Hey b/ros my friend is arguing that easily US would destroy Russia ... Help me prove him he is wrong

hey b/ros my friend is arguing that easily US would destroy Russia ... Help me prove him he is wrong

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Russia China and Iran are friends.

Sorry... The U.S already lost. End of thread. Any futher replies from her on out is a Hillary supporter.

sorry but he fucked me up when he said that trump and putin used to be friends as well

thats not a useless answer brah!

>US Navy is larger than next 16 navies combined
>US Air force is the largest air force in the world
>US Navy is the 2nd largest air force in the world
>Russia's outdated military is fucking cucked compared to America, it's not even funny

My friend answering, plz help!

i sent him this but, he told me thats not a strong argument, cause afte 100 nuclear bombs none would exist. And the worst part is that he is right

The fuck do you mean by destroy? If you mean the US could resist an invasion from Russia yes probably. If you mean the US could Invade Russia he smoke too much weed

Sorry but I have to sage stupid shit like this

Seriously what do you mean destroying Russia? Do you know how big that shit is? Can you use Google map or you're blind? Even if you nuke them they will hide in bunkers and start living in underground cities. You can't destroy that. They absorbed the Mongolian empire for fuck safe.

Do me a favor and fucking kill him he's an idiot and the world doesn't need him

And I forgot to sage. Fucking end me to

ya, i mean, israel and india could destroy us all if they went to war
so any of those countries can end the world
i would guess your friend means the us would win with conventional weapons, i think he'd be right, they have a serious tech edge in weapons

All of you faggots seem to be forgetting that Zapp Brannigan is the U.S. President, and that he will just send wave after wave of his own men at them until they reach their limit and shut down.
Time to pop the cham-pag-in.

>underground cities.
Sure, can't grow any food. Guess they'll just eat dirt.

Modern russia has never been conqured conventionally. Unless nukes are involved, if you took the entire us army and every army in nato you might make it to the urals before advancing any further is just not practical anymore. Russia is HUGE. When the nazis invaded with several million men under arms they barely made it to the outskirts of moscow. I doubt the US would fare much better

Yeah. US has a lot of expensive toys, Russia has real weapons.

Just look at how much money they burned in syria yesterday. Do you even have the slightest knowledge of what even a single tomahawk missile costs? And they had to use multiple to destroy some syrian cold war equipment and kill half a dozen people. At this ratio they would need more money than there even exists on this planet to even call a draw with the russians.

You know who by the time of ww2 had the most advanced equipment? Thats right. Nazi germany. And they still lost because it doesnt matter if the bullet that kills a man is fired from a high tech rifle or an rusted ancient gun.

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Look at this stupid fucking American who can't accept reality and laugh. The world is never going to let you destroy Russia.

>B-B-but we fooking stronk mofoka look at all this mooney

fuck off you're an idiot. They will eat Hydroponic food and by the rest from china. BTW you still own a lot of money to China

china poses more of a "threat"

Mad?

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Russia also have an uncucked population who will fight to death like true warriors. They get their ass handed to them by Putin in Syria and their head is so far up their own ass they think they can destroy them.

TOP FUCKING KEK

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and none of those things matter when both sides can destroy the world. those toys are nice when you fight against enemies that don't have nukes.

I'm quick replying, and really don't give a fuck about this thread.

I just wanted to let y'all know, you are fucking idiots who don't know a thing they are talking about.

I'm out you have no arguments and you just want to trigger me. Fuck you and your circumcised dick

This might be the dumbest thing I've read in a while....it's like you're trying to convince yourself with your own words. Grow up, russia is like a toddler compared to America. It's just fact

Nice bait

And why is this user?

He's trolling you. He just want a attention and a reply

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_empires

Can you see The American Empire in the top 5? because I can see the Russian empire

You do realize about 80% of Russia is bumfuck, uncolonized woodland and steppe?

I figured as much, I was just holding out hope that he had more then I'm a troll hear me roar

Well fucking take it if you can

Just look at how the US intelligent servises and US mercenarys get their ass beaten in ukraine by low tier russian soldiers.

That shows who is spending his budget on military equipment and who is spending it on bullshit.

Time for and idiot logic break down.

One tomahawk cruise missile is about a million bucks. 60 million out of the defense budget is a drop in the fucking bucket. The Pentagon loses track of more money than that every day.

