Plagiarism in Music

[Adrian Adams]

What are some of your favorite cases of obvious plagiarism in music?
Reminder that Killing Joke tried to sue Nirvana for stealing their riff...that they themselves stole from The Damned. Fucking idiots.
youtube.com/watch?v=9Pb8AAEsZAo

pic unrelated

[Levi Carter]

Men at Work got their asses sued off for Down Under

[Benjamin Cruz]

Fleetwood Mac's Edge of Seventeen stole the intro from The Police's Bring on the Night

[Jose Bennett]

The bass riff in Ride's Seagull is quite literally the same from The Beatles' Taxman.

[Jayden Collins]

youtube.com/watch?v=y8twlaPM-_4
youtube.com/watch?v=svgRdLHNJIQ

[Zachary Evans]

youtube.com/watch?v=9k7DrIWcrdI

[Jace White]

Stone Temple Pilots song sex type thing has literally the same riff as Danzig's Snakes of Christ

[Jacob Perry]

Zelda fans will hear it. This came out in 1976.
youtu.be/mk4EisAyX7I

[Noah Diaz]

Cigarettes and Alcohol

youtube.com/watch?v=H0LZcpSiE6s

[Daniel Russell]

speaking of zelda
youtu.be/1MXVokm2Qvw?t=46

[Joshua Turner]

youtube.com/watch?v=UNilsLf6eW4

[Oliver Green]

NES Zelda dungeon theme at 03:10
youtu.be/jUcHKQ4G1vo

[Christopher Rodriguez]

What's the difference between plagiarizing and sampling

[Jordan Lewis]

are you retarded?

[Jonathan Ross]

7:45 is Batman: The Animated Series

youtu.be/VMw0EjLFPXw

[Henry Diaz]

Stolen riff:
youtu.be/I-QaFWURsMU

Original riff at 02:22:
youtu.be/4_rYk_aJbcQ

[Jason Hall]

Holy plagiarism, Batman!

[Anthony Reed]

A lesser known one of the many Oasis rips is that Champagne Supernova is a riff on the Kinks' Lola

[Levi Hall]

great addition to the question faggot
there is no difference, you just either gotta pay the original artist or flip it so its "unrecognizable" or use bits that can be argued to be original.

there lots of grey area but realistically, sampling is plagiarism.

[Joseph Wilson]

Led Zeppelin's entire career

[John Gutierrez]

sampling takes no skill

[Brayden Carter]

Einstürzende Neubauten claims that Depeche Mode took a sample from the studio by them. I don't remember the song

[Jack Cruz]

>Ripping off Death
Make this a cardinal sin. Schuldiner deserves better than this.

[Josiah Lee]

but plagiarising does?

no skill is required to spot a half second of audio that can be turned into a whole new song?

retuning? chopping? cleaning? mixing?

if it takes no skill why dont you just shit out a professional mix sampling some old track and make a hit

[Leo Sullivan]

Kid Cudi's Flight at First Sight ripped off Shabazz Palaces' An Echo from the Hosts that Profess Infinitum

It might be coincidental, though. It just sounds like it to me.

Who did they steal?

[Daniel Lee]

Sampling is directly using an audio clip, plagarizing is imitating a musical idea from another song.

[Brandon Sanders]

i remember being a teen and realizing From First to Last jacked Mastodon

youtube.com/watch?v=nLsd1iCEIPU

youtube.com/watch?v=Av-mJ8RFuFU

[Ayden Peterson]

Should also note that plagiarism only occurs if the original source isn't cited.

[Levi Hughes]

tfw the Foo Fighters stole the god of metal's undisputed best riff and got literally zero shit for it

youtube.com/watch?v=bkysjcs5vFU

riff starts at around 1:30
youtube.com/watch?v=V_YlZ1JdcVk

[Michael Turner]

Definitions don't matter to ppl who are trying to discredit hip hop and electronic music so they'll just skip over this post

[Josiah Morris]

Led Zeppelin took 2/10 songs and made them like 4/10!

[Cameron Sullivan]

Reminder that Killing Joke dropped the suit when Kurt Cobain died. And then Dave Grohl sat on the drum stool for Killing Joke on their 2003 s/t album which is one of their best and revitalised their career.

All is right with the world.

[Colton Ward]

Sean Paul steals a lot of music

[Caleb Miller]

But The Damned probably "stole" it from The Kinks or someone, who maybe robbed a Muddy Waters riff, who could have mugged some field recording artist's ditty, who heard a bird singing in a fucking tree or something.

[Brody James]

It's pretty obvious once you hit play
youtube.com/watch?v=aZaSgnYLceQ

[Gavin Garcia]

youtu.be/yERildSsWxM?t=76
youtu.be/jcFKlEfu_eU?t=25

[David Fisher]

Sampling credits whoever they took the audio from and isn't trying to pass it off as their own thing.

