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Haters will say its photoshop

that number hasn't peaked yet

fuck off bald faggot

So many lemmings. TELL ME WHAT TO LIKE MELON MAN

>1mil only after uploading thousands of videos
kinda sad really, he even resorted to shit memes and pandering to hip hop kids

yeah whenever I see someone succeeding after hard work, all I can think is "lol @ u for working hard"

When did that happen, he was on like 600k not that long ago and his average views per video haven't increased

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BEST TEETH IN THE FUCKING GAME

Okay hold on hold on. Let's first acknowledge that music is art, not science, and so it is impossible to 100% objectively examine music.

Can somebody please give me an articulate and well constructed argument against Anthony Fantano as a music critic?

Personally I think he's pretty good. He's consistent, he's fair, he's thoughtful. Of course he has his own personal taste, and it differs from yours and mine in many areas. But why all the hate?

PS IMO Criticism as a field of journalism is generally bullshit. Why do you need somebody else to tell you what's good and what's not? Spend the 5-10 minutes it would take to watch/read a review to experience the art for yourself.

TL;DR Why is Bananthony Mango so hated by Sup Forums?

I CONTROL WHAT YOU LIKE

his shit taste

He has better taste than 98% of posters on Sup Forums and most people feel to threatened by him to admit that.

I agree with you except for the assertion that he's consistent. He absolutely memes on releases from genres that he doesn't like and shows a clear preference for noisy punk-influenced material.

In this respect he's like every other music critic, so I don't especially hold it against him. But I don't think he's exactly consistent or consistently thoughtful in his reviews.

no. fantano's literally a Sup Forumstant anyway.

He cannot think critically about music, he knows no music theory, he cannot play an instrument (bass doesn't count) and overall his music taste is very narrow

>bass doesn't count

he thinks he has good taste but he's actually entry-level as fuck.

like for example, there are certain genres that he really, really shouldn't be reviewing, and he KNOWS it, but he's a dick. he refused to review elseq and I think at one point even said it's "not music" despite thousands of his fans BEGGING him to review it, and he just did a joke video where called it "IDM".

like that's how fucking clueless is, he calls elseq IDM, and somehow doesn't have time to review it but he has time to listen to 2+ hour Swans albums all the time.

like he tries to be this "jack of all trades" kind of reviewer but it would really be a lot better if he just stuck to the genres where he at least KINDA knows what he's talking about. every single time he reviews an electronic album, he fucking embarrasses himself but his fans eat it up because they don't know any better.

it is SO EASY to find good review sites for electronic music, that will turn you on to dozens of good albums every month, written by people who actually have a clue about the genre, but Fantano drones don't know that, it's like monkey see monkey do "it's not worth Fantano's time so it must not be worth mine right?"

to be fair, electronic fans are kinda' autistic about their microgenres

>HOW CAN YOU CALL THIS DRUM AND BASS WHEN IT IS CLEARLY FUTURE GARAGE

99% of electronic music is barely music so melon has a point

>bass doesn't count
I'd like to give you a "fuck you" from me and all other bassists

it's okay, i'd be worried if it was from actual musicians.

how is that autistic? there's a pretty obvious difference between DnB and future garage. is it any more autistic than getting worked up about the difference between post-punk and post-hardcore?

*airhorns*

>Look mom! I posted it again!

Pudgy Bald Liberal manlet reviews meme music

See this I think actually makes sense. What gives music critics the right to critique music? I mean ideally I want an articulate and charismatic music historian/multi instrumentalist reviewing music. Then I would REALLY listen.

The reason I give Fantano some credit is because it sounds to me like he knows what he's talking about when it comes to certain genres in that he has intelligent input. For everything? No. For some metal and a lot of hip hop, yes.

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>Fantano
>liberal

lel

>What gives music critics the right to critique music?

the fact that musicians are releasing it. don't wanna get critiqued, keep your music to yourself.

Fantano just has a channel where he gives his opinion, I don't see why anyone should get worked up over it

I mean, he loves him some Bernie Sanders and apparently wrote the Democrats A VERY STRONGLY-WORDED LETTER for being so inhospitable to him.

The reason I think he mostly reviews hip hop is because he can focus on the non-musical aspects like an analysis of the lyrics.

>manlet

Maybe I didn't communicate clearly enough.

Rather than what gives them the right I might ask about what legitimizes a music critic. Anybody has the right to critique anything, I agree. But a culinary chef has more authority to critique food than a McDonald's line cook, don't you agree?

not all electronic music is festival bro EDM nonsense you twit

You don't have to watch his electronic reviews. He can upload whatever he wants.

