PWR BTTM DENIES ALLEGATIONS

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From Ben:
>What has transpired over the past several days has been emotionally overwhelming and difficult to comprehend. Last Thursday, I learned that an anonymous individual had made an allegation of sexual assault against me. This allegation was devastating to me as it is contrary to the intentional way I seek to interact with those around me. As I digested the allegations, I tried to figure out who the individual might be so that I could try to reconcile what I had read with my memory of any particular sexual interaction. I’ve waited to respond to the Jezebel article because the statements made about me by the anonymous source did not line up with any sexual experience I have ever had. Over the past several days, I was able to figure out who the individual was based on what I was reading and my subsequent conversations with Liv. I am not going to breach the anonymity of the person interviewed in Jezebel, but given the serious nature of what was published and its impact, I have to unpack the claims and provide perspective on the details within. We met the night before a show in March 2016 and spent most of the following day together. After the show, she invited me back to her house and we eventually engaged in sex. Based on the nature of our communications and our interactions with one another, I understood our interactions to be fully consensual. We stayed in touch over the course of several weeks by exchanging texts and pictures. Later, she asked if she could stay with me at my home, where we had sex several more times over the course of those days. Again, I understood these interactions to be fully consensual, especially since our ongoing communications continued to be mutual, positive and reciprocal in nature. We did not see each other much after but when we did it was entirely pleasant and we continued to exchange texts, including as recently as March of this year. I had no indication before last week that she had any concerns about our interaction.

who cares

>Last week I learned that, in February of this year, this person had expressed concerns to others about what had transpired between us. I fully embrace and respect this individual’s right to speak out in any manner or forum they choose, including in a Facebook post or anonymously to a Jezebel reporter. It does not diminish that person’s experience or perception. After the initial shock of learning about her concerns, I have tried to understand her experience of our interactions. It would be antithetical to my values to attack, blame, or shame someone who is using the power of call-out culture to name their experience and hold others accountable, even when – or especially if – the individual they seek to hold accountable is me. I fully appreciate that someone’s views about the dynamics of intimate interactions can change and are not always apparent in the moment. While I am open to understanding this person’s perspective, I strongly contest the account put forth in Jezebel. I am firmly committed to consent, to communication, and to mutual expression of sexual interest. The accusations in Jezebel directly conflict with my experience, as it is not my practice to engage in sexual contact without protection, without discussing the issue with my partner, or to engage in the other conduct alleged in the Jezebel article. That being said, in keeping with my commitment to my principles, I believe it is my responsibility to be accountable to this individual’s perspective and to honor it accordingly.

too late. their career is over

clearly you, or else you wouldn't have made the effort to open this thread, type your response, solve the CAPTCHA, and press post.

they took too long

pretty much
taking so long to respond is the worst thing you can do in this situation and it ended up destroying their entire career

you

too late

>One more thing. I have seen posts about people raising concerns about having their boundaries crossed when I have greeted our fans after our shows, something Liv and I do after every performance, taking selfies and thanking folks for coming. This is, again, incredibly shocking news to me, as the safety and well-being of PWR BTTM fans is the most paramount concern I have as a member of this band on and off stage. If my physical contact has made anyone feel uncomfortable, I sincerely apologize and will work hard to have an increased awareness of boundaries moving forward consistent with our commitment to our fans.

From Liv:
>In February, I made contact with the anonymous individual interviewed by Jezebel, someone I knew casually, after hearing that she had made inflammatory accusations about Ben in a private online forum. My intent in reaching out was to learn more and to make myself available in the event that I could be of any help. Our conversation was friendly, but it ended without a plan for any specific next steps. Based upon our discussion, my understanding was that she did not want me to share her identity with Ben unless I had her explicit permission to do so, and I assured her that I would not do so.
>After our conversation, I wanted to discuss with Ben the issues she had raised but I quickly realized that doing so would inevitably reveal her identity. I did not know how to proceed nor did I know where to seek advice about how to move forward. After Ben ascertained the individual's identity on Friday I decided that my withholding information was no longer protecting her privacy and I told Ben about the conversation she and I had.

Yeah right, since he has texts he can sue them all to kingdom come probably including apple or whoever else dropped them from streaming. He's got everyone dead to rights. She is the one who waited too long and now probably will be liable for it.

From PWR BTTM:
>As some of you know, we set up a separate email address back in mid-May so that anyone with information relevant to the situation that was then unfolding could privately share what they knew. At the time we thought it was the right thing to do. We now see that we were putting the onus on others to do something that only works if it is what they want. We have concluded that there is no viable way to do what we were trying to accomplish, with the result that we are going to shut that email address down (we have not and will not look at any emails that may have been sent there to date).
>Finally, to our fans, our friends, our family and those who have supported us unfailingly and who continue to support us unfailingly: thank you from the bottom of our hearts. Having enjoyed the enthusiastic support of so many incredible people throughout our music careers has been a blessing. We love playing music, we love sharing music with others and we want nothing more than to be back performing together soon.

too much like pr
if it was me. i'd be like kanye
IM INNOCENT

Except they're not Kanye, they're two literal faggots who wear women's clothing, cover themselves in paint and glitter, and take it up the ass.

Oh wait, they are like Kanye.

>including apple or whoever else dropped them from streaming
lmao
if he tries to sue any big company he's gonna lose hard. they're not in the wrong here.

How could they have known they would be fucking assassinated like Julius Caesar without proof of the allegations?

