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let's all sit down and have a real rational argument without ad hominem.

Let us discuss with each other about pedophilla,

first of all that is a mental disorder, which means they did not choose to be pedophiles. How do you truly feel about someone with pedophilla?

Infact millions of them all over the world do not harm children, the media only shows the ones who do.

A majority of them don't even bother kid and live their own lives like the rest of us.

So if it's so bad why don't we try to find a way to cure it or some sort of suppression?

The problem with this however is that many will not come out and seek treatment in fear of death/imprisonment/torture by those who have complete ignorance on the subject.

Another thing not all of those who rape children are pedophiles many of them just want to feel control. Over someone weaker.

But again, many do not and will not and have no plans on harming a child.

your thoughts Sup Forums?

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I'm a pedo and I hate it
I wish I could see the world through the eyes of a normal person

Kys you autistic faggot

what an EPIC meme my friendo xD

there can't be a discussion if the "normal dude" won't listen. A discussion is made by willing parts, and pro-loli is willing, but anti-loli isn't

sry but I see no point, I'll be dumping loli in the meantime

There is no such thing as 'normal' we as a society are not bounded by one culture, ideology or belief.

Those who are different those who feel the way society does not want you to feel are always and will be discriminated.

This isnt a pro loli or an anti loli discussion

this is not about lolis at all.

I however will listen without bashing.

back to the loli thread with you

retard

I wouldn't hesitate to fuck a 13-18 year old, I think its weird as fuck to fuck a girl that looks like a fucking toddler.

well, I'll take the bait. I'm listening you.
How do you feel about loli? What do you believe?

- LH

All pedo fucks must hang. Kill yourself before you harm any children.

Oldfag pedo here, let me get straight to the points.

>Liking lolis makes you a pedo, the same way liking traps still makes you gay
>Being a pedo is not illegal, fucking inmature assholes is.
>you can be a pedo and act like a normal human being, even around kids
>being a pedo means you find opposite sex kids attractive, that doesn meant you want to rape/fuck every single one of them. The same way a normal straight being does not do the same.
>Rape, is a total different fetish. Being a pedo is another fetish. Being a fag too. Of course you can fuse these and be a Homo rapist pedo (which is illegal, because raping is illegal)

Ask away, I will answer as honestly as possible. Thats what anonymous is for.

Since OP being open minded, I'll be serious with my post this time

>first of all that is a mental disorder, which means they did not choose to be pedophiles.

How do you truly feel about someone with pedophilla?

Honestly 100% I don't mind them as long as they are not preying on children or trying to justify preying on them.

>So if it's so bad why don't we try to find a way to cure it or some sort of suppression?

Germonies has created an anti-offender campaign called "don't offend' and is encouraging pedophiles to seek treatment if they feel they will harm a child.

>The problem with this however is that many will not come out and seek treatment in fear of death/imprisonment/torture by those who have complete ignorance on the subject.


Yeah well like you said, the media gives them a bad name.

>But again, many do not and will not and have no plans on harming a child.

your thoughts Sup Forums?

as long as they're not gonna hurt kids I don't give a fuck what they do with their lives

>how do you feel about lolis

Irrelevant argument this isnt about lolis I have no opinion on art/animations

>what do you believe

What specifically are you asking?

A person's sexuality is not a mental disorder. Is being straight or gay also a mental disorder ?

are you being honest?
how much loli you see?
do you like loli?

- LH

>Another thing not all of those who rape children are pedophiles many of them just want to feel control. Over someone weaker.
>many of them just want to feel control. Over someone weaker.

Thats the point of raping user, not the point of being a pedo.

>A person's sexuality is not a mental disorder. Is being straight or gay also a mental disorder ?


The problem, is that pedophilla is not a sexuality. It's a mental disorder.

>are you being honest?
Yes mate
>how much loli you see?
Heaps lot. Fucking lots.
do you like loli?
Lots too. I love it.

fair enough, I'll reformulate

do you believe loli (art/drawing/video) is comparable to real CP pornography?
do you believe physical attraction towards 18 yo or less human beings (both male and female) is criminal?

- LH

>Being a pedo is not illegal, fucking inmature assholes is.

b-but...Muh feelings!

im a pedo
its not a crime.
rape is crime.
im not a rapist.
molesting is crime.
i dont molest children. i dont even talk to them.
i dont consider it a mental illness, as it in itself is harmless.

Yes, pedophillia is absolutely a mental disorder. There is no "choice" you can make to be a pedophile.

As is the case with the first responder, I'm sure there are plenty of pedophiles who hate what they are and try their damnedest to be a good person.