[John Ross]

ontheaside.com/uncategorized/10-artists-who-were-sued-for-unauthorized-samples/

[Jacob Gray]

Is every Oasis song just a rework a a British Invasion band's song? Only one I like that I don't think is a rip I'd Live Forever.

[Colton Smith]

Don't know if it could count as plagiarism however one of the songs from Killer Instinct is extremely similar to a song from Tetsuo the Iron Man.

youtube.com/watch?v=dxvzqwgoQb4

youtube.com/watch?v=09UAzg3Ualc

[Andrew Taylor]

After ripping of Nirvana, the guy from Seether has an apparently graduated to ripping off everyone else
>substreammagazine.com/2015/04/did-seether-intentionally-rip-off-brand-news-daisy-for-their-new-single/
>metalsucks.net/2017/05/15/did-seether-rip-off-tool/
>rock108.com/james-patrick/2017/03/03/did-seether-rip-off-chevelle-and-live
>reddit.com/r/Music/comments/290z7m/seether_completely_rip_off_mad_world_and_brand/
>za24h.com/story/celebrities/277680/seethers-new-song-let-you-down-similar-chevelles-take-out-gunman.html

[Kevin Robinson]

Not similar at all and they came out within months of each other..

[Jose Diaz]

Considering Nirvana's entire career was made ripping off the Pixies, I guess you could you say they're just paying it forward.

[Nathaniel White]

This

[Nolan Thomas]

see

[Joshua Evans]

See

[Angel Garcia]

makes me wanna play a zelda game desu

[David Smith]

1.) Plagiarism is taking an idea directly from someone else, executing it yourself so that it seems like your idea, and giving yourself credit for it (or not giving the original person credit for it.)
2.) Sampling is usually defined by taking bits and pieces directly from the original work, not replicating, and incorporating it into your own work so that it serves an almost entirely different purpose.

So sampling is kind of like adding 'sprinkles' to your already finished song, while plagiarizing is basically just covering a song without telling anyone it's a cover.

[Kayden Thomas]

Speaking of The Kinks, plagiarism can't get more blatantly obvious than this

youtube.com/watch?v=B7encWb7lNQ
youtube.com/watch?v=eebfMFzJHNs

[Lucas Robinson]

You can sample something and rerecord it instead of using the original track

[Liam Collins]

Can someone post the one where Swans virtually copied the riff from Oxygen from another artist?

I don't remember who the other artist and, quite frankly, I don't care. They stole it but made it 100x better, so they get a pass.

[Leo Ramirez]

I think you're thinking of Glenn Branca

Either way though Oxygen is at least original enough in comparison, and regardless the album version is what came from the acoustic song that Gira had as a solo thing for a while already so it's not like it was written to copy Branca

[Daniel Mitchell]

What else is open besides your mouth when you're like kissing on some gay dude and like holding his like muscles 'cause his arms just are like wrapped around you and you feel like so safe 'cause you're like... not that you're gay or nothing but God you just want to bury yourself in his chest and just live there forever.

[Henry Nelson]

>faggot
Hi Sup Forums. Come back when you're 18+

[Brandon Adams]

???

I think you might be in the wrong thread

[Logan Cook]

Perfect example. It's the bird in the tree that's been ripped off here.

[Aiden Myers]

speaking of the legend of zelda youtube.com/watch?v=N_tnOXSxVis

[Logan Wood]

youtube.com/watch?v=AiIlcew-GVM
youtube.com/watch?v=7v2GDbEmjGE

[Caleb Jackson]

this song used to make me weep haha
I don't really think it sounds like come as you are though
youtube.com/watch?v=4RmMry47MCg

[Joseph Allen]

this can't be real holy shit

[Jaxson Nelson]

Top kek
>these comments

[Andrew Peterson]

They used the nursery rhyme 'kookaburra sits in the old gum tree' in the flute bit which was owned by some twat record company that sued them

[Josiah Gray]

It is also very similar to a jam song

[Jonathan Allen]

>sat on the drum stool
Cringe

[Nolan Carter]

To be fair they thought it was public domain or traditional, and they (and the Australian public) were unpleasantly surprised that it was not. The rights owners were twats, though.

[Matthew Flores]

As an artist myself, this is too much. I can't support music anymore. I guess I'll just have to find a new artform to appreciate.

[Wyatt Parker]

youtube.com/watch?v=r26krlXFmOI

youtube.com/watch?v=hTWKbfoikeg

[Henry Bailey]

Strawberries is GOAT

[Michael Ramirez]

Ed rush and opticals chubrub

youtu.be/r6QR8A9_iFU

Noisia and the upbeats Dustup

youtu.be/JnhjWUepaE8

It's the same in sense of synths and the beat progression

[Andrew Carter]

fight test is the far superior song desu

[Isaiah Foster]

Maynard James Keenan directly ripped off Michael Gira

Kennan (2007)
youtu.be/o-IW37Onb1Q

Gira (1997)
youtu.be/IUWP1sEdgJ8

[Hudson Davis]

youtube.com/watch?v=fFRkpvvop3I
(3:34)
youtube.com/watch?v=0zGcUoRlhmw

At least the fray got a shit ton of royalties for that one

[Gavin Thomas]

Phantom of the Opera plagiarised a part of Pink Floyd's Echoes.

