Star Trek Beyond Expectations

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Damn. Sad state of affairs for the franchise, but at least the show's getting some traction. I hadn't planned on seeing it, as the first two were pretty weak, but went w/ my 'ol Dad this afternoon. It was only ok to pretty good but easily the best of the three. While I enjoyed JJ's direction, Lin actually provided some amazing action sequences. Great grasp of scale, movement, and what looks cool. The script was just ok, most of the humor fell flat, but the central Krall arc was decent. Even if it was sort of Khan 3.0, it was a better Khan than Into Darkness. Jaylah and Indian crew member a cute.

Anyone else see this flick?

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Headcrabgirl is best girl.

RIP!

That was simultaneously disgusting and pretty cool.

The ayylmao in distress also kinda cute

>the first two were pretty weak
Come on now, the first one was alright.

I guess. The crew and their dynamics were charming, JJ's direction looked nice, but I can't recall much else of interest. Bana's antagonist was really forgettable.

It was the movie that Star Trek: Insurrection (curiously enough, the third TNG movie) wanted to be but fell short of.

I have to say, the shot of the Enterprise traveling at warp and the glory shot introduction of Starbase Yorktown alone were worth the price of admission. Everything else was just gravy.

Star trek ended a long time ago, this is just more shit with a star trek label made purely for cunts like you.

It doesn't matter anymore, star trek is dead, rape the corpse all you like.

Boring shit. After watching a marathon of TNG on Netflix the past 2 days, then watching this shitpiece the difference is night and day.

No moral questions, no diplomatic/political style relationship with other races, no twists, no revelations, nothing. Star Trek should have ended in 2002.

>Insurrection

Trips of truth, I was actually thinking the same thing. Yeah it's cheesy, but a couple moments like the warp shot were pretty awe inspiring. Expected Lin to be a shit director, was really surprised.

I saw it and it's shit. It's boring, the villian sucks, the action sucks, the real life sets, of which there are not many used in the movie, look low quality. the cgi is ok, though. using a certain song as a weapon was absolutely cringeworthy. the dialogs were shit. the chemistry between the 3 main protagonist is only of 20% of the quality of the original kirk, spook and mccoy trio.

No, I think it is the worst one so far. Action scenes were worse. Too much exposition with narrator. An idea to trick swarm was good, but execution - killing aliens by cool song was stupid. They call this thing a bioweapon but dont explain why. Shooting the engine was crazy.
Tickets were cheaper than usual and my local theater was like 80% empty I don't know why.
I think fans will hate it too, because it is constant shooting and crashing.

New Captain will be muslim spreading sharia to galaxy. Uhura will wear full burka.

>second spoiler

dirty traitor, get dunked on!

>No moral questions, no diplomatic/political style relationship with other races, no twists, no revelations, nothing. Star Trek should have ended in 2002.

I don't disagree. The themes that made the series great have long since dissipated from the flicks.

My brother loves these new movies for that really reason. He's a huge Chad, so I can't blame him.

>Sit down in movie theater after getting IMAX 3D tickets. Empty.
>'screen looks small, wtf thanks JewMAX'
>Epilogue begins telling of King Leopold and his exploitation of the Congo
>'Oh god what even is this heavy handed bullshit, Star Trek is done'
>Christoph Waltz mosies onto the screen
>Aaaaand i'm in the wrong theater

DIdnt Picard listen to music? In this film music was spoken about as if it were archaic and out of fashion.

Frankly, TV Trek and movie Trek have always been different beasts, and that you expect them to be the same is your problem. The most beloved Trek movie of them all is nothing but an extended duel set against the backdrop of Kirk fearing getting old. No diplomacy, no politics, no moral questions no other races and the only "revelation" is that serial womanizer Kirk had a bastard son.

Not that user, and I agree, but Khan felt like the first time of maybe questioning the Federation, or a look at the darker side/those left behind? Which has become too common a trope.

The Beastie Boys broke up in 2014 after one of their members died.

Abrams Trek takes place in the late 2200s. By their standards, Sabotage -is- "classical music."

No, I get that. But Scotty straight up dismissed "music" in general, and there were a couple other lines about it being a thing of the past.

Kirk fearing becoming old comes to very core of what Trek is, it's about human condition.

No moral questions? What about Genesis device wiping out all life on planetary scale? Role of military and civilian government when Khan takes over Genesis project under assumed orders from admiral Kirk.

When it comes to big and small screen Star Treks being different, yes, they are different, but ultimately very deeply linked. Best Trek movies are ones that manage to bring some more action or space battles in addition to philosophical and pseudoscientific stuff from tv-Treks. The Wrath of Khan and First Contact are probably best examples of this.

Huge part of humanity considers trash tier words for cents pulp fiction as greatest cultural achievement of mankind. All the crappy detective and scifi stories on holodeck... high culture.