Also elseq is IDM.

He genuinely doesn't seem to have a wide scope of music. Looking at his rym, he has 1400 ratings right now. I don't think that reflects all he has heard but I still don't consider him to have enough depth to his taste to warrant any respect in that area. He reviews and gives high ratings to albums which sound commonplace, mediocre, oftentimes cliched, and so on. He is articulate and thoughtful but he approaches music as a typical pop consumer, looking more for entertainment than art imo. He just spits adjective all day long too. There's truly nothing unique about his style of reviewing or taste, other than he is more civil and respectable than most people here.

>Thinks I'm talking about festival bro EDM

I dislike fantano because he tries to give off the appearance of being cultured but sometimes when he reviews artists he knows nothing about their music ex. Him not knowing half of Pom Pom is old material Ariel Pink had released in the late 90's / early 00's and giving it an amazing review and proclaiming himself to be a huge fan of his

He also rarely factors in music theory

He's like the irate gamer of music

nothing is IDM. IDM is a fucking redundant label that most artists who get labelled it have rejected it themselves. it sounds pretentious as fuck and it doesn't actually have any clear definition. I've heard people say Autechre, Aphex Twin, Boards Of Canada etc. are all IDM but that's fucking retarded because those artists all sound distinctly completely different and you'd have to be deaf to not realize that.

it's kind of like how white critics invented the term "spiritual jazz" to describe certain kinds of jazz.

>implying he needs to factor in music theory to give his opinion on how much he likes something

>but that's fucking retarded because those artists all sound distinctly completely different

But he's not doing that. He's "reviewing" their music. You can't fall back on subjective opinion if you're a critic

This is why Scaruffi is a much better writer than Fantano or a literallywho rym narcissist who makes it about themselves.

I can dig it. So your trip is that he's a well spoken pleb with strong opinions? What's the difference between entertainment and art?

Also that bit about civility and respectability. I think there is something to that. This place is a cesspool precisely because it's full of people who do not know how to communicate their opinions in receivable way. Straight up.

not an argument

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Your opinion is wrong. No argument to be made.

/thread

Fantano has stated multiple times that his channel is just him giving his opinion. Kind of surprised he's gotten that popular by doing that, but whatever

Why do electro fags get so easily triggered about genres.

MDE never dies
Although it looks like it's going to shortly

His stupid punchable face turns out whenever I'm searching for music on YouTube; it annoys me a little bit more every time it happens

The man is completely shameless at gaming YouTube's search results

He promised me he would make a Meme Review of himself once he reached 1 million.

What are good sites to use for electronic music?

RA.

what I stated was not an opinion, it is fact. whether or not you like those artists is subjective, but they are all objectively significantly measurably different.

this

He's being a little bit duplicitous when he says that, though. I mean, the man sells t-shirts and slip mats. He's not just a guy sitting next to you telling you his personal opinion. He's a professional music critic who's worked very hard to promote himself.

>what I stated was not an opinion, it is fact

yeah, it was. posting a reddit meme image doesn't invalidate that.

Didn't ask

>food analogies
there is no objective authority in reviewing or critiquing. you only put some people's opinions above other's because you believe the former's opinions to be more well educated and of worth.

>qualifications don't exist

Bullshit, man. There are certain qualifiers, that if possessed, make you an objectively more reliable voice when critiquing things within your area of expertise. What's wrong with a food analogy? How about a different analogy then?

Say you have a brother who is a lawyer and a brother who is a plumber. Which brother are you going to call when your sink is backed up and you can't fix it? Fuck off mate.

>bass doesn't count

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I like Fantano's videos generally, but he definitely seems to miss tons of shit that people who are better educated in music would be able to point out. His videos have entertainment value, but a more insightful critic could teach me more about the music and things related to it.

but your comment sounds dangerously close to saying that an educated opinion has no advantages over an uneducated one
education is definitely an advantage, though it in itself doesn't necessarily make someone a good critic.

tl;dr: Fantano has his own thing he brings to the table, and better-educated people can offer different things

I think he kinda bullshits the line between "hey, just my opinion" and "I'm a legit critic" a bit too much, basically swapping whenever it's convenient. Also he seems to really half-ass some reviews.

Like Carrie and Lowell, where he basically said "everything sounds the same", which I mean, you could say that about a lot of fucking things.

you earned those quads with TRUTH

he's more of an entertainer than critic desu

Fantano, you getting pretty obvious here

By the way, you just admitted you're entertainer, a children's one at that