Not every pedophile would rape a child. It's horrific, and most all pedophiles, I'd dare say, have the common human decency to know that.

For the most part these people do not need to be jailed, just rehabilitated. They just need help.

have you ever had problems with that?
do you have any problem around children?
would you commit anything illegal against children?
do you consider such a fetish to be negative or harmful?

- LH

whatcha mean lol

...

You are obviously not normal

>do you believe loli (art/drawing/video) is comparable to real CP pornography?

CP is defined as child pornograhy, In some ways it would be child pornography however it is simply a drawing, no real person is being harmed. So I have no opinions or feelings towards it.

>do you believe physical attraction towards 18 yo or less human beings (both male and female) is criminal?

Well, that's not precisely a crime, is it a crime for a homosexual man to find me attractive?

No. It is not a crime. Unless you plan on actually breaking a law.

You have no idea.

>Pedophiles are a threat to children
>Kill pedophiles
Yeah I think humans got the right instinct on this one. Kill pedophiles where you find them and then we wont have a problem.

But, what if they do not bother society and simply just live their own lives in peace? Would they still need rehabilitation?

old school pedo here. I am also a sex offender.

The idea that pedophilia is a mental disorder is a lie. I go to work every day i put my pants on like everyone else. The public seems to think that every pedophile is some kind of ticking time bomb read to go off on the nearest sexy child they see. But we are not like that at all.

A person's sexual preferences are not a mental disorder you retard. Go back to the 20th century

I think actual pedophiles, people attravted to prepubscent persons, need our help and our empathy. However, I think everyone else needs to get off their high horse about ephebophilia and hebephilia.

If a girl has forming hips to facilitate childbirth, budding breasts to nurse their young, and ovulating to produce offspring, then it's biologically relevant therefore psychologically sound for me to be attracted to that. This is corroborated by the latest Diagnostic and Statistical Manual for Mental Disorders (DSM-V) explicitly excluding those preferences despite a minor group wanting to include it because they did not want to pathologize a reproductively valid attraction. In other words, a foot feitsh is more unnatural than hebephilia.

Sorry I diverged a bit off topic, but that's where my interests lie.

Nature makes teenagers attractive, as with flowers. Nature WANTS them to reproduce. And they CAN reproduce. Our laws say they are not allowed to reproduce.

>have you ever had problems with that?
With what? liking lolis? not at all.
>do you have any problem around children?
Not at all. As I said, you can act normal if you don't suppress your urges. Suppressing your true feelings leads to do stupid things.
I have a daughter too.
>would you commit anything illegal against children?
Meat is weak, I am only a human, I know that if a sexy loli spreads his legs in my face I will succumb, but I haven't done anything illegal yet.
>do you consider such a fetish to be negative or harmful?
Not at all. Frustrating that is. The fetish itself is not harming to yourself, or the others around you. Its just that is not a social accepted fetish, most people react how is meant to be now days, and not how they really feel about it.

The best way you will live in peace and joy is as soon as you accept who you are user

I was the same way. I just learned this is what I am, I accepted it. I don't bother people I don't download child porn, I just simply live and enjoy what I do.

We live once, don't mope your whole life.

And you can either exercise some self control, or be a nigger.

Cure yourself from faggotry first then offer to help out.

i wish some of the old pro-pedophile forums from the late 90's were still around, like Open Hands. It would have been a great place for people to visit and see the truth of pedophiles.

Well if you can change your sexuality to liking women or men your age can you do it?

>their high horse about ephebophilia and hebephilia.
True. Chronophilia is the right term for all those. They are all in the same bag.

Actually, it's their parents who say you can't fuck them.

tl;dr
having vile thoughts and not acting on them is something everyone does.
It's also called being a normal human being.

Acting on those impulses and being obsessively fetishistic about children or pineapples or whatever is the problem

This nigga gets it

People can have thoughts about fucking a 16 year old and it's fine

But when she's 8 or 9 I should have my dick cut off when i didn't actually do a thing

I'm actually very sorprised with this thread, certainly not the bait I expected

Please, feel free to ask anything you want

In your opinion, what is the fundamental problem with peadophilia in society? As far as I know, paedophilia wasn't normal, but kind of common, in human history, up to the humanism arrival in the XVIII century, where childhood protection became a necessity. But I believe there's been a overeaction towards sexual attitudes in society, mainly because of religion and civic interest. In my field of study, it's considered normal and sane for a children to experiment sexuality around his 14-15 (male) or 12 (female), wouldn't it be good to permit sexual interaction between an adult (more than 20) and a teenager (15-16)?

