What did he mean by this?

What did he mean by this?

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Rich people aren't going to heaven.

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Camel refers to a type of thick rope

God will just have to push really really hard to fit the rich people into heaven

rich man cannot achieve faith/understanding in religion/complete giving into god/faith

rich in this case = tied to worldly things(money,woman,work)

a camel can go thru needle's eye because he just grazing lazily neighbour's lawn giving zero fuck about other ppl and thus can easily dive in deeper into christianity

For the last two centuries it has been common teaching in Sunday School that there is a gate in Jerusalem called the eye of the needle through which a camel could not pass unless it stooped and first had all its baggage first removed. After dark, when the main gates were shut, travellers or merchants would have to use this smaller gate, through which the camel could only enter unencumbered and crawling on its knees! Great sermon material, with the parallels of coming to God on our knees without all our baggage. A lovely story and an excellent parable for preaching but unfortunately unfounded! From at least the 15th century, and possibly as early as the 9th but not earlier, this story has been put forth, however, there is no evidence for such a gate, nor record of reprimand of the architect who may have forgotten to make a gate big enough for the camel and rider to pass through unhindered.

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The eye of the needle is an actual place.

The "Eye of the Needle" has been claimed to be a gate in Jerusalem, which opened after the main gate was closed at night. A camel could only pass through this smaller gate if it was stooped and had its baggage removed.

youre trying way too hard son..

>Camel refers to a type of thick rope
[citation needed]

there is no widely accepted evidence for the existence of such a gate.

Post proof.

Cyril of Alexandria claimed that "camel" is a Greek misspelling; that kamêlos (camel) was a written in place of kamilos, meaning "rope" or "cable"

No there isn't. Archeology has never found such a place. On the other hand many languages around middle east has sayings for large animals to go though actual eye of needle meaning that something is impossible.

biblicalhebrew.com/nt/camelneedle.htm

Probably just another of the many non literal stories in the Bible that are meant to teach a greater lesson.

>Is a mispelling
>reaching this hard

Like how it's impossinble to get to heaven. That's not literal.

Like how there's a heaven. That's also not literal.

Through history there have been many versions of the bible that translated the original texts many ways.
It could be any of these or it could have even been a play on words to mean all of the above

>deluding yourself to this point
Sell your shit and give it to the poor already.

give up all your worldly possessions and follow christ's example by serving your fellow man in spirit and deed.

Dubs checked, this man has the right idea.

But i am the poor

Or it could be neither. If it was a pun or something we would have know by this point.

If you're posting here you're probably not by global standards at least. That said, if you're in a tough spot financially of course you don't have to donate to charity, nobody expects you to become homeless.
You could volunteer in a soup kitchen if you have some spare time and energy though.

Eh id rather play vidya and jerk it to loli

That's sinful behaviour my lad.

then you're not doing anything except serving yourself and your needs and thus unable to act like christ.

And you wonder why you're a poorfag.

If that was the case we would have known this by now.
Cyril of Alexandria was a rich guy, makes you think doesn't it?

It means we all die in the end. Equal ending no matter how greedy you live your life

Jews can't go to heavan

I heard similar except it was just a common phrase for the small door in any gate not just a specific gate.

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I actually believe in various religions, checkmate non atheist

im suprised that christian communes are not more common. everyone works and donates their money to the common pot from that the bills are paid. people unwilling/unable to learn or retrain to work within 6 months are sent packing with a "prodigal son" provision. the amount saved by doing things in bulk would more than make up for the losses when people loose their jobs.

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I did that for 15 years, now im 29 fat and lonely. It is hell but im working on getting out. The longer you wait the harder it gets to go back

thecatholicthing.org/2010/01/04/camel-or-rope/

It's debatable but many scholars think it referred to a thick rope

God gives money to the rich and in order for you to become rich (at least faster or bigger than most) you need to do some evil things, that's how things are.

For me it means that if a man is rich he is not sharing the money with the people who needs it.
There will be always people who needs help and if you are saving the money for yourself you are being selfish in some way.

>tldr, God was a comunist.

>The disciples were even more amazed, and said to each other, “Who then can be saved?”
>Jesus looked at them and said, “With man this is impossible, but not with God; all things are possible with God.”
Mark 10:26-27

Obviously some rich guys read the bible and didn't like this bit so they made shit up. Doesn't take a genious.

If you are rich, buy very large needles

pretty much. back in that time and still today, wealth was seen as a blessing from god and not a function of skill or luck. regardless of how you got it, money has always been a privilege, and it should be seen as a burden to be hoisted onto those who need it most.
wrong.

Okay let me try again
If you are a camel, unless you are also very very small, you will never have any money.

That rich people at the time didn't contribute to society, they only contributed to themselves and their own enclave.

Just like camels, who were so selfish that they, in fact, evolved to be too large to transgress the needle. Precisely, user. Praise alah

two basic points:
1) getting rich takes a lot of time and effort so someone who did this might be too focused on the world/not spent enough time thinking about other things
2) rich people in that era got that way by violence

>The disciples were even more amazed, and said to each other, “Who then can be saved?”
>Jesus looked at them and said, “With man this is impossible, but not with God; all things are possible with God.”
Mark 10:26-27
If that's the case why do Jesus's desciples act so shocked? They wouldn't have if he just said "oh it's kinda harder if you're rich"
If that's the case then why

I think he meant that OP was a faggot and that this thread is cancer

camels cannot own property in todays legal system, so true.

Ph.D. in Religious Studies here
This If you follow false gods and prioritize artificial creations of man (money), you will not get to Heaven.

Here's a better question: when did Athiests get to rename B.C. to B.C.E.?
1. B.C. has always been an abbreviation for "Before Christ" (and has nothing to do with an "era" as in "before common era", BCE)
2. A.D. has always been an abbreviation for "Anno Domini" which means "In the year of our Lord" in Latin.
3. BC and AD have always been dates signifying the date of the birth of Jesus Christ. Again, this has nothing to do with a "before common era".

Are Athiests so butthurt that they need to make up completely illogical things and have people believe BCE somehow is the same because it uses BC, yet they still ignore that date only has relevance to the birth of Christ?

The brainwashing by Athiests is deep.

>That rich people at the time didn't contribute to society, they only contributed to themselves and their own enclave.
>at the time
Am I missing something?

because back in that time and still today, wealth was seen as a blessing from god and not a function of skill or luck.

Richfag detected

Rich people will not go to heaven. I believe this is because back then the rich men boasted and used their wealth for evil therefore, God will not accept them into his kingdom. So, he means it is easier for a large camel to fit through the eye of a needle (the eye is the very end where fluid comes through) then for a boasting rich-man to enter God kingdom. But anyway, no one will read this.

Pole here
We call it "our era" and "before our era", it's seen as pushing it if you say "before christ".
It's all about what you're used to hearing really.
Also, please stop trying to derail the thread. Thanks.

PhD in Shmreligious Shmtudies here
The dinosaurs had it right the hole time look to their temples to find the answers you seek. Freeze frame every :44 of the Aristocats on VHS (only movie gallery rentals for sure work) to find their coordinates good luck little buddy hope your friccin joke of a degree actually does something useful

>Praise Alah
Fuck no, he's even worse. At least Jesus gave us the double golden rule (only one if you don't give a shit about god). They go like this:
>Love god and love your next
This fits better.
>726245372
To note: People in christianity go to heaven for believing and not for good acts. Good acts should be acts of sincerity of their faith, and if it isn't how can you say that they are sincere in their faith to be saved by god?

Not christian but have to deal with the subject since I live in Denmark.

>Not christian but have to deal with the subject since I live in Denmark.
I know Sweden has a lead on atheism, but isn't Denmark close?

You can melt down a needle and/or just expand its size with heat, eventually making it possible for a camel to pass through it. A rich man can't access the "kingdom of God" because there is neither a 'god' nor a 'heaven.'

>I believe this is because back then the rich men boasted and used their wealth for evil therefore, God will not accept them into his kingdom.
>back then
Has something changed?

heaven is full

that's the joke

Because Americans are selfish and don't like any form of tax even if it's beneficial overall. They won't even pay for universal healthcare in case they (and all of their family, etc) don't get sick and "lose out".

Wrong again guys, I'm telling you, the idea is that for a camel to pass through a needle it has to move really fast. So, if you're rich and you want to go to heaven, you should die in a plane crash or preferably a rocket malfunction. However if none of these are available doing speed should count for something. At least be running or something. Maybe jump off a building where you can reach a high velocity? Idk I'm not a PhD in religious studies I'm sure doctor Phil can help us out.

