Is it possible to develop a friendship into a romantic relationship?

Is it possible to develop a friendship into a romantic relationship?
If you befriend them first are you already fucked?
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I've turned friendships into casual fuckbudies but never a full blown relationship

in every friendship relationship (men and girl) atleast one of them feel thing for the other(in romantic ways).

It's how u have my gf now. Found her when I played a match of DotA and she added me on steam. Found out she lived like 10 minutes away from me. Invite her to go to a concert with our entire DotA group (12 people) and we all became fast friends. Fast forward 2 years and I ask her on a date.
Anything can happen user.
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Whats your mmr?

Yes, it's possible. My best relationship blossomed from a friendship.

stay friends... party, party... it will happen, a few margaritas, her inhibitions lower... and you are there for her... then you will wind up in bed together.. this works.

Yup. Those are the best relationships to have. You just have to prepare yourself for the friendzone a lot, since your friends may not have the same feelings.

Could you elaborate a bit more? I need ideas
Any ways I can tell if she feels attracted too?

Like a friendship with a dormant, underlying chemistry happening all the time? Yeah sure, why not?

so fucking beta

Don't be a thirsty cunt and it'll probably happen naturally if you're around each other long enough. Unless you're massively overweight/hideously deformed and are awkward about it. Then the most you can hope for is maybe pity sex if you can get her drunk or high enough

Are you 14? You sound like you're 14.

No im 7

can you develop eros from agape? maybe
can you develop agape from eros? probably

I've had 3 full on(as in not just one time or fuckbuddy deals) relationships and all 3 started as just friends. The only problem with it is eventually you will run yourself out of friends through the breakups if you aren't careful.

Do you play mid?

perhaps a bit... just trying to help out OP

... i have always had GF's and would use this theory on her friends.. i was a bad BF, cheated on every GF i ever had.

Congrats on having the maturity of someone twice your age bro. Way to be

Thanks man, being an atheist at my age feels so alone. I'm just glad I have r/atheism there for me

Easy have a big dick and be disinterested in them. Treat them like a fellow bro like they aren't even on your radar in terms of fuckability. They'll get thirsty as fuck in no time.

4.7k right now. Haven't played much since 7.00 though. 4 games since it dropped

Make a move, if you get turned down then move on. Don't string yourself along.

Find a hobby for yourself and be passionate about. I played DotA religiously after work every day. Then I got semi casual but still pretty serious and found her in one of my games.
Find things that she likes to do and try them out.

Offlane 95% of the time. Not a fan of mid but I can play a decent safelane. Yes, I know how to support as well.

it's work for me

this guy knows

Totally possible. Just have one too many drinks with them. Happened for me sorta.

> best friend and I got drunk at bar party
> bring her to her place as usually
> made out the whole cab ride
> make it up to her apt and into her bed
> my pants are off, coat still on
> she's full on naked and says "fuck me"
> both still wicked drunk
> fingering her and she keeps saying "fuck me"
> got whiskey dick and she's nodding off
> give into drunkenness and give up
> wake up wicked hungover still in coat, no pants, dick out. she's still naked
> we laugh, make out a bit, too hungover to fuck, smoke, she orders mcdonalds breakfast, watch superjail and strangers w/ candy
> still best friends, both still try to make moves, but haven't been that drunk since then/two months ago

Just don't let it get to the friendzone. That'll fuck with you dude. Link related:
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If you aren't friends with the person, a relationship can't work.

possible? yes. but highly unlikely. the friendzone isn't some idea that just manifested out of thin air. it is real.

Some girls will expect you to do this, but won't make it easy or give clues as to how they want you to do it. I sure hop it doesn't blow up in your face, OP. And just so you know, you should always risk losing a friend if it means gaining a girlfriend.

i tried this once, and our friendship turned to shit..

This

Yes but you have to become more attractive and change how you act towards them. Also, tell them about a girl you kind of like. Makes them jealous.

^^^^^^^^

^^^

Last two relationships I was in we were friends first.

a romantical relationship that is not built on friendship is retarded, end of story. if you cant be friends then you cant be in love

Yes because that's the point of this thread right you dumb fuck

getting them jealous only attracts bad females
manipulation is good for short term
long term requires attentive care

Well, my situation is a bit fucked, i dont know, maybe some anons can give me their advice

I went out with this chick for a few months when we were 18, took her to the beach one time and we started kissing/feeling eachother up in the water, we got horny so we went to my place but i was too anxious to get it up, she was a bit offended and left, then we broke up cause she left for college


Very, very long story short we kept meeting over the years every now and then, one time we went out, got drunk and she invited me back to her place but i refused (cause i was an anxious retard), another time we actually got to her place and we watched a movie but i didnt put the moves on and i just left at the end of the night, etc.


We didnt talk for about a year or so after that, now we just went out a few days ago and had a few drinks cause it was her birthday, and she told me she now has a boyfriend and lives with him too.


So what the fuck, did i go from getting her naked when we were younger to the biggest friendzone ever? We live in the same city now and she's always met up with me when i asked her but she never gave me any sign shes interested anymore.