- LH

Being attracted to women is a mental disorder. It is completely wrong. Seek help because it is not normal to be straight. You have a choice. You need to be rehabilitated because it doesn't match the normal faggot world. If you want adult pussy kys

As long as no real children are involved I don't care what your fetish is. The second a real kid is involved you should be castrated at the bare minimum. Also personal responsibility to minimize temptation needs to be encouraged, namely avoid kids.

As far as treating it medically goes, I don't know that there's much we can do at this point in time. If we had some none offending pedos come forward and volunteer to be treated experimentally we could at least start working on the problem, but then who would pay for it? The public wont want tax dollars going to help child predators (as they'll see it) the individual would need to seek psychiatric help themselves and confess everything to the therapist on their own dime. That's a lot to ask of someone who rightly fears social ostracization.

So I guess what I'm saying is keep it to fictional lolis and such. Keep it secret. Avoid real children like the plague. If you can afford it get psychiatric help, even if it doesn't help you it may help science and those who come after you. Maybe in your will or on your deathbed you can confess and donate your brain to science for whatever that's worth. You will never be liked or accepted. Even those who can empathize with you wont do so publicly.

I do but only because this is an instance where the ethical and legal repercussions outweigh my own personal morality. I see nothing wrong with persuing an adolescent-adult sexual relation so long as the adolescent is already sexually active and the adult isn't using any perceived position of power to influence the adolescent's decision making process.

Not really.

The term chronophilia was used by John Money to describe a form of paraphilia in which an individual experiences sexual attraction limited to individuals of particular age ranges.[1][2] The term has not been widely adopted by sexologists, who instead use terms that refer to the specific age range in question

>[1][2]
what

I thank you for your honesty, and I wish you to be better understood, and not judged. I learned a lot

- LH

This is actually a very strong argument.

I too would argue that if a person who has reached an age where they are sexually educated old enough to consent then I suppose there is no problem here.

Infact some states have an age of consent to 16.

No harm, no foul. As long as they keep it to themselves and don't actually molest children, it's fine.

All humans are a threat to all other humans. That's why society can exist. The social contract is necessary because of this threat.

Think of it as your little mystery to solve.

This nigga right here gets it

Fucking thank you.

Why is it that it's not okay to look at drawn lolis but it's perfectly fine for people to fantasie about having sex with a 15 year old

No worries mate.

Yes being a fag is a mental disorder

Most states aee 16, actually. Furthermore, there's a workaround in some states likes Mass and New Hampshire that would allow 12 or 13 if you're married. It may be hard for an adult to mary a minor, but it's by no means impossible.

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being a pedo just like being a gay
we don't want cure

Way to treat it? Chemical castration. Thats where we should start, then look at the psychological side. Pedophilia is the fixation and sexually obsession with pre-pubescent children

They are like snackbars. Not all of them are violent, but some and they cause lots of damage.

Altough the age of consent should be lovered to 16

Gay people feel like they are hiding in a closet.

Pedo people feel like they must be stay hidden in a panic room.

Thats where the problem start.

You have zero understanding of how the brain works

There is one argument, and one argument alone..... pic related

Would you become gay or transgender if society deems it wrong not to be?

That's because I'm not baiting

>In your opinion, what is the fundamental problem with peadophilia in society?

First of all, how would you feel if society showed complete and utter disgust towards you for something you can't help? Being labeled horrible things? You grow to hate society, therefore you do not care for their laws, rules, or culture which means you're basically "you know what fuck these guys, I'm going to do what I want to do" Which is...Raping/harming a child or kidnapping one for decades.

Next, the media. Everytime a pedophile is exposed on TV, now don't get me wrong they deserve to be exposed, but how they're painting pedophiles as men in trench coats ready to abduct rape, torture, and kill your child is not only complete blant out ignorance, but also causes mass panic and lack of understanding of the disorder.

So what does that result? More and more pedophiles who stay hidden from the public. They won't seek help, they wont feel welcome in this world, they won't have any real joys in their life.

They live in fear that one day they will be exposed. Having that will never give peace of mind.

Some people might see being straight as a mental disorder

The American Psychiatric Association's Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-IV) definespedophiliaas recurrent sexually arousing fantasies, impulsive desires, or behaviors involving sexual acts with a child and that occur over a period of at least six months.May 10, 2010

Would I?

No. I'm happy with who I am, but yes I would If I wanted.

Now you say pedophilla is a sexuality I am simply asking since it's your preferred sexuality isnt it possible for you to change it?

should I post some?

Child porn is defined as the sexual depiction of a child.. Drawings are depictions.

there's a more recent version, DSM-V
paedophilia isn't included

The problem is that today's society has complete lack of understanding towards pedophilla, remember homosexuals in the 1960s?

