Hey Sup Forums, I've got a question about rape: a friend of mine went on a Tinder date with a girl about 5 weeks ago and after having one beer at a bar they wen to her place and had sex.
Today he got a text from her saying that she wanted to talk (first contact after their date). A couple of hours later they talked over the phone and she accused him of raping her. She claimed that she never consented to them having sex and that she originally said that she didn't wanna have sex. If she goes ahead and reports him to the police what's most likely gonna happen?
Your friend is likely going to get fucked by the law. With no proof on his side saying he didn't, they will believe her without hesitation.
Welcome to 2017.
Tyler Cook
tell your friend to go to the police and say she raped him, safest solution imo
Aaron Richardson
I don't believe so. I met him the day after their dates and he just said she wasn't very good looking, that's it.
He goes out with a ton of women.
I mean even if it's after a month they had sex and there's no shred of evidence that he did anything?
Charles Evans
Dip shit im sure she recorded todays convo with (him/you) and now will extort you for all your stupidity. Next time keep your dumbass mouth shut
Camden Jackson
Likely nothing will happen. Tell your friend to get a lawyer and to not say shit, this'll all blow over
Michael Mitchell
Since it was 5 weeks ago, the physical evidence would be long gone. