Suck for everyone actually. Are you the one who made the Beyonce thread?
Liam Bell
hahaha, get the dick out of your ass faggot, stop role playing the janitor you pathetic fuck
James Roberts
found the non-patrician
Landon Howard
Just downloaded all of Bartok's string quartets on a whim and am flipping out over them. Never heard any of his other work. Where should I go next?
Ayden Reyes
He's only really slow on his EMI records.
Christian Williams
Piano Concertos.
Adam Flores
Mingus is the only serious composer in jazz, although there's something to be said for Bill Evans realization of a chamber music within the genre.
The rest of jazz is chin-scratching wank, expressionist victimhood vomit, or muzak.
Joshua Garcia
Why do you hate orangutans? What did we ever do to you?
James Miller
Cantata Profana and Bluebeard's Castle
Zachary Ortiz
Monk composed lots of standards that used lots of dissonance.
Anthony Sanchez
Where should I start with Mozarts' operas, recording-wise?
Daniel Evans
Did we adopt /jazz/?
Sebastian Diaz
Depending on which period Monk is equally muzak or chin-scratching. Definitely an important step towards producing something finally tolerable though (Mingus).
Samuel Foster
Currentzis or Jacobs for modern recordings.
Jonathan Johnson
Don Giovanni (Furtwangler 1954 or Giulini 1959)
Jeremiah Thomas
Who's your favorite drummer /classical/?
Cooper Rivera
is this /pseud/ general?
Dylan Torres
Glennie
Oliver Ortiz
...
Evan Davis
>le old recordings meme If you prefer craftsmanship to beauty then why not stick to Bach on MIDI, cunt.
Honestly, if Mozart wasn't in the big 3, you wouldn't care for his rococo at all.
Eli Morgan
/classical/ is /oldrecordingmeme/ general.
Asher Peterson
>not into bands
And then there's this bigot.
Tyler Rogers
not him, but neither of those are in bad quality, and the Giulini is in full-blooded stereo sound. not to mention it's a Legge production, and his recordings are very often listed fondly by audiophiles, alongside early Decca/RCA/Mercury recordings.
Fricsay's Giovanni is better than both, tho
Landon Johnson
What a moron...
Thomas Taylor
I hope not. Keep that shit out of here.
Christopher Cruz
>Keep that shit out of here. >mfw bigots are allowed to post here
James Morgan
Maybe in terms of what Fricsay gets out of the orchestra, but I'd say the singers concede something to the Giulini and Furtwangler recordings, and given that it's an opera you have to go with the singers.
Jazz is art music so it belongs in /classical/. Non-patricians on the other hand, don't.
John Martin
It's popular art music. Suck a dick You probably listen to Green Day
Thomas Brown
"quality"
Get out of here. There's a whole board for you to fawn over all the mediocre popular music of the last 100 years. Leave us be.
Carter Thompson
I'm not even the person who brought up Jazz in this thread.
I'd listen to Dave Holland over most of the Romantic era.
Tyler Gray
well, when it comes to early/mid 20th century, i don't usually have an issue with most castings, even if i have my preferences.
besides, i'd argue that Furt's 1953 performance is a bit better. the conducting is a bit livlier, and Raphael Arie is better than Denzo Ernster as the Commendatore.
Gabriel Foster
I have only listened to Beethoven's 9th symphony and I think it is the best thing ever What should i listen to next??
Caleb Butler
JAZZ GET OUT
Brody Kelly
Beethoven's 3rd, conducted Erich Kleiber. or more immediately accessible is Beethoven's 6th conducted by Erich
Joshua Cox
thoughts on Eberhard Weber?
James Hughes
No, you get out of here. /classical/ is not the "music that's older than 100 years" general. It's the art music general and jazz is art music. Jazz belongs in /classical/.
Josiah Powell
My moms name is Patricia
Carson Murphy
Literally the piece that got me into classical music. Had some Liszt symphonic poems sitting on my iPod, probably mindlessly taken from my dad's collection while filling up my library. Never listened to them, then one day didn't have an idea for what I wanted to listen to, so started just scrolling through the artists, wanting to find something I maybe haven't listened in a while. See this Liszt guy - wasn't even sure what genre to expect by the artist name alone. Play the album, this piece is the first thing on there. Instantly fell in love. The next poem on there was Mazzepa, definitly recommend: youtube.com/watch?v=1lpIDo_Jz68 /blog
Levi Cook
Okay. Not great. ECM is the only tolerable jazz because it's so intertwined with modern classical, but it's nothing really special.
