Why are there no good lyricists anymore?

Why are there no good lyricists anymore?

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Joanna Newsom is arguably the best of all time. Kozelek was top 10 during early RHP.

Bob Dylan isn't even good, dont' care what retarded Swedish academics have to say

There hasn't been a good lyricist since Hofmannsthal

Were either of them good?

what this guy says, even if a bit hyperbolic both Joanna and Koz are great

people suck him up like crazy, but he's fairly deserving of that imho.

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Leonard Cohen is OK, but only OK. He's probably the only passable popular music lyricist

what the fuck are you talking about?

JOanna Newsom is almost as good as Leonard Cohen but still not actually good

There aren't any good rap lyricists. Some are sporadically amusing though

i agree although Koz pulled no punches on April and had some of the best lyrics of his career


>see: Tonight the Sky

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what is this then

>tooooniiiight
>the skieees
>will open for you
>mountains aaaaand
>and big clouds
>divide us in two

No one reads anymore. If they do it is Harry Potter and freeverse garbage.

Nice. Thought me, an user in a sharethread a few months ago and an Austrian cripple were the only people who knew Listener on Sup Forums.

That's my favorite song by them as well.

lyricism har become solipsistic and humorless

>I met my fallen Angel one last time
>I promised always through me she would shine
>I held her hands, I sunk into her heart
>Till powers unrelenting, pulled us apart

I never had a album/song pull my to tears till i heard April.

Because they're all in Americana and Sup Forums don't fuck with Country.

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>Joanna Newsom is arguably the best of all time

Sup Forums gets worse and worse every day.

No, they are overrated, and purely because they are Jewish and the media is Jewish

A Jew loves to give praise to another

She sometimes has unique metaphors/wordplay and doesn't descend into cliches too often. WHich sadly puts her above 99.99999999999999999% of lyricsts today

Yes, they're both among the greats. I'm honestly not sure who the contrarians in this thread think is so much better than them.

She probably doesn't have enough output to be reasonably considered best of all time but she's a master lyricist.

I found it through a sharethread on Sup Forums in july-august 2016, basically the only time I found a band that I liked alot through those, through listener i also got into ramshackle glory

I judge all popular music lyricists against German Romantic poets

Sufjan Stevens is the best though

hes not even the best stevens

Dylan is considered so good that he was awarded the "Nobel Prize in Literature" in 2016.
to my knowledge the first and only lyricist to be recognized with so high an honor.

I dunno, I've heard Hallelujah, and I guess I see why it's a classic. I've also heard Suzanne and it was top cringe.

They're all moving to rap since it's the best way to express lyrical creativity. Even metal/rock vocalist are doing it.

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Cohen should have won though

Rabindranath Tagore wrote songs

I might've been the one sharing it, ha. Was it the guy asking people to tell him jokes for an album? I also shared some of Pat's stuff, including Ramshackle Glory.

I love Sufjan's music, and he can write one hell of a moving song, but I'd not call him a *master* lyricist.

How about pic related?

Was he even nominated or considered by the Swedish Academy?

We'll find out in like 50 years

No idea, but Cohen is a better lyricist so he should have won

mewithoutYou is the best out there.

You can't win if you are not nominated.

Greatest lyricist of all time

Phil might be the best lyricist out right now.
He is a master of memetics in his lyrics and music for sure

>I've heard a lyricist's two most popular songs, I am qualified to give my opinion on his ability

Dylan didn't win the prize because his lyrics are worthy of literature (they're not). You should read up on the politics of that prize.

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>Angel Olsen
>Sarah Midori
>Frank Ocean

>Sufjan "Motherfucking" Stevens
>John Darnielle

Are you telling me he fucked his mother?

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>>John Darnielle
wana know how i know you're an angsty nu-male teen?

It would explain a lot.

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Why does Sup Forums always have to use the least creative insults possible

>Not appreciating the Mountain Goats

I feel sorry for you, sweetheart.

>he hasn't browsed /jp/ or /qa/

Aaron Weiss

So what is your conclusion as to why he won?