How was he so powerful at Occlumency? Was it ever explained...

How was he so powerful at Occlumency? Was it ever explained? Voldemort didnt train him at it because he wasnt initially supposed to be a double agent, and he suddenly joined the Order as a spy, so no time for Dumbledore to train him... So, how did he end up being such an amazing Occlumens?

>inb4 cuck, I only want serious discussion ITT

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>lonely child that spends adult life putting up emotional walls between him and others is good at putting up emotional walls up between him and others
What's there to discuss?

Cuck

Snape was just a punk ass bitch that never partied or fucked hoes so he gooned out alone in his room with Occlumency
but really who cares, snape was a bitch

>Severus Snape was never my friend
-Albus Dumbledore

He probably studied in the library and mostly taught himself.
He ended up needing it when he double crossed Voldemort, if he had not have been a skilled Occlumens, he would have been sussed and avada kedavra'd.
This was one of the best parts of the story imo, especially when he watched that other Hogwarts professor get rekt at Malfoy Manor.
This is a good point.

What's the new book about?

Hermione being a nigger.

I remember that first chapter as Deathly Hallows was BASED. I was HYPED as fuck, very intense scene, that part were Voldemort gave Snape the death stare and Snape kept eye contact calmly like a G. The book went downhill from there

it was great to see the Malfoys get disrespected in their own home, they deserved worse though, fucking aryan nazi pure-blood supremacists

EVEN
MORE
TIME
TRAVEL

The world of Harry Potter is way, way too good for the mediocre story thats told within it.

Literal fanfiction

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Fuck, I'll take a shot at it.

There you have Severus Snape. Okay, your top wizards in the British wizarding world at this point are Dumbledore (great by declining) and Voldemort (hasn't a bit of hesitation in him at killing). So who is number three?

Snape. Shows up at Hogwarts knowing more about the Dark Arts than half the seventh years ... HOW? It wasn't like he was getting a lot of patient tutelage at home.

Snape just slowly increased at being a badass over the years. At one point it's THREE professors from Hogwart's versus him, and one of them is Flitwick, who is listed as a Dueling Champion. He not only holds his own but he has to pretend to put on a good show while trying NOT to hurt the people he's helping ... even if they think he's truly in Voldemort's pocket.

Voldemort is the best Legimens and Snape is a BETTER Occulmens than that. It's pretty clear that Snape is a badass who just keeps it under wraps because there's no point in being a badass if you got the only woman who ever liked you back killed.

She's dead. The ONLY thing you have in your life to look forward to is grinding away through the years, preparing to bring down that shit Voldemort when he comes back.

Guy's kind of terrifying.

Snapes death always bothered me. He was skilled at Dark Arts, and time and time again was shown to be a good duelist

>Invented dozens of spells
>BTFO'd Gilderoy Lockhart(i know, that doesnt mean much)
>BTFO'd Sirius and Lupin
>Fought defensively against mcgonagal, shacklebolt and flintwick all at once, managing to hold his ground before fleeing
>BTFO'd the Order during the Battle of Potters

I know JK needed nagini ex machina for Voldemort to leave Snape dying rather than kill him directly, but it would have been nice to see him duel with Voldemort for a bit, I felt like it wouldve been a nice nod to Snape's powers. Maybe Voldy couldve used some curse other than Avada Kedavra and left Snape dying

Youre shitting me

jesus christ

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>Maybe Voldy couldve used some curse other than Avada Kedavra and left Snape dying
uhm that's what happened
he used sectumsempra and then the snake attacked him a few times then he died

You're a big centaur

>What?
>What?

ok now THIS is bad

who the fuck wrote this garbage?

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Rowling must have gone literally insane having that much money

it's tumblr-tier fanfiction. It's all about time travel and alternate realities. It contradicts the entire premise of the third book and a lot of details from the seventh book. The dialogue is written to be hip and trendy. The two main characters are basically gay for each other, but then end up being straight at the end. At least on tumblr, they would have actually boned.

if i throw these pasties, will you die?

I 4got thats what happened in the movie, i remember in the book its just nagini biting his neck. Anyhow, my point still stands, we couldve gotten an epic duel where Snape is the heroic underdog who surprises the powerful villain for a bit. JK rushed everyones deaths in the last book desu

She merely approved it, it was written by some hack called Jack Thorne

There's a (confirmed) Definitive Edition releasing Q1 2017, taking onboard feedback to the play, so the ride isn't over yet

oh yeah you're right about him not using sectumsempra
huh

and yes in fact snape was the one who's death made me the saddest of all of them (reading through again) and I wish he could have gone out differently or best yet not at all

I can't believe those retarded play spoilers ended up all being true.

