I want to die

I want to die

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So then do it and stop bitching.

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While I agree that the new show was a shitfiesta science is all about revising theories as new information is obtained. If we didn't do that we'd still believe the Earth is the center of the solar system.

I want to die, I dont fucking do it.

Do life until its completely unbearable

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>OP has autism chromosomes
>denies gender bender chromosomes exist

>science is all about revising theories as new information is obtained

except this is not what is happening. bill nye is no scienctist. he's a pretend scientist with a mechanical engineering undergraduate degree.

What IS happening is actual science is being replaced by cultural and political science.

He's ALWAYS been a TV personality, how is anyone surprised he's not reciting peer reviewed studies verbatim?

If you have some science to prove him wrong then please show it.

He NEVER said the thing on the left. It's from a fucking subreddit

came here to say this. it blows my mind that text + picture = fact these days.

three active bill nye threads on just the first few pages of Sup Forums

how triggered can you people be?

Right? It's fucking hilarious.

Antiscience cock gobblers.

Doesn't make it any less true. Gender dysphoria (gender identity disorder) is a mental illness in your brain.

source: actual science

apps.who.int/classifications/icd10/browse/2016/en#/F64.9

jsm.jsexmed.org/article/S1743-6095(15)33906-0/fulltext

Look I'm not here to debate the issue. I'm just fucking sick of seeing this image shared like it means fucking anything.

>Look I'm not here to debate the issue
>If you have some science to prove him wrong then please show it.

now that you've been proven wrong you're not here to debate, right.

>the first few pages of Sup Forums
>this newfag hasnt discovered the catalog yet
Wew

>2016/en#/F64.9
>This block includes a variety of conditions and behaviour patterns of clinical significance which tend to be persistent and appear to be the expression of the individual's characteristic lifestyle and mode of relating to himself or herself and others. Some of these conditions and patterns of behaviour emerge early in the course of individual development, as a result of both constitutional factors and social experience, while others are acquired later in life. Specific personality disorders (F60.-), mixed and other personality disorders (F61.-), and enduring personality changes (F62.-) are deeply ingrained and enduring behaviour patterns, manifesting as inflexible responses to a broad range of personal and social situations. They represent extreme or significant deviations from the way in which the average individual in a given culture perceives, thinks, feels and, particularly, relates to others. Such behaviour patterns tend to be stable and to encompass multiple domains of behaviour and psychological functioning. They are frequently, but not always, associated with various degrees of subjective distress and problems of social performance.

I don't see mental illness in there.

>S1743-6095(15)33906-0/fulltext
>The etiology of gender identity disorder (GID) remains largely unknown.

Or there.

>newfag

i've been here since last summer faggot. i'm an oldfag now. /\ /\ /\ triforce

Lol, dumbshit, different person.

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>The American Psychiatric Association, publisher of the DSM-5, states that "gender nonconformity is not in itself a mental disorder.

american psychiatric association != world health organization

Exactly, thank you.
The problem isn't that the girl feels like she is a boy, the problem is that she has depression and self-hate because her body does not fit what she feels it ought be. You treat the depression and self-hate, sometimes by taking steps to help the transition to something that feels more natural.

All listed disorders are only "disorders" when that thing is causing a problem in your life/safety.

W.H.O. listed it as a "Disorder of adult personality and behaviour" but you ignored that.

This jackass has fallen so far...

It's a fucking disorder it's NOT NORMAL how many times do you degenerates have to be told this.

Good.

A science guy updating his ideas to be in line with new research.

Or what you Amerifags call "flip-flopping".

Spelled wrong. Your case is sagging.

newfag

But wasn't it a mental illness just moments ago? Now it's only a disorder?

A broken arm is NOT NORMAL, are you going to go protest broken arms?

read
disorder and illness are the same thing.

They're comparing mental and physical illnesses or disorders.

Reading comprehension one oh one bby

Science is a bitch. It fucking sucks. Every now and then some really useful and interesting shit comes from it, but the majority of "science" is useless bullshit that will get lost in the mountains of other useless papers. Maybe you'll get a citation or two from someone making some other useless bullshit that relates to your useless bullshit.

Too many people regard "science" and "scientists" the same way religious folks regard gods and priests.

Learn to look at the evidence/facts and think for your self folks. Learn to read journal articles your self and evaluate/review what they say your self to form your own thoughts. Not what some TV personality or internet writer tells you.

