I have a question about urine tests.
Is it possible to tell the sex of someone's urine test?
For example if I get my gf to pee in a bottle for me at my doctor's, would they be able to tell?
Also, if places normally don't text for sex, would it be possible to test for that at all? Say if I wanted to prove a urine wasn't male. Could i somehow prove it was a females?
These questions being answered would help me in ways you will never know. Please help!
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quit doing drugs like a nigger and you'll be fine
Yes it is possible to tell sex by urine, they don't usually test for it though.
Say someone sent in a urine test, it got tested, then after the fact wanted to prove it was female urine and not male urine. How would that be possible?
Also, do you know what they test for specifically in the actual urine to determine sex? Hormones or something?
The funny thing is I didn't. I just didn't take the medicine I was suppose to. So I used someone else's that I thought had it in their system.
I got kicked out because that females urine I used tested positive for drugs lol.
So i want to prove the urine I used wasn't mine, but have no idea how to. All I know for sure is that it's a different sex.
You're fucked and you're retarded, never will happen
for most labs, you are sending in to sample bottles, and one for testing and it its kosher the other is disposed of. However the amount of urine they actually need to test is a small amount compared to the sample given.
And yes, it would theoretically be hormones, though I cant recall that ever coming up. But unless she is either pregnant or on birth control I cant imagine them being in high enough concentrations, especially if she was well hydrated.
I know I'll never get back in, but if I can prove the urine isn't mine, with a simple sex test, I can get whatever the woman had in her system (bad drugs) off of my record. Right? They can't attach someone else's drugs to me right? It's very important that I get this done. Please help me user.
or if she was on her period maybe, I guess that would have elevated hormones
Do labs ever make mistakes? Could I argue they mixed my urine up with someone else's? I mean the cup I pissed into at my doc office wasn't labeled and was put on a shelf with multiple samples from hat entire day. Some also not written on but in other baggy.
So, I'm basically trying to find out if I can prove the pee I submitted wasn't mine, by arguing the pee I handed in was in fact female and not male like me.
How do I do this?
She's on birth control and know she took one the day before test. . Is that a good thing?
She uses birth control. Can you help me out of this? I just need to get them to admit my urine wasn't mine. Which it wasn't.
How the hell do I go about getting this done?
Kicked out of what?
they probably threw the urine out
Yes mistakes are made, that is why there is a lot of paper work to document chain of evidence. That sounds like a bad lab, where I work we have the person seal the cup with a tape and intital it, as well as have finger prints on it. The cup is labelled with a sticker that was filled out prior as well. that seems sketchy and sounds like you basically need a lawyer at this point.
Specialist doctor office.
drugs off the list, fraud on the list. Not sure which is worse to be honest. LOL
Fuck probably. Do you have any idea what would happen if I said "I can prove the urine wasn't mine"? They don't keep the results from the lab written down? Like birth control is something that would definitely come up right? Maybe they just didn't look for it of the paper they got?
depends on lab, we require 2 sample for each case, the original has likely been tossed, but we held the other for a few months incase there was an issue. This obviously can vary by lab
Well I didn't do it at a lab. It was just at a doc office. Do doctor offices test urine there or send it into labs?
It's still a failed test because you gave a fraudulent test user. You using some chick's pee pee is worse. Leave it alone.
It did also have that sticker on it, but it wasn't filled out before I left the sample on the counter with the other samples. Just a blank sticker.
In your experience as a technician, would birth control show up on a drug test?
I'd rather have fraud. This isn't for legal stuff where I'd go to jail. I just would continue to be kicked out of my doctor's office. However, if I could prove the urine isn't mine,they couldn't possibly keep someone else's drugs on my medical record right?
I'd much rather have fraud attached than heavy drugs in my system for medical records.
I don't know if the doctor do in house, its possible I guess, I only deal with lab side.
Ok dip shit. By admitting you submitted someone elses urine as your own to the testing facilities you will be automatically considered positive for drugs, etc even if your urine layer tests negative. Why? Well dingis butt .. you lied in an effort to cheet the sustem.
But I now have street drugs on my medical record where street drugs will be seen by other doctors in the future. If you're trying to get pain meds or anything in the future, someone else's pee is less bad than having street drugs no?
I want to fight this thing can you please help?
depends on what they were testing for, most I see are just employment screening or if they are doing a drug screen after an accident, and no its not usually tested for, we literally just looks for the markers of the drugs like marijuana, opiates, meth.
kek
as an aside, you can generally even do steroids and pass pre employment screenings
Really? Like straight up anabolic football jock roids?
I'm not going to admit I submitted someone else's urine. I'm simply going to place the burden of evidence on my doc office by forcing them to prove the urine was mine. Eh?
Then they can't prove it. Never going to say its someone else's urine. Just going to say well hey, can you please test it for other stuff? Because I know for a fact I didn't take what was said I took. Also, another huge thing, I take a prescription that didn't show up on the results that showed up on every previous result for over a year that didn't that time.
Im going to argue something didn't sound right and want to retest the urine and think they made a mistake. I'm sure mistakes have happened in the past too.
yep, they aren't generally a part of drug employment screenings
Doctor here. Urine test fraud is just as bad, if not worse, than finding drugs in urine. Fraud means you were definitely taking something and wanted to hide it and now it's up to my imagination to determine what it was.
OK it was definitely a test just for those drugs you listed. If it was a test like that, and some issue came up after the test saying those drugs weren't suppose to be there, what would be done? What can be done?
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They could tell by the chromosomes of whatever cells end up in the urine.
Not like they would check for that. But technically yes it is possible.