They were used because their range means no American needed to cross into Syrian airspace to deliver them.

Despite the Syrians and Russians being warned hours ahead of time of the in coming strike on that base, none of those middle were shot down. And they couldn't even move all of their planes out of harms way.

These aren't toys. They are weapons. Weapons Russia doesn't have an answer too. But we know that Russia doesn't need to. They got what they wanted. A little pissing contest to show the world Trump and Putin aren't BFFs.

Who the fuck do you think have Syria the chemicals weapons?

how much of the war would really be done at sea?

Which gives the defending russians a huge advantage when fighting an invading army. They can sacrifice land for time and to draw the invading force into extending their supply lines to the point where they are easily broken

and tundra. It's funny how big Russia and how much of its territories are uninhabitable tundra. You cant even use the 90% of Russian land for agriculture lol.

>absorbed the Mongolian empire

Thats an interesting was of saying they were the last bitches to throw off their yoke and stop paying them tribute. over a hundred years after fucking poland kicked them out.

When both sides need to import oil from sand nigger to keep all their equipment moving, a large portion would be done at sea.

mutually assured destruction would conceivably prevent any sort of serious war between US and Russia.That is, for people who arent desperate and insane. DOes not make me feel great that I'm supposed to trust that Trump-Putin arent desperate and insane. God fucking help us

>destroy Russia
Probably

>easily
NOOOOOPE

what are you talking about, the world, the establishment, the eu, hate russia

Everyone posting in this thread is so retarded I won't even bother making an actual post. Instead of having a fucking wank fest on Sup Forums just read some of the dozens of well-researched articles published by actual military strategists that can easily be Googled.

>MAINLAND RUSSIA HERE I COME

That'd be the case if we still used cavalry and wagons.

>Thinking Napoleonic era tactics would work

They hate Putin's politics, not Russia. Don't be naive.

But that doesn't mean they will let you destroy it.

You can't beat Russia or the US. It's called MAD mutually assured destruction. Nukes end wars. However if this was a non nuke war, also tied, only people to hold Moscow was Mongols or Poles because the rest couldn't survive and fight in Russian winters. The US is practically uninvadeable on US mainland with our navies blocking sea entrances and air force patrolling all skies. The US may have an edge though, chemical warfare. Agent orange hasn't been used since the Vietnam war and it is still affecting people there and the children of people hit with it since it's also a genetic weapon.

Who were; the Nazis?

So Putin gets Syria to use WMDs and force a US response all to cause a minor public pissing match, and all of the sudden no one believes they are buddies anymore.

Uhh if Russia wanted to win they'd need an invasion force mounted by sea. The primary reason the US is literally undefeatable in full scale war without nuclear arms is because we would sink an invading force before they'd reach our shores.

Meanwhile we have our navy all over the world capable of "fighting terrorism" when in reality they have first strike capability on anyone that is a threat.

Why do you think China gets all huffy whenever we sail near their coast?

THIS.
US would win, but it would be very costly.

>Running out of oil
>Multiple war fronts
>Unmotivated factory workforce
>Inferior gun oil temperature tolerance
>Multiple powers
>mfw

They would destroy each other, and take the rest of the world with them.

M.A.D (Mutually Asured Destruction) this is why they didn't go to war durring the 'cold war' era

Watch this movie, it's good for an oldie

youtube.com/watch?v=Iyy9n8r16hs

Nothing glamorous about the aftermath of nuclear war.

You actually think the winter would matter one tiny bit? It's not 1945. The US would just control the waters and then the air.

No, dont get me wrong. I've been floating my theory all day that the atrocity in Syria was a planned distraction between Putin and Trump to take the heat off Trump-Russia scandal and give Trump a win.

BUt good friends can become the worst enemies, especially if shit starts really hitting the fan for either one of them or both

Russia is BROKE they're going through a BAD recession right now. US would win imo

They were the people that only lost in Russia because of the opening of a second front by the allied powers. If D day came 6 months later Russia would have fallen to the Nazis

Milfagg here. We've done training for the "Russian threat" recently. We would win, it would be a hefty fucking price but we win hands down. The aftermath of disturbing the political ecosystem afterwards would probably fuck us pretty bad.

