How do I get into pic related...

How do I get into pic related? I've listened to and liked jazz before (like Charles Mingus) but this is a little difficult since each track is so long, it's kind of hard to follow

The thing about BB is that it's not very structured at all. It's basically free improvisation in a rock mindset and most rock fans (like Fantano) just like the groove of it.
It's a significant release because of its unique approach to Fusion

Hmm gotcha. Is there other Miles Davis that I should maybe hear first to put something like this in context?

I do like the groove of it from what I've heard so far though

My breakthrough with this record was realizing there's two separate drummers playing at the same time. At first I thought the groove was just a repetitive sguffle but I realize the detail which carried me through the record enough for it to click

Don't try to over think it or look for some deeper meaning. A lot of it is like most jazz where there is the main soloist and the rhythm section is grooving on the chord changes a lot of it is a back and forth between those two components and playing off each other, any of these songs could really go on forever with this amazing line up and amazing synergy.

Right on, I'll just chill with it for a while then and give it a few listens

Try Miles in the Sky

I'd recommend listening to: In A Silent Way. It's kind of similar to BB and you can see him leading up to this point it's also an incredible listen that you should check out anyways

Cool, thanks dudes I'll definitely check them out here next when I finish this. Planning on listening to Kind of Blue at some point tonight as well.

No problem, Kind of Blue is an amazing album as well, also has an incredible line up and can lead you into all sorts of places jazz wise. It has one of my favorite recordings of Paul Chambers and compared to BB it's much more traditional Jazz, has all of my favorite players for their instruments like, Jon Coltrane, Bill Evans and Paul Chambers who all have amazing discographies of their own too which I'd recommend checking out if you're planning to dive into Jazz

Kind of Blue is far from traditional jazz

Well besides So What being a modal tune, it's fairly basic be-bop, unless you're think of traditional Jazz like more Count Basie or Ellington kind of stuff like big band and swing

Just to get the record straight, Kind of Blue isnt traditional jazz or bebop; however, it is definitely reminiscent of the style of jazz that was the most commercially viable in the 60s. Good example is Charlie Brown Christmas

But anyways, I really think for Sup Forumstants, The Black Saint and the Sinner Lady is the best intro to jazz. The hardest part about jazz for outsiders is usually being able to listen for the interactions between musicians. Black Saint has incredible solos and interplay, but also has a distinctly progressive form which might be comfortable for Sup Forumstants since prog rock and concept albums are often discussed here

Heh yeah that was the first jazz record I ever listened to (Mingus), and I loved it, so I agree that's a good starting point for jazz.

Great album to get high to.

Herbie Hancock's fusion stuff explored a lot of the same ideas without being so dense and free-flowing, I'd give that a listen. Some of Davis' other fusion stuff is also easier to get into, check out some of his live material from the 1970s.

Yeah Sextant and Head Hunters are the shit, even though Sextant is borderline electronica

So what is so what, this may just me not being familiar with this type of Jazz and I assume traditional Jazz is more ragtime and dixieland and be-bop being more artists like Charlie Parker and Dizzy Gillespie but, is Kind of Blue just modal or what? just to make sure I correct myself properly

So what is kind of blue*

Yes it's modal jazz. Honestly Kind of Blue is hard to categorize because it has one foot in modal and the other foot in hard bop. The whole reason it's considered so influential is because it foreshadowed modal jazz, which in 1959 wasn't even a genre yet but merely a new way of playing that only the most forward thinking jazz players were exploring

But yeah modal lol

It's some of the hippest shit ever recorded, all the musicians were coming from a very different place (Miles was playing cool, Coltrane had just come up with his Coltrane changes, Adderley was dong a boogaloo kind of thing almost, Bill Evans was "white", and Cobb+Chambers were anchors) so I find the music to be pretty genre-less other than being the start of modal music.