If it's a disorder or not people still have no fucking clue how it works

No fag, we're having a legit debate for once don't ruin it with your cancerous lolis

any type of sexuality not related to heterosexual relationships are a mental disorder. why? because sex is intended for procreation, you can't impregnate an 8 year old child and two of the same sex can't procreate, therefore it is a mental disorder that they don't naturally be attracted to the opposite sex in an age that one can procreate.

You can't change your sexual orientation user, jesus

The problem with any mental illness is that behaviour can be rationalised because of said illness.

Through the eyes of a pedophile, there does not seem to anything wrong with fucking a 12 or 14 year old because they're developed. They also see no problem with doing stuff with children as long as they're asleep or they're young or getting them to stay quiet in the deluded belief it is doing them no harm.

That said, i cannot stand pedophiles but not all pedophiles are bad people. From my experience they seem to be selfish vindictive controlling people with no conscience or regard to others. if they had I would not be seeing all the news about children being groomed or raped.

i personally believe that we need improvement in science so that parents and carers can have adapted CT scans to see for any chemistry which might suggest they are a pedophile and ban them for life, and possibly the death penalty for those who choose to abuse as it would be the ultimate deterrent.

Pedophiles arent the problem, shitty people are and they need to be stopped before it happens.

It's defined as a psychosexual disorder by the America psychology institute. Therefore it's a disorder. Stfu creep

Except fucking an 8 year old child is not homosexuality or hetrosexuality

Sexuality is being sexually attracted to males, or females

not certain ages.

I am happy with who I am too. And no I can't change it

the same group that used to say being gay was a disorder or being trans was a disorder. yeah/nah i'll stick with my own beliefs in this case.

>Through the eyes of a pedophile, there does not seem to anything wrong with fucking a 12 or 14 year old because they're developed

Not all of them think this, many understand it's illegal and will never do it.

>
i personally believe that we need improvement in science so that parents and carers can have adapted CT scans to see for any chemistry which might suggest they are a pedophile and ban them for life, and possibly the death penalty for those who choose to abuse as it would be the ultimate deterrent.

many people will never believe their child is a pedophile or will allow it.

Should we ban psychopaths for life? When a child shows signs of psychopathy he receives treatment immediately, why not ban these?

Whatever floats your boat user, just stay safe and don't fuck kids.

However, sexuality is being sexually attracted to males or females. Not age groups.

>sexual depiction of a child
Actually the law says "with" a child.
Pen and ink, or even pixels for that matter, which used and arranged in such a way
as to resemble a fictional, non-existent child is..., guess what..., NOT A CHILD.
But feel free to carry on with your misconceptions if it make you feel rightious.

I don't have a problems with it as a mental disorder, I have a problem when they act on that disorder and abduct, steal, kidnap a child and force them into sexual acts. Or they "groom" the child and then take advantage. Either way, the child doesn't fully understand what's happening to them, because a six year old isn't interested in having sex with anyone nevermind their 45 year old uncle who's taken them into the basement to fuck.

pedofags of Sup Forums

Do you like lolis? If so why?

Would you save CP? If so why? it's extremely risky.

Would you if you could ever molest or rape a child?

My gf is 14, she is the bestfriend of my sister, and I'm 24. We are happy, we don't have sex, and that's ok.
And once she reach 15 it will be legal. What will be the difference then except 5 months ?

There has been a case of a 8yo becoming pregnant. Must be okay then

I am genuinely surprised how you anons are behaving. I was expecting a huge full out shitstorm

I have sex because it feels good.

I don't want to have kids.

What is my mental disorder?

well that's because your satan

I stay well away from them

Look at the philosophy of 'love'

People ask "what is love?" "When is it okay?" "Does it have limits?"

If you truly love your gf for who she is as a person and not her body, then the love is real.

>gay people 1960s: People will never understand our love

>Teen-adult relationship 2016: People will never understand our love

>Human-alien relationship 2116: People will never understand our love

Btw what nation are you in?

nothing. the AoC is bullshit. but i suggest you wait those 5 months user. I hope you both find happiness.

>love is real

I don't believe in love.

The only reason people love each other is because of the pleasure they give to each other

Just look up Epirus, mill, and bentham. Famous philosophers who studied human pleasure and pain.

yes it is possible for a girl to hit puberty stages at the age of 8, it's just uncommon. That's why i said that age, i probably should've said 6-7.

So you plan on having sex when she turns 15?

french

i'm gonna wait anyway even after that, she is not ready for it yet

>first of all that is a mental disorder
stopped reading there

>Human-alien relationship 2116: People will never understand our love