So... dare i say... these two are the best players in their team? by far?

So... dare i say... these two are the best players in their team? by far?

No

Scoring goals doesn't make up for the fact he's a shit CB

He's the most clutch player in football right now tho. And Luka is "ballon d'or" material if it wasnt a rigged award.

Messi of you actually watch football was still the best player last season but yes Modric should be nominated ahead of dindunaldo who has been bailed by Ramos in two CL finals now

is it always a modric assisted corner that ramos heads in? They click really well together

>Messhit

this is what people believe from /eplel/ brainwashing.

>Ramos excels in big games
>Messi chokes in big games

Do you even consider not to be retarded?

Bale

>Le corner man and le clutch man

Being the key players of the team doesn't necessarily means they are the best players

faverges 1800

Ramos was a great CB in between 2008 and 2013 desu

Ramos is a fucking shit defender if you don't realize that you probably have downs

idk what the fuck his problem is but he will never be goat

>scorethe the winning goal in two CL final and in a lot of CL semi
>not clutch

>bottle your only chance at a relevant international trophy

Modric is, but Ramos is a clutch who isn't doing the job he's supposed to do as CB.

Best Madrid players:
>Modric
>Bayol
>Kroos
>Nazi Frog
>Marcelo

>scorethe the winning goal in two CL final
when did this happen?

>ITT: It's 2014

Ramos is great against powerful 9s, his weakness are little manlets like suarez and griezmann, to easy for him

Suarez is the same height as Ramos

manlet a state of mind

Bayol > Modric > Ramos > Tsunaldo > everyone else

Modric and Bale.

Thank you based Tottenham's kikes.

youre a retard