It means "If you're rich, give it to the church/temple/mosque/etc because it's not Hypocrisy when we're rich." Just a bunch of socialist muslim bullshit that nobody ever believes.

Nobody wants to enter the kingdom of god. Because there is no god. It's all pretend bullshit. So enjoy your life, fuck bitches, and get paid, because the big black of nothingness is coming, and there's no point to denying yourself shit because some faggot in a dress who claims to have Invisible Skyman on speed dial says that you should give him what you busted your ass to get.

TIL: Greed is bad
Who knew?

if you change the needle, then it will no longer be a needle, thereby invalidating your effort. also its a parable, which is a _story_ meant to pass along _understanding_ of a concept. people like you are the reason the literal laws of the jews to allow them to go to heaven never work out, people always try to cut corners or change the meanings.

Yeah, but many of the values originate from christianity (Evangelical Lutheran christian values to be precise) and have given movements such as "diakonissestiftelsen" and "diakonhjemmet", which is all about serving, doing good for doing good. Our society is based on christianity when it comes to values and that we still like the rituals, they work well for us.

However, there are few Danish that believe in God, probably around 30% believe in some god definitively. Some are like "meh, I don't know" but it is not that many that believe in god.

>Jesus=Catholic Chuch
Just becasue they're terrible doesn't mean the book is.

It's still a needle, no matter the size or temperature.
>jooz!
Jews are why you have a religion to begin with. Stop cherrypicking.

sports fans????

>butt

Actually if you read it it's pretty terrible. There's good and bad, but when it's bad, holy fuck is it bad.

It's basically Happy Hippy Jesus vs Grumpy Old Paul. I would say ditch both and do whatever the fuck you want. If enough people don't like it, they'll stop you.

And it's not just the bible. It's all religious orgs. From the hooknoses, to the pricks who wake me up on Saturday/Sunday while fighting a hangover, to the loonies with the electronic tin cans. It's all just a scam to separate idiots from their money.

Checked.
What's a "whoremongerer"? I thought it said warmongers, now I'm confused.

well then you won't mind me burning you alive since you're still you no matter the temperature, right?

If I was a rich man
>inb4 Bahda bada bada baa
I would have a huge sculpture of a needle on my grounds with a camel to ride through it

> It's all just a scam to separate idiots from their money.
i agree with you there.

>I would say ditch both and do whatever the fuck you want.
that would make you a satanist, their laws are literally "do what thou wilt"

I'd mind it, but I'd STILL BE A HUMAN BEING if you managed to do so.
>why are you religious types so quick to use violence to get a point across?

Idk but it's true even if you're rich with no access to your money

>Ph.D in religious studies
What did he mean by this?

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How did they even have needles like that 2000+ years ago?

Nice trips.

have you ever seen these assholes at bars, screaming at the tv like they have some personal stake in a group of niggers running across a field/court with balls? it's fucking ridiculous.

The players aren't much better either:

youtube.com/watch?v=SW9C4qi5Y80

(I'm not even talking about the nigger part, that's a good thing. It's him acting like a fucking Faulknerian idiot man-child who's pet cricket died)

Means he's a fan of nearly starving to death.

The bible was written 400 years later...

>that's how you know it's all true

>How did they even have needles
Needles were somewhat bigger back then. Obviously not enough for a camel to go through, but far easier to make.

the remains of one, just as you would have the remains of a needle when you change the material of a needle, besides, you're the one that brought up the ludicous idea that you can change the nature of a needle by manipulating it's shape/temperature while still calling it a needle. this is a form vs function argument and the fact that you don't get that just shows you're insincere about your beliefs.

They had needles 50,000 years ago.
Use google, please.
siberiantimes.com/science/casestudy/news/n0711-worlds-oldest-needle-found-in-siberian-cave-that-stitches-together-human-history/

He meant read the whole section and not just a nice piece that proves a perceived point. The context around that bit of scripture continues to have disciples ask "then how is it humanly possible to get to heaven?" The answer was that it wasn't except through God and that it basically means that one cannot find salvation through materials but faith and etc.

Try harder faggot

>turns out, heat doesn't cause metal to expand
And this is why people are leaving the church in droves.

>How did they even have needles like that 2000+ years ago?
What did they mean by this?

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He meant that reach people are pretentious fucks.

But by this person's logic, those weren't needles.

That's not what his post said you dingus.
Never thought I'd be defending christians on the internet.