That being said ... I still love me some bill nye. Wouldn't be where I am probably if it wasn't for watching his show when I was a kid.

You don't help people with schizophrenia by enabling their discord with reality. Don't see why people think you should do a complete 180 when it comes with gender identity disorder's discord with reality.

sure are a lotta whiney faggots itt.

let's see, on the left in op's pic is him explaining physical gender. neat. on the right, he's explaining mental state of identifying one's gender (not how you're either born a man or woman, rather how you feel). neat.

yet hardly anyone can get it. just see bill nye and go apeshit. fucking epic around here lately in regards to raging autism.

You're comparing apples with oranges user. Schizophrenia can make you suffer from delusions that cause you to physically harm yourself, and those around you. Gender dysphoria does not do that.

Are you trying to claim that mutilating your body is not physically harming yourself? We don't even have to talk about the ones done by doctors to "help" them, some of them harm themselves because they think their body is wrong and disgusting. Then there's the suicide, among many other things.

It's almost like you don't know anything and are talking out of your ass.

The same poor souls that you're concern trolling will be supporting your right to legal assisted suicide, if you ever get the balls to do it.

The easiest cure for that is to just let them live out their "delusion". With schizophrenia you can get voices urging you to kill yourself and those around you, as an extreme example. People suffering from gender dysphoria don't.

>Smack a bitch with logic
>Waahh trolling, go an hero
Sounds about right. Going to go to sleep after another stunning example of me being right and some other random idiot being wrong.

>I want to die
Don't fret.
You will.
Eventually.

>get's BTFO
>b-b-b-but you didn't answer my retarded question!!
>i-i'm leaving g-g-uys you're no f-f-f-fun any more.
>i'm secretly sticking around to see what you reply with.


ANyway, faggot, I'm not the guy you were flirting with, so check yourself before you wreck... oh you already did.


SAGE

Actually, that is the problem. She feels like a boy even though she is not. That is denial of perceived reality. Would you be considered insane if you suddenly decided that your left leg shouldn't be there, because you feel like a one-legged guy?

Joke's on you. You're already dead. Welcome to Hell. Every time you die in Hell, it gets worse, you descend a level and live there. Isn't Hell great.

No, what if my left leg is an asshole? With if I just don't like the way it looks?

I mean, people stab needles into and through every part of their body for purely aesthetic reason, why not let someone chop their dick off?

Just like sexual preference based on age is also on a spectrum. It's only natural for a certain small percentage of the population to be attracted to 8 year olds and it happens in nature across nearly all species as well.

If they want to chop off body parts on their own dime, I have no problem with it.

But if someone feels as if their leg shouldn't be there because, as I said, he actually feels like a one-legged guy, then that someone is fucking crazy. That doesn't mean that he shouldn't be able to amputate his leg if he himself pays for it. But as I said, it does mean that he is insane.

Also, this is different from doing it for aesthetic reasons.

>mfw OP really started the conversation to justify his pedophilea

>on their own dime
Are you being put out paying for all these sex changes?

What if someone wanted to chop their dick off for pure aesthetic reasons?

>Would you be considered insane if you suddenly decided that your left leg shouldn't be there, because you feel like a one-legged guy?
I remember reading an article about a guy that actually chopped off his leg because of this. Interesting shit.

There are people here right now that unironically believe Gender is a spectrum.

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Me, for example. Are you maybe thinking of sex?

>There are people here right now that unironically believe policing an anime image board with their puritanical view on other's personal choices isn't just a meme.

I live in Sweden, so yes, I pay for the madness through taxes.

>Gender
>Choice
Choose one

>implying that behaviours are categorically healthy or unhealthy, and that prescriptive social norms (i.e. whether we should accept this behaviour) should be based on these arbitrary categories
>implying that gender dysphoria answers everything relating to the debate about gender
>implying that critical analysis is not a fundamental aspect of the scientific method, and that there is not a buttload of debate around this topic at the moment

>implying that the lifetime prevalence rates of mental disorders for Americans were not around 50% in 2004 (according the CDC)
>implying that the fact that gender identity issues can be described as a mental disorder means that it either shouldn't be taken seriously, or that it is objectively bad

i dunno if you were actually thinking any of this, but presenting two studies to summarise an active area of research seems a bit silly. I've seen research that suggests that there are biological bases for gender dysphoria, so you could argue that it is totally natural, even though it is currently described as a mental disorder.

