if your really read the numbers the toys of the new GB don't seel and they are in half price

it didn't make enough money to turn a profit for the studio

boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=main&id=ghostbusters2016.htm

How you want your reboot, pham?

Just fem my shit up senpai

Wrong link.

boxofficemojo.com/daily/chart/?sortdate=2016-07-22&track=ghostbusters2016.htm

Four unfunny women, shit script and a literal ape trying to act

>Original Star wars you'r comparing profits to movies from the 80's really?

Learn to read moron, he clearly said RATIO. I didn't even like the movie that much but you fucking idiots from Sup Forums are making me love it. Anything to see you manchildren in tears.

That doesn't change the fact that this movie bomed and the original Star Wars was a huge hit.

>good numbers

I know this is b8, but fuck it.

Explain how losing money is "good numbers"

If you were to make an investment into something for 2 to 3 years and broke even on it, you wouldn't call that a good thing. In that time you could have invested in something that would have made you back your money twice over or more. That's a loss if you're also spending money believing you'll see that sort of return.

It also doesn't include the money you've spent trying to hype whatever it is you've invested in. "Breaking even" is a monumental fuck up in this sort of game.

Dont you get that everyone is sick of shitty reboots for a cash grab?
If your going to do a reboot at least put some effort into it or dont do it at all.

They completly ruined GB

This movie is also a huge hit. No press is bad press, and with all the debates raging around this, we are sure to see several sequels as a result. Sequels will just have a smaller budget, to save money they will rely more on CGI instead of practical effects, and no expensive cameos from washed up former celebrities.

The director said it needs at least 400 millions to break even. Maybe he souldn't have said that when interviewed.

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youtube.com/watch?v=OG83qBuQ_A8

>shit on core fans
>they shit on you back
Toppity top kek

Actually, it's been a huge bomb. It needs to make at least $500 to turn a profit, it's not going to get anywhere close to that before they release it to streaming services, VOD and bluray.

>losing money
They won't lose money, they will still make a shit load more from DVD sales, FIOS rentals, Red Box, TV replays, etc. Will at least break even with those revenue points, but where they will make the huge profits are in the toy sales. The news article got posted here last night where Matel said the revenue from toy sales are vastly exceeding their original estimates.

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How can we finally put an end to GabbleGolfers?

It already broke $500, senpei.

Taking bets, will it make it to August or will it be pulled before?

None of what you just said is true. Whoops! Glad i could clear that up for you! :)

>They completly ruined GB

You could say the same about Karate Kid, Point Break, Terminator, and just about every other reboot. The only reason Ghostbusters reboot got so much hate is because online racists and misogynists don't like the new cast, that's the bottom line.

It will make it to August but the second week it will be gone.

No, it didn't- it's only grossed 90M so far, and that's the gross, not the net.

Remember the box office net is after the theatres get their cut. It needs at least 500M to break even.

>citation needed

Bullshit thats why they are on clearence though

No boy is going to play with female action figures

>It needs to make at least $500

I'm guessing you mean 500 million (that's ok I know poltards aren't good with math). Originally you guys claimed it needed to make 100 million, then 300 million, then 400 hundred million, now you are upping it to 500 million. Keep on shifting those goal posts as the new film keeps meeting and exceeding your original requirements.

>DVD sales

No.

>FIOS rentals
>Red Box
What?

>TV Replays

Fucking what?

As for toys, good to see any numbers posted about revenue, very believable, really was nice to compare their projections to the money. Surely wasn't just puff piece horse shit, also definitely broke down how many people were buying the figures of the new characters, as opposed to merch based off of the original movies.

Oh yeah, and go fuck yourself.

its not showing anywhere in vietnam

normally we get all new blockbuster releases, but none of the large cinema chains are showing it

>gotten wife's son complete set.
>white girls comin over to play with them.
>implying white people don't already buy their own toys.
>implying your a black father figure. (No such thing) unless you are truly Russell Wilson.
Lol, top kek.

variety.com/2016/film/news/mattel-strong-ghostbusters-toy-sales-1201820557/

Cry more, idiots.