I am convinced i love her, none of my ex gfs made me feel how she makes me feel and i didnt even actually fuck her, i just love being around her and i love her for her personality. Whats my next move? She doesnt seem to be in love with her current guy. We're both 27 btw

get yourself checked for ed

dont become friends first. its a trap. had feelings for this femanon back in high school, never wanted to ruin our friendship but she knew how i felt. depression and anxiety are a bitch.

Friend zone is permanent. Even if you climb out it will only because her rationale mind might see accept you as a provider or longer term mate. The breeder in her will still be hungry for the chemistry that she lacks with you - otherwise you wouldn't be in the friend zone.
Can accept that she might always crave some fire elsewhere ?

fucked a friend grrl flirted with me for years
fell in love
felt like marriage after six weeks
dumped her
fucked up all related friendships
first grill to lick my asshole
still call it a win

Friends becoming "in love" fuck-mates only happens in the movies.

Bullshit. There is a difference between a good partner and a bad one but every girl has that shy teen inside of them. It's just a harmless push when you say you find other girls attractive. It's honest anyway.

Hasn't a girl ever made you feel insecure when they mention they like another guy? And are you a bad person?

I was 4 year best friend with my wife

If you have to ask on Sup Forums

You will never escape the friend zone.

And what exactly is wrong with being seen as a longer term mate? I don't think you're grasping for what op is going for.

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You cool with her fucking someone of the side? Or has she permanently taken a vow to abstain from passion?

i fucked around a lot and have had like 3 LTRs, dick works fine, just didnt with her cause i was overwhelmed at how awesome she seemed to be

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Oh my god are you fucking naive
Your stupid mind games are just going to push her away
To keep her, you must tend to her, even if she tries to push you away
YOU MUST NEVER "PUSH"
To make a solid impression for her to like you is to have positive experiences
what you're doing is childish
you probably have issues with your parents

That's how I got 100% of my relationship.
I don't actually believe there's another way.

and there goes that maturity level.

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Pretty much how all my serious relationships started, including my wife.

How the fuck else are you supposed to build a lasting relationship on any other kind of foundation?

>And what exactly is wrong with being seen as a longer term mate? I don't think you're grasping for what op is going for.
Actually I'm not making that judgement. I've let my wife fuck around with her old boyfriend because she seemed to need some passion and she seemed to be resisting the norms of a long term stable relationship.

BS. It's a balance of both throughout your time with them.

Give too much attentive care, they'll walk all over you/try to control you and you'll push yourself further into the friendzone. Get them jealous too often, they'll start losing confidence around you and as a result won't want anything, but the slightest verbal confidence boost and no physical activity.

Give them just the right amount of care/attention to let them know you give a shit and that you're reliable/trustworthy, but then make them jealous just enough to let them know your confidence level/that you don't need them and could easily move on.

Girls are about trying to keep a guy grounded, in the sense that they're trying to hold onto you, as well as trying to mold you to their wants/needs aka manipulate and control you. Keep both at near distance or risk losing a sense of self, losing them, and/or being pushed into the friendzone completely.

so, drugs. she's your whore. got it.

Yes, it is possible.
I had friends that I later dated and I met girls that I "befriended" in order to date them (altough I refered to this as "playing the long game")

you're over complicating it
"dominance" what you're doing is going after girls with parent issues, those club girls
sad life user, its okay, you'll get better
what you say only works hypothetically and if actually implemented, short term relation ship no more than 4-5 years
sit down with your mom and have a good talk
you need it

there is a VERY slim chance. the first thing you have to do is cut off most contact. if you see her every day make it once a week. when she asks why you don't see her you tell her you started dating someone. its even better if you actually are. don't get hung up op, be an alpha. here-

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Yes; I later married her.

>only if you are chad and you friendzoned her


Oke i am going to give it too you straight.
You are masturbating way to much, /b is flooded with porn.
Nothing but lonely losers ejaculating excessively, destroying their testosterone levels.
Our only weakness , porn.
After ejaculation you are calmed you are made docile and lose all motivation.
This needs to stop, this is the reason our birth rates dwindle.
This is the reason why /b turned weak , we are all contempt wankers, drained of our manly juices that makes us /b.
We let our guard down now tumbler ctr and reddit have grown in numbers ,they made us weak with this infection of porn.
It is time we put our sperm in nothing but jars or women, no more little swimmers waisted on webm`s.
No more ejaculation unless it is for the cause of /b.
It is time for discipline, It is time we make /b great again, It its time we stop masturbating with out a cause.
/b unite ,Abstain , Return to your natural form of frustration, hate, contempt and anger.

Your mission , no masturbation for 9 days too reach the maximum amount of testosterone in your system.
This will also flush the build up oestrogen out of your system and reduce your bitch tits.

Do not watch any porn.
Sexual stimulus causes the prostate to produce prostate fluid that over time becomes a carcinogen.

If you roll dubs or higher in this thread you get a 7/10 gf, trips gives you a 7,5/10 gf etc.
If you already have a gf you get a second one.

roalling

OK op here thanks for all the advice and just to clear something up I met her like 10 days ago because I'm changing social circle, im just wondering what route to go

Dominance works. It's about testing the ratio per person that matters. Your advice only leads to getting fucked over and eventually your girl posting in search of a BBC to cuck you, due to your inadequate member and mental state.

