Since you guys like to argue about everything, im just going to leave this here

Since you guys like to argue about everything, im just going to leave this here....

Migrant workers aren't doing jobs that Americans won't do, they are doing jobs that Americans won't do for that much money.

new machiens are almost finished that can do the picking, saving humans from that backbreaking work, they can stay in MX and stay healthy soon.

No American would do a farming job for less than 2.5x Minimum Wage. Even at that, they would only do the job until they find one that isn't a farm job, even if the not-a-farm job pays a little less.

thats a wonderful citation there

smaller farms are needed, not big conglomerates

Migrant worker =/= Illegals

hey dumdass.
Migration in not the issue.
It ILLEGAL immigrations.
If this Mexican want a job in US, The farm owner should request from the State to get this worker to the country LEGALLY.
Of course the farmer owners should should pay some sort of permit tax to get this workers.

Hence a win-win for both sides.

>less than 2.5x Minimum Wage
if a job isn't paying you something you can afford shelter and food and raise a family with, it most definitely isn't worth the pay.

Since u like to argue, im just going to leave this here....

>Not using machine pickers
>Paying Mexicans under minimum wage asking why no Americans would work for them
>Farming
>Getting payed by guberment to stop farming
>Literally baited

and 200 years ago we had people doing that farm work for free....

Checked, and...

>isn't paying you something you can afford shelter and food and raise a family with

Mexicans have been raising LARGE amounts of families here. They are not taking our jobs. If you go to school and get an education, youre good. Illegals dont get educations, therefore cannot take our jobs.

Hey maybe black people want another shot at picking crops.

I highly doubt it. They dont like to work as it is.

Blacks and Mexicans are equally lazy

Farmers are a dying breed of laborer. The old generation and the few that truly know a day's work will go 16+ hours a day.

All the first generation immigrants are desperate and come from hard lives and will do it and live a substandard life. Their second generation are lazy bastards, at least no better than native-born folk who are done after 8 hours and want a comfortable life.

This is why you see thousands of fresh laborers every year and no improvement in the economy. Corporation and technology will officially kill off farmers anyway, so it's all pointless bullshit anyway.

And that's ignoring the fact that supporting cheap foreign labor and illegal migration is supporting human exploitation, trafficking, and basically a soft slave trade. Republicans, Democrats, businesses, special interest groups, and religious organizations are all making money on it.

If you support importing hundreds of thousands of animal labor to exploit that hurts everyone but these greedy assholes, go hang yourself by your dicks and kill yourself.

Well, lets hope those machines teach you how to spell.

K

what if the machiens get tired? who will do the work then?

WTF is this real??

Republicans don't care if vegetables get more expensive, because they don't eat vegetables.

Very very real. This man sleeps with a Hitler book on his nightstand.

My father owned a roofing company and he went out of business because he wouldn't hire illegals. All the competition had a 100% Mexican crew, most of who couldn't even speak English. My dad couldn't match them on price since they pay their workers less than minimum wage and don't follow health and safety codes.

I remember him bitching about it all the time. How companies that used illegals immigrants had an unfair advantage.

A lesson for illegalfags: If you'd just work and stop
>collecting welfare
>wracking up medical bills you never pay
>putting your kids in American schools
>voting
>committing crimes at rates much higher than citizens
and
>being an overall net drain that raises everyone else's taxes
everyone would appreciate your farm work a lot more.

legal americans don't work those jobs for a few reasons:

A) get paid usually in cash, under the table. perfect for anyone who can't open a bank account, but not great for anyone who needs records of employment to pay rent or apply for loans/credit

B) those jobs pay less than minimum wage, offer no benefits, and are quite often seasonal.
even flipping burgers at mcdonalds can at least net you minimum wage and guaranteed hours...

so it's not that they are "taking our jobs". it's that they are bringing down the value of labor, which is starting to transfer into other industries.
first it was agriculture, then they started to pull the same shit in the service industry, and now they are starting to move into heavy industry as well such as construction and manufacturing.

sounds like farms need more robots and automation.

Illegals not needed.

Oooooo i didnt know those existed.

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since you guys like arguing im just going to leave this here...

>cites 6000 jobs
>in a country of 400 million
>with 60 million illegals
kys you nigger loving faggot

Heres a potato harvester for example

>Create business model that isn't viable in economic or employee market
>Demand immigrants be brought in to support your business model

If you can't afford to offer wage rates to attract staff then your business isn't viable
Saying that people from the third world will work under those conditions isn't just rich, it's priceless

Weren't a lot of these undesirable jobs, not all, but most, traditionally done by teenagers until not very long ago?

Basically the left is making more or less the same case for illegal immigration that the salve owners of the old south made for slavery. For example, field work is something only suited for a particular race of people and without slaves, the economy would collapse, etc.

Oh thanks! A Facebook tier meme picture with no citation! That's exactly what is going to solve all of this.

You think free market economics - choosing a trade is the same as Slavery?

You're fucking high man. Get your little candy ass to bed.