Anti-capitalist thread

Anti-capitalist thread

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>Starts an anti capitalist thread
>While on a device whose R&D, release, distribution, and continued support is due solely to capitalism
>Who posted it through the internet because they paid an ISP for it, perpetuating capitalism


Stay in school, kiddo.

>"luck"
organizing against the working class is not fucking luck

low quality bait

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How not to be poor:
1) Graduate high school
2) Don't have a child
3) Have a job, any job

Sorry that so many people can't follow those 3 simple rules and blame "capitalism" because of it.

Yea, just dismiss anything that's counter to your political narrative as a troll.

Shit man, you'd do Trump proud.

Back to work, slaves!

getting born into wealth is. Also the system by definition means that only a tiny minority can ever be very wealthy. Luck plays a part in being that minority

yall are always anti capitalist but yet don't like to do anything that renders capitalism unneccessary, like gardening, homebrew, woodwork, all the /diy/ shit

you just hate a system that rewards hard work and voluntary trade of money for services in a free market. but you have no marketable skills and no skills to avoid voluntary trade of money. lmfao

I've fone all those things but I'm poor as hell.

you may not be ppor. but you still get exploited by people who literally make 1000 times more then you do.

The wealth needs to be distributed much better.

Its not multinational companies that make more companies, that stay in families for hundreds of years.

They buy out right wing politicians so those politicians can bend the law to make those multinatonals ''earn'' even more money.

By decreasing minimum wage for example. or by increasing the prices on healthcare.

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Its IS* multinational companies.

In reality it's this.

◄ Proverbs 18:23 ►
New International Version

"The poor plead for mercy, but the rich answer harshly."

"If you're part of society you can't complain about that society"

It does not reward work. it is a system that turns people into modern slaves and is merely rewarding for the people who own the billion dollar industries.

It is us the people, who are their number 1 resource. and they continue to exploit.

Oh look, someone who does not understand the concepts of capitalism and socialism. Go suck your chefs dick you fucking wagecuck.

you're either
1.) a bad worker, so nobody wants to promote you
2.) a bad spender, so you waste money on shit you could do at home, or overspending on the space you're living in
3.) ????

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Don't forget a good splash of sociopathic ice cold uncaring attitude toward humanity and a complete lack of morality, ignoring all entreatments and commands from sages to deal with the poor fairly.

>that stay in families for hundreds of years
>inheritance

Yet somehow most millionaires and billionaires in the US were born in poor or middle class families, not in rich families.

Bill Gates, John D. Rockefeller, Mark Zuckerberg and pretty much all A-list Hollywood stars didn't have rich parents.

I have marketable skills, however, I had to be in minimum wage till the debt was paid off.
even though I am now in a good industry I am not going to turn my nose up at people in minimum wage jobs, A because I have been there, B they fulfill a function, paying them crap and treating them like crap doesn't achieve anything and C, better wages means more potential clients...

you have to be over 18 to be on this site

Can you point out to me where I said that, chuckle nuts?

>ITT: people who've never studies any philosophy or economics

I'm convinced you people think you're """""exploited""""" because food doesn't magically float into your mouth.

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>sociopathic ice cold uncaring attitude toward humanity and a complete lack of morality
wtf your world view is completely wrong
having this mentality puts you unemployed in a basement or in prison, it doesn't make you rich
stop thinking Donald Trump is the stereotype example of a rich person, he's an exception

i'm not gonna say that the oligarchy isn't a problem, but the majority of people have the ability to live a decent life on a job that is generally enjoyable. if you don't want to work, get a cheap plot of land (Acres are sometimes 2 grand and you can save that in a month or two by living in a car) and /diy/ your house, your energy, your food, etc. but anti capitalism people don't want that. they want goods, made by people who care about their product, for free of cost, therefore exploiting their labor and stealing their products. THAT is slavery. who the fuck cares about making a billion dollars? they're only billionaires because people are too lazy to make their own bread out of 2 cents of flour and water, or too lazy to raise chickens for eggs, etc. people willingly pay other people to do labor for them. do it yourself.

do you know who gave most rights and developed most technology you have?
Clearly you don't, it was the USSR.

Aye. Show some love for ourboi Marx, comrades

youtube.com/watch?v=dNVZ0ZPfE8s

Watch and learn

Just because you cant figure out how to work the system in a way that doesnt exploit others doesnt mean the whole system is fucked.