I did that with Into Darkness.

>Why is DiCaprio in a tuxedo? What the fuck planet is this?

>It was only ok to pretty good but easily the best of the three.
LMAO fuck you kid... this shit sucked. Definitely had the biggest 'Trek' feel to it but it was still dumb and boring for most of the movie.

Looks like they're not going to be able to top the first one

Guise
Hey
Isnt it wierd other movies like The Martian or Interstellar step in to try fill the void of thoughtful, grounded sci-fi yet the granddaddy Star Trek is stll treading in campy rubberforehead sci-fi flick territory?

>that gay Sulu reveal
>Kirk looks at the camera and smiles warmly
>next shot lingers as they walk away
>back to Kirk smiling and nodding

Christ I know Star Trek is big on equality and shit and I have no problems with gays, but this would have been less subtle if Sulu was getting tag teamed on the bridge of the Enterprise while the crew cheers them on

I don't expect the films to be the same as the TV series, but I expect the films to at least respect the essence of what has made trek so popular. And the reboots don't do this at all. And ultimately it will fail because it turned its back on what made trek so popular.

Big, dumb shooting and explosions for 120 minutes will not do anything to revive trek. Its sole purpose is to appeal to newcomers that don't care or have the mental capacity to follow storylines like alternative time line episodes or murder-mystery episodes. Or episodes that make you question the moral validity of ones actions.

All these people care about is basic narrow and vague action-orientated plotlines, muh graffix and ebin one liners.

any streams or leaks of it yet?

Nah, Kirk was like "after 3 years in space any ass looks good", nod

You are fucking retards in need of an adult.

It was really mediocre, not sure what I expected from the guy who made fast and furious 3-6.
It took the goofy comedy ending of Mars Attacks and tried to make it le epic coolio shit, the plot stank, the villain had no motivation, the action scenes were horribly shot half of the time etc etc etc

Pretty bland and forgettable. Character interaction was totally flat outside of a few scenes with McCoy and Spock. Villain was crap and after a McGuffin he apparently didn't even need, and his entire hive fleet got wrecked by a Beastie Boys song. It looked nice at times but that's almost standard at this point. Not knowledgeable in anything Star Trek but I doubt anyone is going to remember this movie exists a year from now.

ye I wonder if JJ directing this would've made it a bit better.

Star Trek - 5/10
Into Darkness - 3/10
Beyond - 6/10

>kid

cuute

probably correct

you muh legacy types are the worst. it's not the 60's anymore and nobody want an outer space sitcom where interstellar diplomacy is discussed ad nauseum at some big fucking table.

ITT: We come up with better plots for the movie using the same base elements.

>The Swarm is not commanded by Krall, but an automated defense around Altamid left by that ancient race. Altamid is a Bermuda's Triangle of crashed ships and refugees who explored the nebula and met the Swarm. It took down the Franklin years ago (not 100, maybe 20 years ago), stranding Edison there. He's never a weird mutant, he's human all the time so Idris Elba can actually act.
>Edison grew increasingly paranoid as his crew dwindled, and more races crashed on the planet fighting for survival over resources. He's eventually the only human left and reverts back to his soldier instincts, thriving on conflict and becoming a pirate raiding other camps.
>Edison learns of a control system for the Swarm, and wants to take control of it to be able to leave Altamid. Ultimately, he wants to plunge the Federation back into war so that he will have the place he's long sought.
>Enterprise crashes on planet after Swarm takes them down, they face off against Edison as they hunt for control of the Swarm. Most of the movie is a Flight of the Phoenix deal where they find the Franklin and try to get it flying.
>Kirk, disenchanted with Starfleet and leading, must form a mini-Federation with other stranded aliens and races on the planet, in order to co-operate and repair the Franklin and face off against Edison.
>You don't need the disc weapon that shoots black goo because it's inferior to the Swarm anyway.
>You can still have your big dumb climax with the Swarm and Sabotage song destroying them, whatever.
>If you really need a punch-on with Kirk and Edison, and you still need to use the Yorktown, maybe make it a race to stop Edison from fucking up a peace meeting between Humans and Klingons, or Romulans or whatever.

You are the reason why Hollywood is dying

that was the 90s TNG. the original was mostly the Kirk-Spock-Bones id-ego-superego triumvirate arguing a course of action.

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>>that gay Sulu reveal

I like to think that was just Sulu's brother and niece

Yeah I wish there was more conversation between the actually clear ideological difference between Krall and the Federation.
Just one conversation of Krall justifying his stance. "massive central governments breed corruption!" Just anything. But thoughtful conversations seem to not be allowed in hollywood cinema.

>The most beloved Trek movie of them all is nothing but an extended duel set against the backdrop of Kirk fearing getting old.
>most beloved Trek movie
You rang?