How the fuck is it getting good reviews?

BANE?

We are living in a fantasy world. A libuck matrix

>JK rushed everyones deaths in the last book desu

The problem is that Rowling hates to write drawn out battles or action scenes. So she made sure the trio had something to do during the battle so she didn't have to describe the battle in any great detail. This attitude led to the movie butchering the battle's climax.

ALSO WHERE WAS IT EXPLAINED HE WAS SO GOOD AT POTIONS?

Do you even a need backstory to this?? It's like wondering why Hermoine was so smart. That's just how she is.

It did look like sectum sempra, he used the wand in a slashing movement and there was a cutting sound. Couldn't Severus just have used his healing spell/chant that he used on Draco in the bathroom?

Probably from the stage design/special effects. I couldn't believe the settings they chose as I was reading it. There's a fight scene on top of the Hogwarts Express. Also, part 1 ends with cold air being blown onto the audience while dementors come out of nowhere surrounding them.

To me it seemed like he knew his time had come and he didn't even want to fight. He knew Voldemort thought that he would be the true master of the elder wand after killing him, so he accepted it in order to mislead Voldemort, not further endanger Draco and leave Harry with an advantage.

No u fucktard bitch, its not the same. A skill is acquired, intelligence can be inherent.For example, men wonder all the time how your mom is so good at giving them orgasms. They dont just explain it by saying "well she was born that way, the same way other women were just born with some self-respect"

Snape is a cunt even as a spirit?

>being cucked this hard from beyond the grave

Snape knew that when life gives you occlumens, you just have to make occlumenade.

>as a spirit
Alternate timeline where Voldemort won the war because Neville died before being able to kill Nagini.

>at least im not married to him
Wat?

well in the movie the snake was poisonous and that + neck wounds probably made it hopeless

He is telling Hermione that getting his neck sliced by Voldemort is a better fate than being married to Ron

Is Bane a big guy in the Harry Potter universe?

What? So how does that translate into Snape being alive? Neville killed Nagini after Snape died, so if Neville died, Nagini is still alive.Even if someone else killed Nagini, Voldy couldve just BTFO'd Snape one-on-one without Nagini

For Harry

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Was getting caught part of Harry's plan?

FPBP

It's fairly self-evident honestly.

That was the explanation given. I'm now realizing it doesn't make sense. The full context is:

>Cedric loses the triwizard tournament, sparing his life, but he is humiliated in the process
>Cedric becomes a deatheater
>Cedric kills Neville at the Battle of Hogwarts
>Voldemort takes over
>The only rebels left are Snape, Ron & Hermione

Remember the 600 gorillion pumpkin pastries goy

It always kind of bothered me that the movie didnt include the part where Harry makes sure they put up Snape's headmaster portrait, since he became Headmaster by Dumbledore's design, making him a legit albeit brief, headmaster.

hell, i dont remember, but did they ever actually show Dumbledore's own portrait?

>Cedric is relevant
>time traveling
>Ron doesn't matter in the slightest
>Voldemort had a secret kid
>Harry Jr and Malfoy Jr are BFFs
>Malfoy Jr wants to fuck Hermione Jr

This seems like the average HP fanfiction

hes the motherfucking half blood prince

second in command to voldemort

Potions is inherent? What about spell-casting? Please explain to me why all the people good at skills in books got their skills from?

Why is the charms wizard so good at charms?

He was his main spy but the seccond in command would be either Lucius or Bellatrix.

>Lucius
>second in command

Lucius Malfoy was a whipping boy, the lowest of the low among his inner circle.

>Lucius
HAHAHAHAHA

Bellatrix probably was his for the majority, but fell out of favor after repeated mistakes.

Potions is the most scientific of the types of magic presented, so it makes sense that naturally intelligent people excel at it.

>Why is the charms wizard so good at charms?
Who cares? He's a really minor character that only serves to move the plot along in a few instances. He's not characterized any further than being a midget who is good at charms.

no, in the last book Snape is clearly his favourite

no way bellatrix was third in command shes a wild card, voldemort never asked her to do anything really or seek her council. lucius was possibly before but he was on voldemorts shitlist once he came back for fucking up the diary and then fucking up the minsitry. snapes appointed headmaster not just because he killed dumbeldore but bc voldemort has him run hogwarts.