Every one is bad. Conservatism makes us too reserved. Liberal makes us too wild. Communism is too boring. Fascism is too cruel.

If you really think about it. Capitalism is the best. In a communist area you would have your wealth split. In a fascist state, you would be whipped if you tried to have it split.

Capitalism offers true independence that no other kind of government does.

You can create your own government in a capitalist one in a sense. Its the most freeing form of control. You just cant see past the green. Most people cant and thats why you hate it.

But think of what you can go on to do with the availability of capitalism. You can go on to help people the way you want with what you earn.

Please tell me, how is removing this going to make the world a better place?

You sit by your laptop with a fucking mochiatto talking about how capitalism is the devil and there are little boys carrying rifles and little girls carrying cock.

Why not grow up from the whole psuedo-intellectual stage and go fucking do something or get interested in a genuinely horrible act. Like really?

Do you know how you could help those kids though? If you could give them a home and food and education and how would you do that? With money. Good luck trying to get as much that you could from capitalism than any other form of government.

Most people are rich because they inherit wealth of their family or have connection with people in high position.

Almost NO people get rich by hard work. Rich people are hypocrites

Haha. No.
The Soviets copied everything from the US and Germany.

It might be more like the fact that ultra-rich banks give us student loans, which poor people assume are some good natured attempt at making society fair for the poor to educate themselves, but then it turns out just to be another form of slavery with high interest rates, interest on top of interest if we can't pay, and exorbitantly high fines that seem to ignore all human decency, not to mention constant threats to fire us from jobs that effectively act as a metaphysical whip to keep the working class in fear.

those are right wign excuses. and is bull fucking shit. you sir are getting cucked so fucking hard.

And you are to fucking weak to stand up to it.

>1.) a bad worker, so nobody wants to promote you

heh, you can be in an entry level job and be by far the best worker in your department, and never get promotions. hell I had to train my last 4 supervisors to do my job, until I and the last other good worker there left and the department just went to shit afterword.

understand, they don't promote based on merit, just connections, and as long as they don't loose too much money they don't care.

>2.) a bad spender, so you waste money on shit you could do at home, or overspending on the space you're living in

if you live in a big city, this is unavoidable thanks to gentrification, you COULD move out to the country where things are cheaper and have no jobs though...

>I own a factory, and need workers to operate the machines or else I lose my investment
>I will pay you $7 an hour to operate this machine for me
>Okay, sounds good. Much better than the $0 I make now, and the increase in demand for labor means that the price of labor is increased. You know, basic supply and demand
>Fantastic, you can start immediately since we have both voluntarily entered into this exchange
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>SOMEONE IS BEING EXPLOITED!!!
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Soviet Union was peak of 20th century human civilization

My father is trump rich nigger.
>tfw I'll never have to work in my life
Go to work wagecuck

you are nothing but a modern ass slave. fuck you. you and your kids deserve to get exploited with that sheep fucking brain of yours.

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>John D. Rockefeller,
ah, so are his decedents poor now?

John D. Rockefeller and Bill Gates were born in lower/middle class families. As were most rich people in the US. There's a lot of mobility between classes. Also don't underestimate the amount of people born into rich families who waste all their family capital within one generation.

you didn't 'have' to be in minimum wage. you do for a year or so but being a good worker gets you promoted. the problem is working-age adults don't get marketable skills until long past their 20's and need to move out and be independent. your parents should have taught you skills earlier. or had you working by 16 to get you experience to move up, or got you into a trade school or something. universities are no longer impressive, and lucrative to the student but a big scam.

It never ceases to amaze how the majority of Sup Forums's responses include complete tangential nonsense. I.E. implying that I even mentioned Trump.

>bread lines

Troll harder

Soviet was a failed state and only moderately important for technology. Germany, Britain and US contributed much more to human advancement.

if you think you're the 'best worker in your department', you're probably universally regarded as shit. sorry buddy.

you can move, and commute too. it's hard but doable. the more people you can split rent with, the better

Nope but Rockefeller was the richest person ever so it would require quite an effort to waste all his fortune. However, as I said, loads of rich people waste their family capital of a few million dollars within a short time.

Words you missed and concepts you don't understand: the list!
>give student loans
Offer student loans
>paying for a loan you voluntarily take out is slavery
Lol
>Exorbitantly high fines that you consent to are exploitative
LOL
>Constant threats to fire you from your job
If you're generating value greater than your cost of labor, then the company won't fire you unless you break their code of conduct.
>metaphysical whip
That word doesn't mean what you think it means
>Keep the working class in fear
Of what, starving because they can't / refuse to exchange value for value?

and they now also exploit the 99%.

well, i agree with that. Couldn't I?