We /jassical/ now. Who are your favorite pre-1950 jazz performers? Do you underrate Gershwin? Was jazz one of the most important developments the 20th century had to offer?
Josiah Carter
I'd rather you didn't. If we wanted to discuss jazz, we would likely be in the snappily-titled /jazz/ thread - to which I shall direct you in case there was any confusion:
Jeremiah Kelly
Stop trying to police the thread. There's nothing wrong with dual-posting. /jazz/ can discuss jazzy classical, and /classical/ can discuss classy jazz. There's plenty of cross-pollination between classical and jazz.
Jeremiah Watson
I don't want retarded /classic/ elitists ruin my Jazz. Thread merge is thread murder. Unite at
Parker Scott
2017 patriciancore?
Dylan Perez
/jazz/ is a dead general and jazz has had considerable influence on many composers. Stop trying to be Ame or artmusic-kun, you aren't as amusing.
Justin Hughes
Jazz-influenced popular music > serialist-influenced art music.
History has pronounced its judgement, sorry.
Angel Lee
Shit > shit
History has pronounced its judgement, sorry.
Jayden Jenkins
>he doesn't like Baroque You don't belong here.
David Jackson
/jazz/ is a dead general
Landon Murphy
Nice inferiority complex you have there little faggot.
>Mingus is the only serious composer in jazz What is Moondog?
Beethoven had a very long beard for most of his life.
DAILY REMINDER DAILY REMINDER
Adrian Butler
[citation needed]
I've read testimonies of people that saw him perform, and often wrote about his shitty appearance and generally they all note that his hair was a mess and was constantly on his face, but never have I heard about a very long beard. I knew he had the romantic sideburns during his middle period, around when he composed the Eroica, but that can hardly be considered as a 'very long beard'
Wyatt Hughes
Is monkey posting really going to become a thing now?
>mfw
Fuck you OP.
He had shit hygene and shaved irregularly.
Jack Gonzalez
In his biography of Beethoven, Solomon says that in his later years Beethoven shaved himself rarely, usually when his friends forced him to do so, to bathe and to change clothes.
He never mentions anything about his early years, but in his later ones he certainly sported a massive German beard most of the time. It makes sense after all: we know of his complete ineptitude when it came to tidiness and hygiene, did you really expect him to shave every other day even if he was uncapable of emptying a chamber pot on a weekly basis?
That guy was a (beautiful, sublime) mess.
pic related: Beethoven without his beard
Juan Smith
>average jazz musician
Connor White
Why is it never pictured then?
Grayson Morris
Well, he was also borderline crazy during his last stage, so it would be normal for him. I think his nails were even long and shit, right? But I mean, that's hardly 'most of his life'
Ethan Young
Go back to your containment board In this general we follow the teachings of Beethoven: brotherly love is the foundation of this community (unless you're a pleb)
Nicholas Wilson
We're talking about his last 20 years out of 57: it's technically not most of his life, but it is certainy most of that part of his life which mattered the most (which started in his 20s).
>he was also borderline crazy during his last stage People in courts certainly thought that, but his friends and acquaintances thought that he was a smart, coherent and lively man. At the times sperging out and singing in the streets was enough for you to be recognized as the ''crazy one''.
That's not how portraits work: you have to assume that when he was getting those done, he was at the top of his looks, he could not look better. It would make no sense for him to have himself painted while looking like shit.
Zachary Parker
Because beards were not fashionable at the time.
Xavier Lopez
Having a beard doesn't mean looking like shit, not always.
Nolan Diaz
I want both Sup Forums AND /leftypol/ to leave.
Joshua Turner
It certainly did in those years in Germany.
>tfw you'll never see a bearded Goethe
Harboring for your fellow man has nothing to do with /leftypol/.
Xavier Davis
>Harboring for your fellow man has nothing to do with /leftypol/ Spare me the bullshit.
Connor Parker
Why does /classical/ attract so many Sup Forumstards?
Brandon Bailey
>he still has a tribal mindset >he is still THIS fucking stupid
lol, at least I'm not you
Chase Young
>On a music board >Discussing music >Sup Forumsack makes a racist remark >"race isn't the focus here friendo" >"fucking leftypol tards" What's your endgame son?
Ethan Peterson
>this user is actually triggered by a lack of racism
Hilarious and sad at the same time.
Colton Taylor
I hate when they put landscapes on the cover of classical recordings, it just reinforces the pleb misconception of classical music as 'relaxing' or as ornament music to play in the background.
John Carter
because Sup Forumstards are secretly experts in classical music