>Chekov is great in Star Trek Beyond

Seeing this movie made me really sad Anton died.

you probably think Chris Nolan's Batman would have been better off if they were running around in spandex carrying giant cartoon bombs.

This movie isn't trying to be Search for Spock? Is there a Pon'Farr plot element, or did they try to make it original?

Exactly. Just like in many forms of entertainment now there has been a shift away from debate on societal morality and values, federation code and humanity as a whole moving forward and tackling philosophical challenges on the way, to more focus on le individual journey WILL KIRK LIVE UP TO DADS EXPECTATIONS AND GET DA GURL?? Like who fucking cares, I need context, I need full understanding of the universe you are portraying, I need ideas and backstory, sub plots and other races and their ideas and what they want. What does the romulans actually want to accomplish, what does humanity plan to accomplish?

But no, these big ideas and stories are gone, and now we're getting daddy's boy drama shit about innocuous day to day life shit nobody cares about

Same. His scenes, his joyous final moments at the party, the dedication. Really sad

Kirk macking chicks is classic and frankly I was disappointed he didn't get some in Beyond. Shoulda been Jaylah

Nope

Yeah I thought that too. They're all Japanese, but it's kind of weird for him to be that attached to his niece.
Yeah. I don't care for TNG. And I like 60s Trek.
I want there to be discussions about complex ideas but I don't want to watch a circlejerk about them.
Innocuous. That's the problem. Star Trek should take controversial stances on things and be inflammatory.

Literally me w/ the first nuTrek

>Jessie Eisenberg is in this?
>Kristen Stewart?
>funky 70s music and dude weed lmao?

I was already too late to see it in the right theater at that point so i stuck w/ adventureland lol

The extra focus on Bones and having uhura captured for half of it was great. It was bullshit for JJ to push her over him

Was actually pretty good, better than the second one 7/10

Here is your (You) but I still didn't bother reading it

Jaila was a CUTE!

I thought this film was going to be utter dogshit but im actually going to go watch this again.

She was so cute and they didn tmake her part of some feminist fucking agenda, brilliant

Who got a little emotional at Ambassador Spock's passing and ToS photo here?

That was a nice little moment actually. That's how referencing old trek should look. Not what they did in Into Darkness.

Yea that actually got me more than expected great timing with the music and serenity of the whole scene, fucking brilliant.

I was hella skeptical about this film but ive been proven wrong, the only thing fucked up was the faggotry of sulu embracing that fag of his but that can be overlooked because overall the cute alien bitch was cute

how are they going to work in Hemsworth again next flick, time travel shenanigans I assume? Flashback?

Where should the franchise go? A morally ambiguous war movie with the Klingons would be cool down the road but i'd love for some exploration, Stagecoach kinda set up. A strange journey with colorful characters.

The getting to know the girl alien was cool
The photo moment was emosh
The characters were well rounded
Bones was great as comic relief
Kirk was great
Spock was good
No feminist
Great fights

Film was pretty based tbqhfams

WTF how?!

Franchise should probably bring in known races now like Klingons. But would have to be done well.

Maybe some new holodeck/AI story or something?

Jaylah's hard light hologram tech stuff was pretty dank. As played out as the Enterprise crashing is Kirk sliding down it and just the sense of scale and place with the ship was handled well.

I really really liked Kirk's motorcycle goggles and jacket. They looked great.

Actually you nailed it pretty well the sense of scale was brilliant, there were some shots where I was like why wasnt fucking Warcraft like this?

Like when they jo to jailers 'house', the forest scene showing the canyons was fucking epic

It was so cheesy I couldnt help but like it. And the last second transporter grab was awesome.

t. Pretentious faggot

Same happened to me at star wars, only I walked in to the Han getting stabbed. Granted I was high as fuck.

Her character is named and modeled after Jennifer Lawrence.

wtf i love Jlaw now

DUDE

Even George Takei himself thinks Sulu being gay is bullshit

well i prefer this alien bitch tbf

Nope, but they cast Kirk's father for the next film meaning they're going to do some time travel bullshit IV style

>everyone else says George is old and clearly still oppressed and he should be glad that gays are getting a bone at all

Makes me mad senpai. What disrespect.

I love that kinda shit.

Shame the Nu-Enterprise is inaccurately huge, though.

>The shots panning over the Yorktown space station

Very nice

The spacestation shit was fucking Kino!

In fact this whole film was Beyond kino!

You are legit retarded if you thought that shot was trying to shoe in gay equality. Kirk is captain, and with that come loneliness, particularly after 3 years on their mission. Chekov walks off with his lady, and then Sulu walks away with his family, leaving Kirk standing there alone with no one to greet him.

Am I the only one who hates the Yorktown?

