Genuinely curious as we have a health care system in Spain that works pretty well, I'm not sure why Obama care is bad and people want it gone so badly?
Can someone redpill a non-American on what's wrong with Obamacare?
its name
it's a compromise with right wing corporatists
single payer would be more cost effective and efficient
Because it's not about helping people or giving anyone health care, it's about waging Marxist class warfare on working middle class Americans is why.
It's actually quite helpful for low income people and those with existing medical issues.
The main gripe is that it forces you to purchase private insurance, which is something the Republicans forced into the bill. They are now complaining about this and using it as a reason to abolish it.
>It's actually quite helpful for low income people and those with existing medical issues.
>The main gripe is that it forces you to purchase private insurance
How is this helpful to low income people to force them to buy insurance they can't afford?
This is why the right doesn't like it
This is why the left doesn't like it
It hasn't really helped people besides the law where insurance companies have to accept people despite prior diseases,etc.
The penalties hurt low income people unless they are homeless or live on welfare, which in turn is ironic because Medicaid and passport insured them anyway.
The ACA forced policy and rate changes. Insurance is much more affordable for low income people than it was before.
It is a problem that people are being forced to purchase private insurance though. Like I said, the Republicans forced that through so they could whine about it later in hopes of repealing the law. A clever plan really.
Just more welfare state bullshit to prop up the system a little longer. Trump is pulling back the facade to reveal the crisis and contradiction inherent to the capitalist order.
>It is a problem that people are being forced to purchase private insurance though. Like I said, the Republicans forced that through so they could whine about it later in hopes of repealing the law. A clever plan really.
According to what I heard, it was engineered by the Democrats as a backdoor route to SPHC because people would not be able to afford insurance, thus they'd step in and say "Aha, we need SPHC after all!"
Apparently it doesn't affect me in any way so you probably know more about it than I do.
sounds a lot like OsamaCare and that it really is a way to force people into buying expensive full coverage insurance that most people don't need.
we have a country of over 300 million and, surely EVERY person is not sick nor do they have any condition that requires them to purchase a full coverage insurance. if the laws were not as strict (penalizing people for not buying etc) and if the marketplace provided more options for basic coverage (read catastrophic plans) it would be more agreeable.
USA has socialism allergies
Germany has unbalanced budged allergies
Japan has military allergies
Why do Americans have such stupid two party partisan politics like this? Everything bad is always the fault of the party I don't like.
I like this
So how do people live without any kind of insurance? I guess that might work while you are young but eventually?
The electoral college make it impossible for a new party to gain any power unless one of the major parties is annihilated. Whoever gets the majority of the vote in a state automatically wins all the electoral votes for that state. Nobody wants to vote for the 3rd party guys because it's the same as wadding up the ballot paper and tossing it in the garbage.
umm..most people in this country still work, and last I checked it is how most of them get insured
Old people have Medicare.
>49 out of 50 states require drivers to have auto insurance
>right-tards are perfectly fine with this, yet start screeching autistically when required to buy health insurance
Trump failed (again), now Obamacare's living corpse is being dragged paraded by liberals as the savior of healthcare.
>surely EVERY person is not sick nor do they have any condition that requires them to purchase a full coverage insurance.
do you even know what an insurance is?
it's not giving anyone health care? what about medicaid expansion (which i got covered under) or those with pre-existing conditions? it's helped and covered millions
the individual mandate is not the result of any trickery, it's the fundamentals of insurance. you need to have a good pool of healthy people not using it, so that their premiums make up for the losses of unhealthy people.
if 100 people buy a $10 plan, the company has $1,000. now on average, 90 of those people will not use it at all in that month, and you can expect the others who do to rack up, say, $950 in bills. it's priced at such a way that the people who are using it cost less than the total of all premiums. if everyone in your pool is sick because no one is buying insurance unless they need to use it, then you lose massive amounts of money. I believe in one state they tried then romneycare but w/out individual mandate and it was a complete disaster.
you can't have coverage of pre-existing conditions (which everyone admits is good) without the individual mandate.
do you even know how to read and comprehend English?
Most Americans think insurance is something you should be entitled to only pay for when you want to cash it out immediately. I'm not sure why this is only considered objectionable for health insurance, you don't see people bitching that they can't buy house insurance after it burns out, or a $500k life insurance policy on their death bed
it's a giant insurance companies subsidies.
>employed
>retired
What do these two groups have to do with Obamacare?
They say Obamacare is forcing the UNINSURED people to buy private insurance. So I am wondering who those uninsured people are.