Which one is better? The fantasy and romanticize mafia or the real deal?

Which one is better? The fantasy and romanticize mafia or the real deal?

I personally prefer Goodfellas to The Godfather but both are excellent films

The problem with Godfather is that it tried making these Italian mobsters wise and noble thinkers who are rational and calm.

Goodfellas is more animated and in your face, which is more realistic for wiseguys.

Goodfellas obv

Godfather is cinema pretending to be cinemá whereas Goodfellas is cinema pretending to be a flick.

For that reason I find in favour of Goodfellas.

You're not making any sense, nigger.

Sorry, I don't speak pleb.

What's that you say about the Real Deal?

The godfather is art trying to be higher art

Goodfellas is art trying to be entertainment

Who's that hard to understand?

Goodfellas is infinitely better.

not that poster but this is why I prefer The Untouchables, which is entertainment pretending to be entertainment, which makes it art.

Godfather isnt romanticised tho, theres a ray liotta in the Godfather, Fredo, aka a weak character who doesnt want to face consequences and then theres michael killing his brother just for his own personal reasons (power thrist) even though he had many chances to jump out of it.

Both films potray the selfish nature of humans using gangster lifestyles but just in a different way

I prefer the Godfather as you can feel Puzo is using it to describe his feeling and thoughts whereas Goodfellas was made just because Scorsese has a passion for everything italian-american and whats to produce endless biopics of people that inspire him and who he feels related to, although saying that he knows how to show his passion

Put in terms i can understand please

A flick pretending to be a movie?

What other movie has Scorcese made that's self indulgently Italian? Sure he has his Italian bitch boy Leo in all his movies and De Niro in the other half. Casino's main character is a Jew and so is Wolf of Wall Street's Jordan Belfort.

Godfather really is a romanticized depictook of the mafia but a great one.

Goodfellas is essentially an associate's view of the mafia as Henry was never a made guy. In a sense he was the fish out of water character that the audience could connect with.

well all his films are about poor eastern yank miniorites making something of themselves. Most of his films have that inspirational theme of so and so doing what they have to do and not qutting. I just suspect that most of his main characters have qualities that he admires and hes goes out of his way to prove that these qualities are good by contrasting them with flaws of said character. So like Travis, psychopathic killer with controversial views but he still freed the young girl from cruel pimps.

There are films that are clearly artistic. They have strange plots that might be disjointed or confusing. They use filming styles that appeal to an artistic aesthetic. Directors like Fellini, Andy Wharhal, Harmony Korine, Alejandro Jodorowsky, Von Trier etc etc. They make films for themselves not a huge studio and they're not interested in your opinion (they really are). Then there's directors like David Cameron and Judd Apatow they make movies that do well in the box office but they have no substance and straight forward plots the larger theme is simple. Scorcese falls somewhere in the middle he's a good director but his movies aren't avant garde in any way. Watch a Terrence Mallick film his camera work is amazing it helps tell the story unlike other directors who use the camera to show a story.

>real deal

The whole movie is made up bullshit by lying gopher Henry Hill.

I agree with the first part but he goes out of his way to show the way some behaviors are destructive and therefore not desirable. Wolf of Wall Street was a portrayal of 90s excess and its pitfalls. Look at The Departed... tell me who is the winner in that film?

This.

The Soprano's is the closest we're gonna get to what its like to live that lifestyle. At the same time have it portrayed within the context of a certain time period/location in America. All the while doing its best to be a larger commentary on the mafia's role within a community/country. Most importantly it does all of this stuff accurately.

actually yeah thats true, raging bull is a perfect example of destructive behaviour but he always makes you sympathise with the main character, so he deffo admires his characters