More likely it's been all Putin and Trump played right into it. Maybe jumped at the chance to piss on Russia's little buddy. But I doubt they colaberated on it.

>milfagg
>milf

>Thinking modern armies dont need supplies and logistics in the same way

Do you have any idea how much fuel a main battpe tank consumes in a day? That shit cant be conjured out of thin air. Same with food, munitions, spare parts and a whole host of other shit. Just because horses and wagons arent used anymore doesnt mean that a long and extended supply lines are not vulnerable to being broken

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>One tomahawk cruise missile is about a million bucks.

And all these planes combined where about the value of half a million. Even when you count the additional destroyed equipment you dont come close to that price

>They were used because their range means no American needed to cross into Syrian airspace to deliver them.

Yeah. Because the US feard to lose its high tech planes to cold war planes or anti aircraft weapons from syria. Dont you see how you just supported my argument?

>Despite the Syrians and Russians being warned hours ahead of time of the in coming strike on that base, none of those middle were shot down.

BS as always. Israel also always claims to warn the people before they drop their bombs but its just a bs claim because it doesnt make sense to bomb an empty area.

>These aren't toys. They are weapons. Weapons Russia doesn't have an answer too.

IF russia would want to start ww3 over this worthless syrian garbage theyd have sunk the ship these missiles came from within an hour.
>doesn't have an answer too.

>Who the fuck do you think have Syria the chemicals weapons?

There is no proof this chemical weapons were used by assad. But as history showed the US never cared if their claims about weapons of mass destruction were true when they wanted to go to war, right?

we'll probably never know. But the timing is awful convenient for Trump and it absolutely has taken the wind out of the Trump-Russia coverage

It is extremely easy to answer:

Mutually assured destruction.
There will be no winners.

>IF russia would want to start ww3 over this worthless syrian garbage theyd have sunk the ship these missiles came from within an hour.


Yeah, no shit. However Russia can't afford 3WW, so...

>Not a Trump supporter, but the way he laid his balls on the table yesterday, while the President of China ate dinner off of HIS fine China, and as missiles were being fired into Syria, you'd think Donny is ready to rule the world. Either that, or he's as dumb as a box of dicks.

How rude of me, I forgot to check your dubs.
Also, do you think Putin orchestrated it as a handout for Trump?

like they tell you welfare queens anything real.

The fact that the debate is down to how the US maintains supply while they are buttfucking Ivan kinda proves who the superior force is.

Good thing the US has ten aircraft carriers and the entire continent of Europe then.

The main german eastern army "heeresgruppe mitte" was crushed by the russians mor than 2 months before d day. The only difference d day made in the war is that the russians could stop their attacks when they conquerd berlin and didnt have to beat the nazis the whole way through france as well

Are you stupid? The russians had routed the nazis completely at this point in the war. If d day happend 6 months later the russians would have still been well on their way to germany

Not much considering the us navy would wipe them the fuck out. The point you are missing is Russian imports. Every country imports products, and a country the size of Russia, they really on a lot of imports. With the is holding the seas they can effectively cut off this supply route that who knows how many people rely on to live. Naval force has been a deciding factor for centuries for a reason. Don't discount its effectiveness.

You say as you eat chicken nuggets at your moms house.

businessinsider. com/how-long-would-the-us-military-last-in-a-war-against-the-rest-of-the-world-2016-3

hmm, couldn't beat Russia?

Unlike the bitch who actually signs up to have some retard tell him where to eat his chicken nuggets. Ultimate bottom bitch.

Yeah. Because nazi germany could afford ww2, right? Have you took a sight at how fucked up their economics were when they invaded poland?

I dont think so.

I am not arguing who would win I'm trying to get the point across that invading russia isnt going to be like the road to bagdad

You have any idea how far it is from poland to the ural mountains or the baltic sea?

On my opinion I dont think it is a coincidence that since the metro suicide bomber in Russia, then the next day a lot of people get gassed all of the sudden ?
Then Trump phones Russia to tell them the base a Syrian base is going to get bombed ?
not even a conspiracy theorist but come on.

Jesus you're fucking retarded.

The Russians confirmed the warning. The goal was to fuck up an air base, not to kill the Russians that were at the base. Russian fatalities would change this whole thing politically.

