Do think she could have made it. I mean if she didn't act like such a cunt

Do think she could have made it. I mean if she didn't act like such a cunt.

>do think
You do?

She's always been terrible at campaigning. I read somewhere that she has decided that would be her last political race. I'm glad she won't be around to burden the party any more.

how's the autism kid?

You forget her legacy.

She may not run but I am willing to bet serious cash her daughter does.

>She may not run but I am willing to bet serious cash her daughter does.
She's going to have a hard time winning much of anything if she refuses to throw off her mothers "legacy"

If the democrats had really wanted to win they should have had her drop out and endorse bernie not the other way around that was the only hope they had

She looks just as crazy as her mother.

It's a shame they pissed away that opportunity to pander to this old bitch. The party really needs to get the riff raff back under control.

I think not.

>She doesn't have the political baggage
Something they learned from Obama
>Democrats will love her because of her legacy
>First woman president unless Michelle attempts it and motivates the apes

I see her positioning for the 2024 election cycle.

Even a blind democrat can see Trump is going to be partially successful because Obama left a mess.

Bernie is a pipe dream.

Bernie is not in bed with the democrat establishment.

>because Obama left a mess.
It only looks that way if you're rural trash, watching your shitty community slowly wither and die.

she did by four million votes, we all lost due to the system

>Trump is going to be partially successful because Obama left a mess
bait

edgy

how is that edgy

Okay let's face the facts even if Hillary had gotten more votes there was no way in hell she was going to be president. The general feeling Nationwide on our first experience with a president outside of the norm is generally seen as a failure. I truly doubt we're going to see a president outside of that Norm again anytime soon.

She honestly should have won. Trump was easily a worse candidate. All she really had to do was run a reasonable campaign, talk about her own ideas, and appear competent.

But she couldn't do that. The crux of her campaign was:

1. I'm a woman, and it's time a woman is President.
2. That other guy is terrible

Both of those things are true, but you can't run a campaign on those things. People need to feel inspired. Trump was full of lies, but he inspired people with his drivel. No one knew what Hillary stood for anyway, seeing as how she was bought out long ago by corporations. Hillary would be President now if she hadn't fucked it up. Maybe don't refer to the people you're trying to court as "deplorables". That seems to be a good campaign strategy, something her campaign was completely without.

ALL SHE HAD TO DO WAS NOT FUCK UP, BUT THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT SHE DID.

ACA is a failure economically (Requires Congress)

On that one thing if he can partially fix it he's golden.

>Holding to the immigration laws
>Tax reform (Requires Congress)
>Reform the lobby process (Required Congress)

He isn't doing anything new.
He is looking at past administrations to determine a course of action.
Democrat and Republican.

You all make him out like an idiot.
The only idiot move he made was running and getting elected.

Now he is finding out how much of a pain in the ass it is.

You've lost me
What do you mean by norm? and what do you mean she wouldn't have been president if she had gotten more votes?

She's unelectable. People just hate her. The only way she could win is if she ran against someone less popular than her, and even trump managed to make it above that bar.

At the very least I can enjoy the fact that he does not seem to be enjoying himself even one bit.

feels so shit man
You gotta feel sorry for Obama really, having his legacy and everything he worked on ruined by a shitty campaign

Yeah. Must suck being a billionaire.

Sooner or later the tables will turn and Democrats will again be in power, then Trump gets to watch his legacy (for lack of a better word) be dissolved and many of Obama's policies will be reinstated.

he's a billionaire but he's more or less powerless, which, i hope, is going to make him feel like shite

>You all make him out like an idiot.
I don't think he's an idiot. I think he's a very smart (if lazy) guy with a very deep understanding of what very stupid people want.

Sure, but she had to much against her. Republicans rigged districts so that areas that would vote democrat where worth nothing, russia, southerners that "Aint gunna put up with no cunt bleeding all over mah white house!"
etc.

All the more reason why rural counties shouldn't get to vote.

May I just say, for all he was good for, Sanders, had he made it to the presidency, would have struggled to keep momentum up, fighting against a rep majority congress and senate to push his massive plans through...

Last year, America was well and truly fucked from the start

Biden really should have gone for it

OBAMA WAS THE ONE PLAYING 5D SPACE YAHZEE ALL ALONG

By norm i mean old white men. Obama was the first time we've stepped out of that it wont happen again soon

I don't think people care that much anymore, americans aren't THAT far behind on social issues

>Biden really should have gone for it
That would have been a very easy victory for him.

true.

The thing I said before he got elected was the worst thing that can happen to him is if he wins.

>now everything he does is in the spotlight
>he has a bunch of baby congress men and women from both sides ignoring or undermining him,
>he has to worry about the world stage and stupid dicks like north korea
>democrats are resisting him on everything even when it's in their best interest (insanity)
>rinos and establishment are against him because he isn't establishment
>during the campaign he pissed off the one guy who might be able to help his ass; Cruz, who wrote a tell all book on these assholes.

