>Roger Ebert, who later included the film in his list of Great Movies,[42] retrospectively noted that in his original review he had "described a four-star movie, but only gave it three stars, perhaps because it was a 'Spaghetti Western' and so could not be art"
What a clown of a movie critic
Is this what people are gonna say avout BvS in 20 years.
we don't hate BvS because it's capeshit, we hate BvS because it's shit
Oh no a whole star.
All critics are a joke
roger ebert was a tard, this is known. This isn't news. Whether something is or isn't art is both meaningless and completely subjective.
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How the fuck do movie critics even get famous
They contribute nothing to the world, if I want a movie rating I'll just look at the average user score and decide for myself
Sup Forums will never stop trusting film critics because it's easier than thinking.
Yep, cause we all know Pulp Fiction and the Shawshank Redemption are the greatest films of all time.
did you even read the op? That's not what I was talking about
I'm guessing you just get "IMDB film packs"
I nearly threw up from laughter
Imdb is arguably the best meter as to whether a flick is enjoyable or not, ignoring quality or depth or merit if you just want an enjoyable flick it's the best
>he's actually serious
>he's actually a retard
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Fuck Ebert, he was always a mong. I'm glad his face finally reflected his mind.
This, Ebert knee-jerked in the wrong direction anytime a movie did (or didn't, but he imagined it did) have anything to do with American race relations.
High Plain Drifter>Il Buono, il Brutto, il Cattivo
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>Muhammad Ebert (Roger Ebert's great-grandson), who later included Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice in his list of Great Movies,[42] retrospectively noted that in his original review he had "described a four-star movie, but only gave it three stars, perhaps because it was a 'Capeshit' and so could not be art"
I don't remember anyone making a big deal about this when it came out. What's so offensive about it?
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Before internet there were these things called news papers and people used their critics opinion as tool to decide what film they should waste their time and money for.
Ratings of almost every relatively new movie are inflated as fuck. They should simply ignore votes given immediately after release once enough time has passed, like 3 or 5 years.
Once Upon Time in the West > both.
>we
>We the not 27%
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Why do so many people say that OUaTinW is better than tG,tB,tU? I seriously cannot understand these people. GBU's soundtrack is amazing, the story is more interesting and the actors are way better. Charles Bronson is the Steven Seagal of westerns. While Clint Eastwood, Lee van Cleef and especially Eli Wallach are amazing. Seriously tell me why.
ebert did this a lot, he did the same thing with once upon a time in the west.
he was basically following the pack of critics back then, they all hated spaghetti westerns. once these movies become classics he changed his opinion like a fucking worm.
he was a fat cocky cunt and i'm glad he's dead
>Why do so many people say that OUaTinW is better than tG,tB,tU?
Because it is. For a Few Dollars More is better than The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly as well.
Stop being a pleb.
I know that you people think that. I asked why do you think that, I told you why I think GBU is better, now tell me why you think it isn't. I genuinely want to know, because so many people have said that and I just don't understand.
I feel I'd respect Ebert more if he hadn't written those B-movie scripts. Why did he feel he was entitled to shit on bad movies when he wrote stuff like that himself?
GBU wastes time with unneeded scenes and dialogue that add nothing to the plot and detract from the experience. What's the point of Tuco's brothers or the stupid Civil War battle? Nothing at all. It's padding and it's weak. Further, the villain just doesn't feel like much of a villain or challenge. El Indio is actually a wicked, evil, and tormented man. He's something to be feared and defeated. Angel Eyes is just a soldier looking for money.
So simply, OUATIW and FAFDM are more refined yet have all the strong acting, sound track, and cinematography that you praise, but with even stronger plots and characters.
Once upon time deconstructs western in many ways. Starting with heroes.
Better pacing, slowly moving nearly silent scenes that end up in sudden violence.
>Charles Bronson is the Steven Seagal of westerns. While Clint Eastwood, Lee van Cleef and especially Eli Wallach are amazing. Seriously tell me why.
Kek. Leone and casting tends to be lulzworthy subject.
>Leone originally offered the role of Harmonica to Clint Eastwood; when he turned it down, Leone hired Charles Bronson who had originally been offered and turned down the part of the Man with No Name in A Fistful of Dollars. James Coburn was also approached for Harmonica, but demanded too much money.
Westerns were dying genre at the time. Once upon time is a movie about death of old west and civilization coming in with railroad.
Which is why he got cancer and died.
>wuz
A lot of Eberts decisions were jaw dropping, frankly.
I dunno, they always left me with something to chew on
>craticz
>kangz
Why did roger Egbert always think he was the authority on what is art or not?
The definition of art is something like, something created by someone they can evoke an emotional response from an outsider viewing it.
So technically all movies are art, whether they're high art or bad art is up for debate on a film to film basis, but it's still fucking art.
>Imdb is arguably the best meter
it's essentially what the common plebs think you dumb fuck. Not even memeing at this point
>it's essentially what the common plebs think you dumb fuck. Not even memeing at this point
What common plebs think is usually quite close to truth. The biggest flaw in it is that score for new movies tend to be way too high as people vote immediately after seeing it in theaters and hype/shilling for movie is still going on. It doesn't tell will the movie stand test of time, is still relevant after just after few years.
I was overjoyed when I heard on Sup Forums that this charlatan had finally died, but I was also saddened by the fact that he hadn't suffered that much before deciding that he could insult film criticism no longer. The pain and suffering that he went through is only a fraction of the evil that he inflicted on the millions of cinematically illiterate teenagers. When I found out that the old fart had finally decided to not assault the public with his adolescent approach to art, I pulled off the framed picture of Armond White from my wall, kissed it reverently, and immediately embarked on a Korine marathon. Good riddance, you jawless hack.
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>he thinks movies is art
>he thinks chinese cartoons are art.
>Why is there a loaded cannon there?
>How did Blondie know it was loaded?
>Art
Ennio Morricone gives me erections harder than diamonds
Tuco arriving at cemetery>Final duel
So he was a libtard?
>Charles Bronson is the Steven Seagal of westerns.
Fuck you, Charles Bronson wasn't an amazing actor but he could perfectly play stoic badasses. Even when Seagal plays stoic badasses his acting is laughably terrible.
>What's so offensive about it?
Probably because it had an American President acting like a badass against foreign terrorists. I dunno. I didn't see it in theaters, but now I'm curious.
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>Gruel Britannia
Muh sides
Roger Ebert would fucking love BvS. He gave Watchmen a 4/4 and said he was planning on seeing it again. The man loves Hack Snyder
>What a clown of a movie critic
So being able to acknowledge that your taste can change and finding yourself growing and reconsidering movies and your opinion of them makes you a "clown?"
That makes him honest as fuck. Imagine if you still had exactly the same pov and taste that you had 10 years ago, OP. You'd be here posting about how great Dora the Explora is.
>muh art
Even when they perform public killings and mass shootings on now daily basis, it's still a no no to make Muslims the bad guys.
he was also on a lot of drugs at that time due to all the surgeries
once his jaw was removed he was too fucked up to do anything. if you read his reviews during that time you'd realize half the time it seems like he couldn't even follow the plot of the movies and would get easily confused
his opinion was usually shit anyway
Critics are retarded manchildren.
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le ebin kino. you can really see how many other fucks copied leones shit.
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