If they come running to you every time they need an ear or reassurance, and you're always there to embrace them with a tip of your fedora, fucking rainbows flying out of your ass, and laying in a bed of roses, then you're a fucking fool to expect any more than the friendzone, nevermind a worthwhile relationship. Even if it does work, expect to be controlled by the dangling carrot for sex, and your checking to be milked as a result.

For the record, I've been in a happy and healthy relationship for about 7 years now, and my strategies have yet to fail.

I have a lot of female friends. I've slept with most of the attractive ones.
It's surprisingly easy, as long as your not a total spazz.
Im 40, so maybe it's more to do with my age. I dunno.
Anyway, I'm going to go fuck a 21 year old half black chick this afternoon. I'm know her parents and the rest of her family. So we're not super close friends, but good enough that I can drop a load in her every now and then.

So what do you do if a girl keep asking to help her and you don't want to come across a fedora getting friendzoned? Like, ignore her once in a while or what?

It's been my experience with male/female friendships that one usually likes the other more than a friend, or at least wants to bone. That said if you're the guy and friends with a girl, you've probably been friendzoned and have no chance at romance with her.

same here

This. You'd be surprised how many women are open to "friends with benefits".

These guys get it. In the end your initial sexual urge will subside and you'll get used to her beauty and you're left with her personality. If you only like her for her looks and a friendship never formed then you're fucked.

simple, tell her your busy, other commitment, etc.. let her know perhaps you could help in the future

No, don't ignore them, but make situations feel like they're reciprocal.

Even something like texting. You texted them setting up plans last time, well then wait to communicate with them until they hit you up to make plans. If they ask why you haven't responded, tell them you've been busy with other plans. Better yet, tell them you've been wrapped up with your hobby. Women seem to see the quality in a guy who has a passion they want to pursue, which makes them desire that person more. It shows you care about something bigger than yourself.

If you go out on a date, dinner or drinks, treat when it's not expected and take initiative. If you arrive at a bar, right off the bat ask them what they want and get it for them. Don't hesitate. As you start seeing each other more and more make sure you both split the bill, but treat every other date or so.

Another user in this thread is making people out to sound like heartless assholes. Fuck him, I'm not saying to be an asshole. You want to be affectionate, but let that only be subtle in conversation and more apparent in a more intimate setting such as her/your apt. Some place that isn't public. In public ask her about herself and speak to topics of mutual interest.

Again don't ignore them dude. That'll just get them worked up and question shit. Just put time in between communication. Time apart makes the heart yearn.

Roll

Also forgot to say, manners and politeness go a long way. Always be a gentleman, but be a little crass if it's acceptable/that's your thing.

chill dude, was friends with a girl for three years. me and my ex went out with her and her ex many times and one day we found ourselves both single and things escalated from there!

Just be the kind of thing that girls dig and you will be allllrighty

get this virgin shit outta here

No, you can be friends, maybe not super best buddies but you can be good friends without wanting a relationship.

My wife and I were friends for a couple of years before we started dating, but I will grant you that when we became friends we were both in other relationships and the second we were both single we started fucking and we were definitely thinking about fucking each other while in our other relationships.

So short answer: it does happen, long answer: if you're both single when you become friends or otherwise have no reason not to be boning immediately and you aren't fucking, you will probably never be.

Befriending them is a pretty basic start and that phase doesn't last very long if you aren't a weak willed bitch. You can be the kindest little fucking flower in the goddamn universe at heart and have it impact nothing negatively if you aren't a bitch. If you are kind and a bitch you will be used and walked on. Kindness isn't taken advantage of if you aren't a bitch and they know intuitively you'll throw it right the fuck back if they try and pull some shit.

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No, no its not.

Ugh if you're trying to befriend her so you can pull the old switcheroo on her just give up now and kill yourself. That kind of snivelly shit is why women don't trust men.

Dubs

dude just fuckin git it on son stop delaying

Yes, but you have to cut all contact with her for about 3 months in order to reset the "friend" status.
Even so it's not guaranteed, when you return you must come with a completely different approach, you must come as a tease, not hanging out with her that much, make her see you as a man not boy-(who's-also-a)friend.

friends are the best relationships

1. you already know how they tick
2. there's no pressure for them to divulge a number of deep/dark secrets (which people in relationships with them would never know)
3. you've likely seen them at their worst and vice versa, so few surprises

so if it blossoms into a relationship you already know each other well.. if both people want it, why the fuck not?

Ya, she is now my wife.

If you hang out a couple of times, and she doesn't seem interested, she's not gonna become interested.

Then in 3 months you're the faggot on here posting how he got friendzoned.

Thanks, Sup Forumsroses. So basically to keep them on their toes, be there for them but at the same time don't do every single stupid thing. That makes sense and is what I've heard before.

I've got a friend and she tells me that I'm bit of dick sometimes (not really meant in a bad way) but also "a sweetie" to cite her. Like, I help her with school shit but sometimes I just flat out say no or "I don't know" because I cba.

Agreed on being a gentleman.