If they broke a contract they sure as hell are. They were just betting that "in these extreme and heinous circumstances" that a judge would rule in their favor. They jumped the gun big time. For all we know this was one big trap since he has the holy grail of weeks of text messages.

kek'd

apple didn't drop them. their Label owns the rights to the streaming platforms

do u guys even make music ffs

Oh shit spotify dropped them too. That's probably why they waited. Spotify was the last to do it. They're fucked now.

incorrect

That's not how it works, lol. The label has control over that. Polyvinyl sent a takedown request to Spotify and it was removed.

lol

the whole text thing is meaningless in the eyes of the sjw fan's they have, the same shit like always will pour out

>I was raped but kept in contact with my rapist for years
>texts don't mean anything she was in shock or scared to admit what happened

pandora's box has been opened in regards to public opinion especially for a band who relied on that community.

>from the PWR BTTM of our hearts

I'm almost 100% sure that all their contracts have something about being able to drop them in a situation like this.

I have no fucking clue who these faggots are supposed to be an not the slightest inclination to find out.

Am I getting old?

also
>I had consensual sex with him but he was pushy prior to it so it was rape

Oh well then that's pretty shocking. Too bad polyvinyl doesn't have deep pockets.

t.virgins who watch too much porn

how come PWR BTTM is still on spotify when I search them up now?

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lol good response, but look at the community and how quickly they were torn down?
you think the same people (including Pitch who wrote a piece about them and how the queer community deserves better) will 180 and welcome them back?

b real my dude.

true, but that has nothing to do with my point. kill yourself please

You can still find them but their music is gone

thats their fault for waiting until they could talk to a bs lawyer on how to defend themselves

>never heard of PWR BTTM until this thread
>looks on youtube
>nothing of value lost
>continues to mourn Chris Cornell & his possible deathfap.

nah, all their music is still there and listenable for me. Maybe its a region thing?

That's also not how it works. An artist isn't deleted merely because an album of theirs was deleted. Although, the album still appears to be up outside the US but through the band's other label, which also dropped them. I assume it will be off their page soon.

What country? Are you sure? It pulls up profile and all that crap but their catalog has been yanked. I just checked a few days ago and it was all there and now it's gone.

I literally never heard of them either.

I'm seriously thinking this is all just a huge marketing scam. Bunch of literal whos and suddenly everyone in the ((((music press)))) is talking about them.

Really makes you think.

Norway, all their music is still there for me.

spotify likes money. they aren;t dropping them that fast

ffs, it was officially ruled a suicide. RIP either way

Okay, lets say you are innocent. its still over, your fanbase were sjw morons who think "guilty until proven innocent". Any momentum as a buzz band is gone.
All your music wiped from the internet.

And worst of all, you are giant faggots posting on mu like we like terrible music calculated and put together to be aimed at tumblr millennials

Ben ends it all when

they can just start over tbf

>we
>R Lejun

my point is

PWR BTTM Is done.

Seriously, does anyone care about PWR BTTM besides pitchfork?

rip
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I like how Indieheads is acting like they weren't part of the mass hysteria that believed unconfirmed allegations. They were fucking giddy when it all went down.

nice quads. and yes i know it was. just... michael hutchens, ya know? i guess we'll never know for sure. unless he was found naked?

>im gonna start a band called Deathfap.

I'd join that shit. What type of music would it be?

hutchense i mean.

under a new name and new group yeah.

they'll be first against the wall when ben triumphantly returns with the fourth reich in tow

GLTTR FGS

Yeah I'm sure this niche LGBTQ rock band is a huge cashcow for them that they just can't stand letting go

>going on reddit for music

go back

prog-core grind-folk techno-djent EDM/classical with a grunge-funk twist.

I'd be fine with a mass extermination of those nu-male fucks.

pic related, it's actually an indieheads meetup.

Good riddance! Straight guys role playing to be flaming homosexuals and dressing up like retarded drag queens to entertain the SJW crowds..

Doesn't sound avant-garde enough for me, pass

kek is it 2007 again?

you would be surprised

thefirst single will be 13 minutes of me farting into a watering can, cut on wax records that can only be played once, in a limited run of 13 pressings, left on park benches in eastern European farming communities.

>indieheads meetup

Okay I'm interested now, can my silent reaction to watching you fart be included on the track?

Reform as a death in june tribute band and then i might like them

I guess they realized asking their victims to email them the stories of how they raped them wasn't working and since they have nothing to lose now that they've lost everything they are trying this new tactic.

it would just be pretentious otherwise.

mac demarco clones and death grips shirts

i can only imagine the dank memes being dropped at this meetup

>crazy women with borderline personality disorder regrets having sex with someone and claims rape

wait, I thought he was gay?

you were supposed to.

queer isnt about being gay anymore

I think it would be groundbreaking and blow those guys minds if someone from mu showed up wearing an ironic nickleback shirt and blasting mike love beach boys

neither of them are gay, its an excellent marketing tactic

He only is now that it's fashionable.

SRRY

jesus fucking christ

i unironically wear nickelback tshirts

SRRY NT SRRY

jesus christ

Oddly enough the only tolerable looking one is the guy in the dg shirt.

>birkenstocks
i don't think so

Didn't catch those. Still more tolerable looking than the other fags.

stealing this

>get accused of rape
>put out a bullshit non-statement asking people who you might have raped to email you
>get dropped by record label, touring members, management fans, etc.
>music career practically over
>now is the right time to put out a statement denying the claims

These guys are retarded

BTCHS B CRZY

I'm tempted to buy their album now since it might go up in price in the future.

One of them is a fake trans person. No shit they are retarded. Probably a lot more than just that too.

it's called being a SJW and being eaten by your own community

>Google is the only one to have the album still up

Google confirmed rapists?

cognitive dissonance

This is what they have to fight against

Larry Page raped me

okay, so will Google remove him now? Thank you. I'll get a Jezebel article, that should seal the deal.

From the comments section of their apology, btw