World doesn't spin without capitalism, the world stops spinning when greed takes over.

>If you really think about it. Capitalism is the best.

okay... so letting a shit ton of our GDP go to healthcare when countries with socialized programs can deliver the same healthcare service at a FRACTION of the cost by socializing it?

perhapts absolutes are retarded and the smart thing intelligent people should be doing is finding which sectors are better socialized or privatized, to get the least waste and most growth. however that is a tall order for an over religious and uneducated population like americans who see only absolutes and nothing else.

Also, rockfeller like many other major corporations were set up a very very long time ago. they own the entire economy. it is being passed on from generation to generation. you can not get between it anymore.

>metaphysical
transcending physical matter or the laws of nature.

Guess it kinda does mean what I said.

Anyway, do you have student loans? Do you have any idea what I'm even talking about? How old are you?

>Makes the largest nukes
>industrialised in only 30 years
>Puts first man in orbit
>Defeats nazi machine and saves Europe
Stay cucked pleb

>greed
Love when people use that word
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>Capitalism offers true independence that no other kind of government does.

except when capitalists can BUY political favor through campaign donations...

they tell you exactly how the loans work, so if you still voluntarily signed up for them out of like, idk, societal peer pressure, you're retarded

don't get a job where your labor is so undervalued that you're easily fireable. be such a good worker they can't fire you. it's not fucking hard you useless neets. survival of the fucking fittest

>Western propaganda

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Basically this. The irony in most anti-capitalists is that they spend more time ignoring the obvious routes to take to avoid being a wage slave, and complaining that people who have more successful ancestry are better off than them, than they do actually doing a fucking thing to prove that they can live a productive life where they aren't sat down and made to do one specific job for some guy with money to waste on their labor. And then they perpetuate the supposedly evil capitalist machine by wasting their parents money on falling for the worthless uni degree meme and whining about minimum wage and teachers salaries all day in their safe spaces, because they fell for the give indoctrinating children more funding and become a minimum wage slave meme. You anti-capitalists have been played by the machine you claim to be so better than, all of your money is going into the hands of people who tricked you and they now have the money to trick your kids, and it'll go on and on. Go ahead and circlejerk over your anti-establishment angst, you're all idiots.

26, I just finished paying off my marketing degree.
I went to college for a major that would increase my human capital.. because that's what schooling is for.
And no, metaphysical refers to a specific branch of philosophy having to do with the study of /validation of existence. The word you're looking for is "metaphorical"

>invades Eastern Europe
>kills millions, including 30 million of their own people including starving farmers to death
>prevents people from being able to leave "the iron curtain"
>how else was Soviet Russia a completely evil government and nothing like what you said?

lol

that's not what metaphysical means

John D rockefeller is THE example of what is wrong with the economy.

He and his offspring (for generations) have been actively eliminating any competition that may stand in their way. they have a monopoly on certain world trades.he is what capitalism is. modern capitalism started with people like him.

You will never ever be able to get up there with them. only if they want you to.

you are a fucking retard even bringing those names up.

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>Capitalism offers true independence that no other kind of government does.
Capitalism makes you slave of money, makes you spend half of your life don't things you wouldn't do (if it didn't pay enough)

>if you think you're the 'best worker in your department', you're probably universally regarded as shit.

honestly, team leaders from other departments pretty much talked to me more than my team leader because they knew it would get done if I did it.

the main thing they all cited after I left was, "no one knows who to do anything"

Basically I and the other lady were the two stapples holding the department together, then everything when to hell when we left. and we earned the same wages as the fucks who sat around all day.

ofcourse it evil. its is ran by multinationalists who actively destroy any competition. you only get up there with them if they want you too.

elaborate plz?
>i dnt understand

>eliminating any competition
You mean by offering their goods and services at better prices and quality than everyone else, or by using the government as a weapon to enforce monopoly?

>army budget only 20% of US
>defeats nazis by letting 30 million soldiers run towards their deaths, America achieved the same on the western front with only 1% of the deaths
>general population is poor, very low standard of living
>life expectancy lower than some African countries
>never developed into full democratic capitalist country
>has no cultural influence on the world

so capitalism sucks because there are corrupted politicians out there?

are you saying communist government is less corrupted? lol

>Stay cucked pleb
so what is up with right wingers and the term 'cucked?'