[Ethan White]

The venn diagram of plagiarism and sampling has overlap but not all sampling is plagiarism. Its perfectly possible to take audio from other sources and use them to make entirely new compositions.

[Blake Moore]

Coldplay using Kraftwerk's "Computer Love" for their single "Talk"

[Jason Perez]

this

[Nolan Rivera]

There's a dutch dub producer who released a load of music in midi format, Skream took at least one of his tracks, slapped some vst presets in, and released it under his name.

[Jace Long]

megadeth stole a riff from riblja corba
youtu.be/wYGDLtlSCms
is
youtube.com/watch?v=S6LL5iA6y9o

[Luke Barnes]

intro riff
youtube.com/watch?v=YiHMy6V5Qjc

youtube.com/watch?v=c0SrxSMHDmE

[Ryder Gomez]

>Brazilian bands
it's happened before where bands have a riff similar to some Brazilian artist

it happened to Sabbath
youtube.com/watch?v=fOnciH5Sy08
youtube.com/watch?v=k7HfCXQSPVY

it was pure coincidence and both parties have been flabbergasted on the similarities of the song

[Asher Reyes]

>some Brazilian artist
lol no it's the most famous serbian band but whatever

that one sounds too much the same

[Levi Lee]

I always wondered if the riff in Faith No More's A Small Victory was based on Helicopter by XTC. I know Mike's a fan of Cardiacs and Oingo Boingo, so it wouldn't surprise me if he was an XTC fan as well.
youtube.com/watch?v=tO8y5nKSr0U
youtube.com/watch?v=n4AlYVFC4RM

[Cameron Ross]

youtu.be/3L3lGwOyYoo
youtu.be/3j8ecF8Wt4E

[Benjamin Smith]

For some reason around the time of their self-titled Blur had a habit of ripping off Bowie:
youtube.com/watch?v=8BkbmQnau7Y
youtube.com/watch?v=UMhFyWEMlD4

youtube.com/watch?v=8Tt5wLujYQg
youtube.com/watch?v=3JWGXagA1MI

[Adrian Cooper]

didn't mean some as to imply there where some second-rate musicians board-lining on the fridges of obscurity

but rather i used the word "some" as plural for multiple Brazilians artists

[Jaxson Reed]

ok I'm just saying riblja corba is serbian

[Aaron Torres]

lel fooking slavs tricked me thought that said cordoba
youtube.com/watch?v=4Hv7ticWWKY

[Easton Hernandez]

Karma by Pharoh sanders is just a love supreme

[Josiah Peterson]

lmao
it meands 'fish soup'
yeah that song is one of their biggest hits
they used to be my favorite band until I got internet connection lol
i still love them
youtube.com/watch?v=hFOYEl3ZGwI

[Josiah Edwards]

youtube.com/watch?v=vB388dRtkwk
youtube.com/watch?v=czPZ3YbnTpY

[Kevin Morales]

youtube.com/watch?v=gvncyMqXrdU (1997)
youtube.com/watch?v=VPlURQI0bcc (2002)

youtube.com/watch?v=IIm4yfhlKUQ(2001)
youtube.com/watch?v=UxjmFCzW2rE (2002)

[Blake Jackson]

thought it's gonna be na na na na n a na na n a

[Connor Edwards]

LCD Soundsystem did this a bit, largely I think as homages rather than stealing though. Here's one I don't see mentioned a lot though:
youtube.com/watch?v=gJ2np7R-Uwg
youtube.com/watch?v=-JdWayrLXUs

[Xavier Foster]

youtube.com/watch?v=eoyEVTN_h9I
youtube.com/watch?v=ZyNc3wkJL1Y

hence the fish bone logo... thanks for the dubs

[Adrian Adams]

youtube.com/watch?v=0S3fpgrZ9ys

[Bentley Phillips]

youtube.com/watch?v=2U3rY3fZ5vU
WINDMILL WINDMILL FOR THE LAND

[Elijah Brooks]

yeah and the ribs part is pic related since the frontman is a patriot

[Robert Williams]

Rod Stewart had to settle with Jorge Ben for basically ripping of Taj Mahal on Do Ya Think I'm Sexy?

youtube.com/watch?v=Hphwfq1wLJs
youtube.com/watch?v=v3xFKwH-EwI

[Ian Collins]

youtube.com/watch?v=E-ZteS4MV18
youtu.be/0Z4cLmbw6q0?t=27

youtube.com/watch?v=xvODHnpKf8g
youtube.com/watch?v=Mri3NQNFadA

youtu.be/WJW_ldC7sUA
youtu.be/TaXqU7hVVhI

[Logan Anderson]

Sorry no one fell for your bait, here's a (you).