>all smart people are good at brewing potions
Wonderful explanation.

No. Smart people are good at following directions, noticing subtleties and using the scientific method to conduct experiments.

These are all things that Harry fails at, which is why he sucks at potions. He only excels once he has a book that spells everything out for him.

this voldemort doesnt even get distrusting of him or thinks hes false when his soul starts getting destroyed. he only kills him because of the elder wand, snape played his part so well he was second in command

Lucius was cucked beyond belief after the fiasco at the Department of Mysteries ...also there was no second in command, its obvious after Voldemort dying Death Eaters get wrecked, it happened both times...
I always wondered what would Snape do if Voldemort actually succeeded in killing Harry. Would Snape just carry on the rest of his days as a Death Eater loyal to Voldemort or would he run away and try to hunt horcruxes. Did Snape even know about the horcruxes?

>Lucius
>2nd in command

Voldemort liked Lucius enough to give him his diary at some point.


Anyhow, Dumbledore says that Voldemort doesn't really value any of his death eaters and actually prefers to work alone.

I don't think there is really a second in command though pompous retards like Lucius, Yaxley and Bellatrix are the type of people that pretend that they are the most important ones in the organization.

so he's good at occulmency because he was good at following albus's directions.

there ya go

But even potions was lolsorandum shit. Their potions books had incorrect instructions which didn't work to produce the potion in question. Hermione was struggling too. Intelligence doesn't really factor into HP universe in a lot of ways.

>...also there was no second in command, its obvious after Voldemort dying Death Eaters get wrecked
or its obvious because voldemort murders his second in command who either way was good to begin with. infact this is proof bellatrix isnt second in command or possibly even third because she didnt do shit. shes a wild card

You people are so silly. It is literally spelled out for u , during the 1st war, Malfoy was his 2nd in command and favorite because of how wealthy and powerful his family was. During the second war, after failing to retrieve the prophecy, he fell out of Voldemort's favor

Probably a good thing the books had the weak instructions for living death. Possibly commentary maybe..but generally you have to be pretty smart for potions snape was smart and hermione was good too.

he fell out of his favor in the graveyard and voldemort comes back with one less horcrux, thus having to make nagini into another..since he doesnt realize harry was his actual 7th.

I feel like potions were a subject that specialists in HP are all up in arms about.

This is no one way to make a potion, and each master has their own method they believe is the best.

Which is why the school books would sometimes produce incorrect potions.

Lucius was clearly the one in charge of retrieving the prophecy which happened after the graveyard, and most of Voldy's top death eaters were there.

Well yes and snape isnt only because he was a teacher at hogwarts. i agree he is put in charge and given the chance

Snape only really become golden boy after killing Dumbledore.

!?!?!

>ALSO WHERE WAS IT EXPLAINED HE WAS SO GOOD AT POTIONS?

Half-Blood Prince. He was a potions god when he was a student at Hogwarts.

Post all Snape dialogue from this play

and where's the explanation for why he was so good then?

and why was lily so good at potions?

and why is dumbledore so great?

Dr. Albus. Im Past

Lucious was very respected before voldemort's first death. albeit mostly for his money and passion. Yet you are correct about him being used by you know who.

Bellatrix fell out of favour because she was linked to the Malfoys mostly. Pic related best potterfu, you filthy half bloods.

>and why was lily so good at potions?

>Hogwarts has access to time travel
>Nobody uses it to save any of the many characters killed in The Deathly Hallows
why

oh my dont ask if you know nothing. they are all destroyed in the ministry who regulated their use. someone who have had to have been wearing it during the battle to time loop back and save someone

BUT they wouldnt have ever died in the first place then thats the point with the closed loop time turners

would have had to been*

Except in the book she didn't cheat. It was her own talent.

>filthy half bloods
>when the only dick Bella wanted was half-blood

Snape is a fucking cuck

Is Lily chose Potter over Snape, she was a dumb bimbo.

He was able to hide his feelings and thoughts behind his love for lily, so voldemort couldn't see them.

The play basically shits all over the third book and its use of closed loop time travel.

why do you need an explanation for people to be good at something?werent you good at any subject in school?

>choosing someone who called you a mudblood
That's like a black woman choosing a man who called her a nigger.

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Nobody likes a nerd, Snape probably jerks off to chinese cartoon too

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Can you imagine the kind of shit WIZARD hentai has in it?