Won't work. Standards on getting the urine are too high. You'll cry "you made mistake" and they'll say "ehh, more likely you tried to fraud us"
Could they still attach the fraudulent urine to my record though? The urine with the street drugs in it if fraud came up regarding my urine test. They couldn't legally right?
if those drugs aren't there, file the report saying they weren't. If they were there, repeats process, if they still there file report saying they were. dispose of samples, but like I said here we have to separate samples. that's where my job ends.
I'd say find a new specialist. You may have to go farther away, but it'll be worth it. The doctor and staff will hold it against you and you'll always be suspect to them.
I don't know, from what he described the process was pretty fucked the whole time, but that is more lawyer territory, I can just say that is way different how we do things
They can put whatever the fuck they want in your chart. Most likely it'll say "patient's urine came up positive for blah blah blah and was then investigated and determined the patient submitted a false urine sample." and at that point you look like a dipshit who got junky urine which must have been better than whatever was in your own junky urine.
The specialist kicked me out. I can't go back if I wanted. I just want to find a way to re-test my urine and have them test for something specific.
Oh, and no there's not really going to be a test they can do on urine to test for gender. Not just because you ask. Best thing they have available is looking for bHCG which will only get you off the hook if the girl is pregnant, which she probably isn't.
This is what I fucking hate. Everyone is a junkie to these places. I didn't smoke even weed up until my last year of college. I smoked week one weekend before my urine test, completely forgot about the test, then had a girl friend of mine pee for me cause I know weed stays in your system for months.
I would've gotten kicked out if I used my urine and didn't even so much as smoke for over a year that I was with that doctor. They make it impossible.
She wasn't. She was on birth control though. Anything for that?
What are you even getting drug tested for?
Nope
How does this benefit user? Is doctor smokin hot or something? It's not like people have access to your medical records outside of their offices or courts. Just chalk it up as a loss and a learn.
The doc I was with tested urine every appt. for any kind of drugs. Like a pain doctor.
that can be tested for though, but that is a crazy specific request, and more chemistry than technician
We get our licenses revoked for giving pain meds to dudes that abuse. It's that simple. Most likely your state is requiring the doc to give the drug test; it's probably not even his/her choice. Live and learn. You took a gamble and it bit you.
Because I want to go to another doc. New doc will see I pissed what she took and that's bad. Very bad. I look like an addict if that happens.
This is the whole reason why I want to prove the pee wasn't mine. Then hopefully it could be considered just a mistake if I played it smart enough. Never say anything like I used someone else's urine, just look, I didn't take what you said I took on my urine test. Re-test that shit and prove it wasn't mine. You didn't even mark my sample until after I left it on the counter.
Sure anything can probably be tested for but that's not a test a doc's office is going to have ever ordered before or be available in their labs without pulling special strings on their part.
that's the reason why I said if he really wanted to push it, its lawyer time and I am not sure its worth it at this point
Just take a less shitty job that doesn't test your urine. What business is it of these stupid pieces of shit what little we enjoy out of life in our free time? And for what? The esteemed privilege of eking out a living at $10/hour. Those people can fuck off really.
Or you can start your own business like I did. I don't test for drugs.
Right. But in order to get them to test for that, he'd have to say "I know that's a girl's urine so check for birth control" and then he'd be admitting to fraud, which is just as bad as the failed test.
You're not going to get a retest. You're getting fired as a patient. You're a liability to them. Don't take it personally.
well I am not sure how they do it at your place, but the handling of the sample was sloppy as hell compared to what I am used to, of course that is going off what he said, but either way its lawyer or gtfo at this point
Either way it's a mistake. Just don't repeat it. Doctor's office is still a business. Someone will want your dough. Hopefully the new doc that takes you will understand. But, my point is, they'll always be weary of you now either way
Yeah I'm just not seeing what going lawyer up even gets you at this point. They can fire a patient for any reason they want. Go to court and prove they violated some kind of protocol for testing urine? Ok. Still fired. Pain medicine state database still says he used to get pain meds from that doc's office and when he goes to the next office and they call the first doc and see why he got fired as a patient - no way in hell do they take him. Game over, even after paying for a lawyer and winning.
I will defer to you on that, as I am not aware what happens on that side of process.
I mean, it's good stuff to know if you're a chronic narcotic user. The Gov is cracking down on pill shops and people are losing their licenses, so everybody is on edge who prescribes this shit.
I don't like it because it takes away the doc's autonomy to decide who needs what and it protocols it and makes shit like state database reporting and urine drug screens a requirement.
You have to consent for records to be released from one doctor to another. It's not like it would show up on your"permanent record".
Can I work for you?
Bro I wish I could hire anyone, but after a string of shitty incompetent retards who risked my entire business I only hire people I know. But I don't give a shit about if they smoke or not. One guy blazes 3 times a day and I still trust him because he's not a thief.
You retard. Wait a long time; then go do whatever stupid shit you're trying to do now.
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Also, does anyone have the rest of this?
Okay you stupid nigger, here is how you can botch up urine tests for the rest of your life.
You can do it a few ways.
What you can do is make your urine so acidic that it basically just fucks the results. You can do this by downing either a few shots of lemon juice or vinegar. And that's the salad/cooking vinegar, not the cleaning vinegar.
I'd say two or three shots are enough, but make sure your bladder is empty when drinking and that you don't take any drugs afterwards, obviously.
Another more or less easy way is to have some bleach powder on your fingertips while taking the test. Let you piss stream graze past your bleach powder covered fingers so that the powder enters the piss vial. That way nothing is traceable.
Source: Had to use this to pass the compulsory urine tests my tennis academy gave all students. I was taking MDMA at the time.