I mean, its like in every other sentence.

>>paying for a loan you voluntarily take out is slavery
>Lol
only people who are depending on these loans use them. You can screw the "voluntarily".

>>Exorbitantly high fines that you consent to are exploitative
>LOL
Again: tell me another way of financing your studies if you're poor.

>>Constant threats to fire you from your job
>If you're generating value greater than your cost of labor, then the company won't fire you unless you break their code of conduct.
Until someone who generates a greater value for less money comes, of course.

>Communist
>Right wing
Literally what?

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i'm glad you understand it lmao. the people who hate capitalism only hate it because it makes them stare straight into their complete uselessness and irrelevancy in society. without someone else spoonfeeding them by hand, they'd seriously just die off

>You mean by offering their goods and services at better prices and quality than everyone else,

well once he becomes a monopoly, he doesn't need to control his prices after that does he?

You fucking believe this shit? Kek

Well, it's kind of one of the definitions of metaphysical if you look it up, not to mention having relation to the spirit.

My dad is a banker. I happen to know that student loan debt carries conventions that banks don't even do to the indebted. With student loans they continue to add interest to loans that are in default, which banks don't do. They have methods of compounding interest, which banks don't do, which specifically make it harder for the poorest of individuals even if they work.

Also, because I am against student loan practices doesn't mean I'm a NEET. I have a job, and work toward paying my debt. You assume too much. Honestly, if you are 26 or under you are a child compared to me. So pay attention, you might learn something.

Proverbs 29:14

If a king judges the poor with fairness, his throne will be established forever.

No, you can't screw the voluntary. That's the only important concept. If you enter into a contract voluntarily and are held to the terms you agreed to, it, by definition, isn't exploitative
>tell me another way of financing your studies if you're poor
Don't go to college. Go to trade school and learn a craft that's valuable in your market to obtain resources.
>Unless someone who generates a greater value for less money comes, of course
Yes, and? People have different strengths and weaknesses. Just because people are better than you doesn't mean you're a slave (although your victim complex says otherwise)
If you generate more value than your cost, you're an asset. Companies hire people who are assets because it generates profit. This is fundamental supply and demand.

>so capitalism sucks because there are corrupted politicians out there?

well, rather your "morale" capitalists are deliberately bribing them.

Are you saying that the bribing is nature and good in a capitalist, is only back if the party they are trying to corrupt accepts it?

>are you saying communist government is less corrupted? lol

I am curious, where did I ever mention 'communism?'

whatever, right wingers have been going overboard with that word since the election, why is that their new favorite word?

what's your job?

By stealing ideas, buying out ideas of others or simply creating sister companies. 2 electronic companies owned by the same corporation but with 2 different names. to make sure there is no room for anyone else.

Buy politicians who then bend the laws to increase prices on healthcare and reduce minimum wages so the working class can be exploited even more,.

>Once you're a monopoly, no one will ever compete with you again
Economic illiteracy at its finest. If you are charging "too much" for your good or service. Entrepreneurs across the globe will jizz their pants because they know that they can supply the same thing for cheaper. the more entrepreneurs and businesses enter the market, the more they have to bid their prices down to appeal to consumers, meaning that their profit margins become smaller and smaller until they reach a competitive equilibrium. That's the foundation of trade.
youtube.com/watch?v=nOBD6v8g1F4

Its common sense. your mind is just to weak to bear the weight of a free world. you prefer to be enslaved. and never question it.

You are pathetic.

>I'm older than you, so I'm right
Not an argument. All you're describing is the practices that these companies practice that their clients agreed to. If you've taken a single econ class you'd know what you're saying is bullshit. If you'd taken a single philosophy course or had any moral compass, you'd know that consensual agreements aren't exploitative. You can't just go redefining emotionally charged words to suit your narrative; it makes you look like an idiot.

>If you are charging "too much" for your good or service. Entrepreneurs across the globe will jizz their pants because they know that they can supply the same thing for cheaper.

okay, and comcast...

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>To make sure there's no room for anyone else
Do you think a market has to make room for you? You either enter markets with an excess of demand and a lack of supply to generate wealth, or you compete on terms other than price.

The bit about politicians is a fault of government, not the market. Why would you want an authoritarian state that can be so easily bought out?