The fucking Director himself confirmed what others had been saying about it needing 500 million to be a success.

He actually said he'd be back to "film jail" if it didn't. This wasn't a joke because clearly he doesn't know how to be funny.

It's 5th place on its second weekend behind a low budget horror film and a kids film in its 3rd week. It's only able to beat another kids film that's been out for like 5 or 6 weeks now.

It's as fucked as it could be and do is Paul Feig. This movie was supposed to launch a trilogy AND spin offs. Amazing Spideman 2 made more than this did and was still considered a failure to launch a cinematic universe.

And then there's always creative accounting. Figure out a way to hide the losses in the Adam Sandler division so the suits in Japan will think it's a modest hit and you don't look so foolish for greenlighting like 5 sequels and spinoffs.

>number 5 after its first week

J U S T

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>>$100 million on advertising

The Curry/Lebron finals, were like, Superbowl prices, and they were showing tons of ads, not to mention the endorsements.

I'm guessing it's north of that number.

Amazing Amy doesn't give a shit about toy sales, what matters is the movie.

No, no, no, you misunderstood me. I never said it needed to make $500 M, Feig said that. Whoopsy daisy!

vulture.com/2016/07/paul-feig-ghostbusters-reboot-c-v-r.html

>As opening day approaches, Feig can’t help but think about the stakes of making a $150 million movie. “A movie like this has to at least get to like $500 million worldwide, and that’s probably low,” he says. “But the thing I care about most is the industry looking for an excuse to say, ‘See, a tentpole can’t be carried by female leads’” — three of whom are over 40. “I cashed in all my chips,” he says. “I had to use every chip to make this happen. And if this doesn’t work, I will probably have to go back to movie jail.”

Once again, you guys need to learn the difference between a box office gross, and a box office net.

>This wasn't a joke because clearly he doesn't know how to be funny.

Everything

Why would Amy want to do that when she could make another Men In Black or some thong bullshit that actually turns a profit very quickly?

>this movie is also a huge hit.
>evidence says otherwise.
Bwahahahaha. Fucking retarded.

Well no shit sherlock what is there to like about the cast?

>Le dumb men stronk female jokes

Face it they put the final nail in the GB coffin

Side note: jayden smith is a better actor then the whole GB cast.

>lower expectations since toys are selling like shit
>OMG THEY'RE ACTUALLY SELLING BETTER THAN WE THOUGHT THEY WOULD XD
Noticed how they didn't release any actual sales numbers either? And the evidence we do have points to the toys selling like hot garbage since so many of them went on clearance before the movie even dropped.

Stupid nigger.

The production budget alone was $144 million, add in marketing, and $500 million GROSS to break even is reasonable

Yeah? Had nothing to do with it being a shit movie after a series of remakes, and the mean spirited marketing campaign shitting on anyone who didn't like the movie? The clearly disingenuous bloggers phoning in their reviews as compared to actual critics and audience reactions?

Just the misogynists? The same guys that are neckbeard babies who hold no power and live in their mother's basements? Hey, I remember when they turned everyone on Star Wars ep VII too. Ha, remember that? When that happened? In reality? Oh yeah, and Mad Max: Fury Road. Boy, they sure did anything at all to that female-fronted intellectual property restart.

Hey I just also wanna say, any feminist who pushed this film and lied about its quality is doing more to hold women back than any manbaby neckbeard ever could. Tying your movement to corporate shilling is a great way to actually take agency away from your members, and instead give it to people that just want to use you to make a quick buck. Have fun with that.

I made $500 this week as well. It was a shitty week for me.

>so the suits in Japan

Amy Pascal, Paul Fieg, Adam Sandler, Seth Rogen, why are the Japanese letting all these conniving Jews squander their business? Don't they know they are being taken for a ride? How long before the samurai kicks these crooked kikes out of their film division?

Honestly those numbers are not that bad. You guys just come off as sad trying so desperately to make the numbers seem worse than they are. Sore losers anyone?