It looks DS9 seem like a fucking tomato

>Kirk's character arc is that he is bored of peace and by the end of the film learns that the only time he feels alive is when the lives of millions are in peril and he can feel like a hero
>Bad guy's motivations are that he fought people in the military and he can't fight people in star fleet so he decides to use a superweapon that genocides people instead of just fighting them
>Pegg exploits Leonard Nemoy's death to use as a plot point and character development for Spock but it leads absolutely nowhere
>The crew is immediately separated as soon as they arrive so there is absolutely no time for them to grow and develop as characters by interacting with each other so they spend most of the film dicking around
>The Enterprise travels through the dangerous nebula with very little effort and in apparently no time at all
>At the end of the film drone fighter ships apparently have warp drives since they too seem to be able to bypass the dangrous nebula very quickly
>Bad guy is against unity yet his entire army is composed of drones
>Good guys argue that unity is good but the drone army's unity is the very thing that defeats them in the end
>An alien elf girl and a scotsman are able to repair a several hundred year old space ship by the time it takes the plot to move forward even though at the end of the film a time lapse shows an entire crew building a new enterprise
>the Franklin has to be dropped off a cliff to go to the atmosphere for some reason
>they ripped off Mars Attacks to beat the bad guys

>Kirk somehow thinks that a desk job as a rear-Admiral is more fulfilling than traveling around in a space-ship
>bad guy with a crew of 2 for some reason is able to take over planet full of mining operation drones who somehow have life rejuvenating powers that turn you into an alien for some reason
>The bad guy drone ships don't detect the Franklin's energy signatures when it takes off during the middle of them all leaving to attack the Yorktown even though the Franklin only had a visual cloak
>Alien elf girl's revenge subplot with the subcommander is never resolved
>Alien elf girl does not use clever tricks to beat alien subcommander like it was established earlier and instead just punches him
>Large chunks of boring action scenes and nothing happened in the movie so when the film remembered that it had to wrap up some character arcs it did it all in the last 2 minutes.

Can we agree that this is the most retardest movie ever? No wonder the film starts out with a video of Simon Pegg personally apologizing.

Good movie. The scene where they first show Yorktown is one of the best uses of 3D I've ever seen. The pacing was a little rough and there wasn't enough backstory presented to explain the twist, but I enjoyed myself throughout. Best blockbuster of 2016 so far IMO.

Even in DS9, DS9 was a fucking tomato. An old ass piece of shit relic of an earlier war held together by hopes and dreams and a higher than average amount of torpedo launchers

Why didn't Krall know where the USS Franklin is? Wasn't it his ship?

>Pegg exploits Leonard Nemoy's death to use as a plot point and character development for Spock but it leads absolutely nowhere
I disagree senpai

>Spock sees Old Spock's photo of the TOS crew
>realizes this means that deep down Old Spock missed those days with the crew and regrets leaving to be an ambassador
>so Spock decides to stay with the crew instead

He had already gutted it for parts previously which Jayla was repairing/reinstalling, why would he need it otherwise?

I loved the whole enterprise v swarm "fight". The fact that they tried to warp, the swarm took out the nacelle pylons, they reroute warp power to the impulse engines, the swarm cuts the link from the drive section to the saucer, they try to detatch the saucer and manage to crash-land instead of the ship being outright destroyed.

That kind of super specific nerdy as hell progression of stakes and how the crew reacts is so classic Star Trek that it blew me away. That whole sequence is probably the best thing in the movie and most people will overlook it.

>best trek shit
>boring

Maybe trek isn't for you.

wasn't bad, a lot better than into darkness
I snickered when idris elba snuck his way into the movie

Krall being the Franklin captain was a huge leap and I don't get why he was turning back at the end.

He either should have been human from the beginning(and turned it into a heart of darkness thing, maybe) or just kept being a crazy alien

He's one of my favorite people but he really needs to just shut up. People are allowed to adapt and change characters and making sulu gay as a tribute isn't a big deal. So kelvin-timeline sulu is gay, who gives a fuck. Kelvin-timeline Kirk is clinically retarded and you don't see people making a big stink about it.

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>So kelvin-timeline sulu is gay
>this means being gay is a choice affected by events and not something you're born as

If they didn't want to honor Takei's input on Sulu being gay then why did they even ask him? Nobody should be fucking surprised he got a little mad about it

For all we know the black hole time travel disruption scrambled his midichlorians and suddenly made him lust after dicks.

When he feeds on people the process reverses. They said that.

I was thoroughly entertained, but my older brother hated it and said he liked the second one better, which made me question his taste but also makes me fear this movie won't be liked by general audiences despite a director of the people like Lin

the Sabatoge part was just pure dumb exciting bliss

>Riding a wave of spaceships leaving a wake of explosions to the Beastie Boys
I like it but this is a Star Trek movie.