The motivation for cruise missiles over pilots is political as well. No one in American gives a fuck really so long as no soldiers or pilots are put in harms way. And there's no way they could send pilots into that mission after letting the Syrians and Russians know that we were coming.

Russia has no assets on station that could sink those destroyers. The Russian carrier left the gulf last month. And Russian subs are as loud as a washing machine full of bricks.

For a few days, but unless Trump orders more attacks, CNN and MSNBC will be riding his jock again. More than half of America wants regime change in America, which out-weighs Trump wanting regime change in Syria. Republicans are already defecting.

Please tell me all your knowledge of the u.s. Military, keyboard warrior. I am very interested in your lack of knowledge. I need some laughs tonight before I go to the bar to fuck all the girls your limp little weenie couldn't. Now, continue.

Eurofag here.

You're alone on this. When you and the russians start a fight we mind our own business. We've seen the docs on what your plan was if the russians would have invaded us during cold war so dont expect us to act any different when you dip your dick in shit.

As long as the russians dont attack us we are totally fine with them destroying you

Had to screen cap that

Stalin was begging for the second front to be opened for months because he was on the edge of losing. Despite the fact that that Nazis had large amounts of forces sitting in France waiting for the invasion

this is true

Get over it Eurofag. You would all be speaking Russian right now if we didnt clean up the mess after the last world war

Russians are retarded, their "tactics" equate to a toddler playing with building blocks and their command is too rigid and uncompromising to win in any battle where the opponent is professional and isn't a sandnigger in rags.

All they have to their adventage is their mass number and the winter, both of which were the only reason they managed to "win" ww2 and neither of which is going to be of any use to them in a nuclear war.

That's what you get when you kill all of your intellectual individuals and keep an entire country of mindnumb sheep.

Russia needs to go.

*during and after the last world war

When it comes to conventional warfare, the USA would have a huge strategic advantage over Russia due to its rediculous number of carrier groups patrolling the seas. Any attack on Russia would no doubt be initiated by waves of cruise missiles hammering Russian infrastructure over the course of several days. Conversely, Russia has a huge advantage over American carrier groups since it can in turn overwhelm their defenses with an even larger amount of missiles.

>lmao Russia/the US Carriers would just shoot them down you dumb fuck

No missile defense system in the world can provide complete and total area protection from a missile bombardment. Even the US lacks that capability. Something important is going to get hit.

>Russia/America has better tanks
>Russia/America has better guns
>Russia/America has better helicopters
>Russia/America has better jets

It doesn't matter if the T-10 or T-90 can take out an Abrams or if an Abrams can take them out either. Such comparisons are insignificant in modern military strategy. All we have to do to kill a tank or a helicopter is to hit it with a missile from beyond visible range. Any conventional war between Russia and the USA will almost certainly come down to pure tactics as opposed to technological advantage. However in America's case, if the F-35 works as advertised (lmao) then it would no doubt have a strategic advantage over Russia. The B-2 Spirit is an amazing plane as well, although I severely doubt its antiquated stealth tech can evade modern Russian radar like the F-22 can.

Any Russian attempt to attack the US homeland would be approached in a similar fashion, though with hit-and-run submarine strikes in an attempt to knock out any coastal infrastructure. Other than that Russia completely lacks the ability to even perform a full scale amphibious invasion of the US mainland where the US has significant investments in its naval power. The US Navy literally focuses everything around force projection.

>despite the russians AND SYRIANS being warned

I think you are the retarded here.

No I'm not saying not would be a walk in the park. While I'm confident the US would win. I see no reason to oppose Russia in anyway right now. I don't give a fuck about Syria or Europe. If Russia wants to take all the Ukraine I say let them. We've been Europe's army for far to long. They all brag about their universal health care, but they can only afford it because they don't have to spend much defending themselves. It's time we end that fucking meal ticket.

And he'd be speaking Russian next year if NATO and the US didnt exist

That was BEFORE the nazi army was destroyed at stalingrad. After that the need for a second front was less a matter of survival and more the need to make the red armies advancing on germany able to make it to berlin before the allies could.

srry m8 I can't, you know how many pissed off cunts that are in America, we are a literal rape factory, if those cunts got drafted lots and lots of homosexual skull fucking would ensue. That's just the white Americans god only knows the true horrors the packs of chimps will do to that nation if we gave them fully automatic weapons.

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