>I'll just make up shit and pretend Sup Forums actually said it
>CHECKMATE

Since the marketing blitz started its been 400-500. Then the director himself says 500.

The number speaks for themselves dumbass. No one needs to make them look bad because they are bad.

I looks like Mattel sold a fuck ton of the toys to retailers -- more than it expected to -- well before the movie was out, possibly based on faulty predictions about the movie's BO success. Now the toys are pegwarming absolutely everywhere. Retailers aren't gonna order much more since they petty much got burned on the initial orders.

GB has only made 80 mil. worldwide so far (it needs somewhere around 400 to break even, possibly a little more if the marketing costs are on the high end of estimates). It likely won't even break 150 worldwide. Sony won't make the difference on that on DVD sales, rentals, etc. in the time they initially expected to.

We might see a sequel, but I wouldn't bet on it.

Japan doesn't give a shit about Sony Pictures- Sony Pictures is an american company- Columbia- that happens to be owned by a Japanese conglomerate that changed the name Columbia to Sony Pictures when they bought it.

Amy and Michael do what they want.

What did he intend with this cryptic missive?

They're fucking awful. This movie opened worse than xXx, a movie with a $70m budget. A little under half of Ghostbuster's budget, by the way, at 144m.

I mean, there are definitely some sore losers in this thread. The people who are trying to play off what a shitbomb this movie was, for starters. Anyone trying to blame anyone but the studio/film maker for why it's failing.

>+40556.3%
wat?

it's already grossed almost 100 million worldwide. Toy sales are what made George Lucas a billionaire, and Ghostbusters appears to be on track to make Feig and Sony a shit ton of cash. Bottom line, the movie was a success.

>"Break even" in Hollywood is considered a fucking disaster thanks to all the behind the scenes costs that don't make it into the budget/advertising.

It's just that if you invest in a film and "break even," you've lost all the money you could have made by investing in something profitable. It's called an opportunity cost.

>clearence.jpg

>no citation
Keep moving those goalposts user, you're doing great!

Why would the Japanese not give a shit about a division that they payed billions of dollars for and that is losing cash hand over fist? Sony Pictures is a sinkhole that would have gone out of business already if it wasn't being propped up with an influx of cash from the Sony's game division.

>no citation

The article has already been posted you fucking moron. Read the thread.

has anyone else noticed Sup Forums seems to be getting dumber and dumber lately?

>get proven wrong again and again
>shout Sup Forums at everyone who disagrees

This is not a winning strategy. Who are you trying to convince here?

Kek

>spend hundreds of millions of dollars desperately trying to revive a dead franchise
>b-b-breaking even is good, guys

Yea because femBusters toys are selling as well as Star Wars merchandise was in the 70s-80s & 90s....

I read that article, it had no fucking numbers on sales whatsoever and it looks like a fluff piece of propaganda to try and promote shareholder confidence.

>Toy sales are what made George Lucas a billionaire
Maybe that has to do with the fact that he signed an extremely rare contract with zero precedent, and, lucky for him, his movie turned out to to a cultural phenomenon that's spanned decades, the likes of which will never occur again.

Also, this was before everyone and their kid owned and obsessed over dirt cheap tablets and other such devices. Plastic landfill fuel roughly shaped like people that cost 20 bucks a pop cannot compete against an iPad that comes with a million free apps.

Why are there cucks in here defending this shit pile?

It failed go defend something else

>I better use le Sup Forums boogieman insult again

Just curious. Do you think Mattel or other toy companies often put out statements about how well all of their toy lines are doing or just when they're trying to save face?

Sony got a taste of the power of legitimate controversy with The Interview, a shitty movie that still made a shitload of money because a bunch of people wanted to see the movie that North Korea was pissing their pants over.

But manufactured controversy doesn't sell like the real thing.

This

It's like when South Park makes fun of a celebrity and their agents put out a statement the next day telling the media "Ben Affleck thought it was hilarious!"

It's all just PR and damage control

Probably 75% shitposting baiters and 25% shills running out the movie's marketing budget.

Japan has bigger things to worry about, like their population dying out. Plus there's dollar/yen fluctuations.