You can't afford your pornhub subscription and that third serving of chikun nuggies because of all the sex changes you're paying for?

I just chose to change my gender to female and back to male.

Prove me wrong.

did you just delete make another thread with this same topic elaborating on how you wanted earlier?

Or are there really so many people who care about a no budget no one cares netflix "show" to kill themselves over it

Curious if schizophrenia is "natural"

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Saying something doesn't make it true

Maybe you should blame the doctors and the scientific community that prescribe the operations.

I don't need to, your genetic makeup didn't alter in the slightest.

Prove it's not true.

I know genetic and gender both start with gen, so you'll easily be confused about this, but gender isn't based on genetics.

Prove it is or else it's just an argument from ignorance

1) yes, because everything is natural
There is no 2 because humans aren't being born with man made schizophrenia.

Prove god is real.

or Fuck off.

That is your claim

are you for fucking real?

I can't, that's my point. Saying "prove he's not" would be an argument from ignorance

What proof would satisfy your arbitrary metric for what I am capable of identifying as?

Gender and sex are not the same thing user

never have been

Did you take spanish in school?

You know how you can make all those words masculine or feminine and it doesnt mean the subject has a dick?

Thats gender

Sex means you have a dick

Two different words -- always has been

take some niggers and jews with you

Oh shit, we have an antiscience here.

You act like scientist's can't change their mind. Picture how it was when Einstein's theory of general relativity was proven? Totally flipped shit for ever one.

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You can say whatever you want yourself to be but it doesn't mean you are that thing. I can say I'm a cow, but I'm not a cow.

Define real.

So he can change his mind of his gender, and you don't believe him, but you want proof?
I just thought of killing my farther. How can I prove this?
I like listening to Stone Roses, no changed my mind, Lady Gaga, you can not prove anything that comes from within a person. It's just a beliefe. I'm not saying you are right, or wrong.

What I'm kinda saying is, people should just shut the fuck up about gender, if you personaly have a problem don't fucking shout about it, go get help. Go do what you want to do, I dont give a fuck, 90% of the population wont give a fuck. If you shout the 10% will pick up on it, then the news will, then you are just creating attention because you're a cunt.

>I'm a cow

teets or GTFO

youtu.be/Wllc5gSc-N8
Why you no post the video op. This shit is so fucking fucked up it would make most people's want to a hero

there is barely anything in common with gender identity and sexual attraction to young children

These days, nonconformity to gender norms is largely to to conservatism, moral outrage, etc. -- who actually cares if someone wants to behave differently to what is expected of someone with their specific genitalia?

However, pedophilia is taboo because it involves the exploitation of the vulnerable -- children of that age cannot fully (emphasis on FULLY, people have trouble with this) understand the implications of a sexual relationship, so cannot give fully informed consent. Underage sex is therefore legally, ethically, and morally wrong (versus the solely moral objections to gender nonconformity).

I meant your thought deceleration on the subject that this thread was on about, not your physical body.
You pedantic fuck.

He had a master plan...

..and checked!

>gender is made up
>but you're not allowed to make up your own
>or apply our made up gender to yourself "incorrectly"

They should get help not seek attention. The attention seekers should be shot

Found the fake swede

How many sex changes in sweden a year fake swede? how much does the goverment pay for them?

I never said gender is made up
Second two points correct

It's not the first time he's changed his mind to reflect reality. He changed his stance on GMOs after learning more about them.

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>It's just a beliefe[sic]. I'm not saying you are right, or wrong.

>What I'm kinda saying is, people should just shut the fuck up about gender

Exactly! My gender has absolutely no effect on your life, so shut the fuck up about my gender.

Kinda what I said, and yes I agree.

But I was not saying help in a way of "you are wrong, you are a man" I do believe that they feel strongly that they could be a women trapped in a mans body, the brain wiring is/can be fucked up. This is what I meant by help.
Not a pray the gay away camp or shit like that.

REEEEEEEEEEEE
WTF is wrong with people?

The vast amount of trannys just want to live their lives... you are conflating 40 gender tumblrinas & the people use see being amplified on breitbart & similar sites

Then your question is disingenuous.