So yep, he's screwed.

I think the more boundaries that are crossed for the first time, the less America will be scared of it

Like has happened in the UK, having a female prime minister for the second time doesn't feel like a shock or anything new, even if Thatcher was an extremely controversial figure

>americans aren't THAT far behind on social issues
Most of us aren't. But the country has been hijacked by the rural filth living in the insignificant, backwater, podunk, ass end of nowhere, more cornfields than people parts of the country who are much further behind everyone else. Until we get the rural trash back into line we're fucked.

Yeah nobody made any sort of deal out of Theresa May becoming unelected prime minister, at least not in the context of her gender

Exactly, someone with real political knowledge and confidence. Hillary was good, and she was a competent leader, but the way she presented herself wasn't about her competency, and had she done that she could have won. But it wasn't, she didn't focus on staying strong, and paid the price for it

Nobody really made a huge fuss at all, at least not inside the Labour party, because they didn't want the question of a snap election to come up, because Labour, as it will be in a month's time, will be destroyed for another political cycle :(

And you are the reason why Hillary lost.
Check your logic.

That is her exact stance on the center of the country.

Yea, rural filth hate it when people point out what they are. Just because I look down on them and talk down to them doesn't mean I don't want them to have the same opportunities as everyone else.

Hillary just didn't motivate the wealthier people to get out and vote for her, that was her flaw in the end... I think it was almost a no-question that the rural voters would vote for Trump

You are an idiot.

I'm not saying she could not have won.

But where she failed was taking a job under Obama.

If she had laid low and used her power in the senate; which is where she was more effective; she could have avoided all if not most of the Benghazi scandal, the email server and sundry other things that were used against her.

I would have enjoyed seeing Biden debate Trump. Biden's sense of humor against Trump's retarded bullshit. That would almost be worthy of a pay per view program.

I am from one of those fly over states and I do not work in a rural area or have a rural job.

Population doesn't make you superior; it only makes you a mob.

The electoral college was put in place to prevent a mob from controlling the country.

Both parties have benefited from the electoral college.

Perhaps you should check yourself before you sound more like a racist than the leader of the KKK.

>before you sound more like a racist than the leader of the KKK.
I wasn't aware rural people were a race.

I think you're right, but at the same time, I do also think that she should have focused more on her stability and competency rather than sinking to attacking Trump.

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can I just thank you guys for actually having a real discussion with facts and all rather than being dickheads like they are on the rest of the site

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If you vote Republican, you're a fucking tool. The End.

I think one of the more hilariously ironic things is that the big liberal cities will do just fine under Trumps economic policies, it's the rural communities that make up his base that are going to get assfucked with no lube.

aaaand that's why he won't last more than 4 years

That's really the paradox, rural people vote against their interests, because their anti-socialist principles override the pragmatism of social security

Discrimination comes in many forms.

Rural america (as you refer to poor Americans) may not be a race but they are a people and they have an equal voice.

You can discriminate on race, religion, social standing, and hell even someone's hobbies and likes.

Racism has become a diluted term.

But if you want to whip out the Webster's definition on me, fine. Intelligent people understood my comment.

no

thanks x

>do think
Even if she wasn't a bitch she's so fucking corrupt it's laughable. Demo-crackheads fucked themselves when they rigged the DNC.

You forgot the part where she kept falling down, passing out, spazing out and not being able to walk any sort of distance.

>america's so fucked a corrupt politician can't even get elected anymore

I'll admit that I look down on rural people. I was born and raised in a rural town in an insignificant flyover state. Unlike most of the guys in my high school class I had greater aspirations than farming and applied myself to school so I was able to leave that place and go to a decent college. Most of the people in my graduating class hardly cared because they were depending on jobs in farming or manufacturing (this was back when manufacturing in rural America was more widespread). I never went back after high school but I've connected on facebook with extended family that still lives there and found out that place went straight to the shitter. I want rural people to have the opportunities to improve themselves, and to take advantage of those opportunities. But most of them just want things to go back to the way they were when you could support a family off a manual labor job. This mindset has to be corrected so these people will understand the only way to improve their communities is to improve themselves.

Shame she's still a burden to humanity though.

Is that really the best you could do?

Heyy actually some good discussion in this thread

I'm just surprised that Asian shitposter didn't find this thread.

You think too little of them.


I too grew up in a rural town.
Dated a farmer's daughter in High School.
Left at 17 and have never gone back.

Some people in that town are stuck because they love it there.

Others like me left to go onto bigger things.

I don't discount what they do.
They provide a service not many are willing to do.

And most have adopted 21st century technology to improve their production.

Requiring less people to do the same amount of work and increased production or product.

Yeah less people there but they are far from rural hicks.

>Yeah less people there but they are far from rural hicks.
I don't think we grew up in the same town.

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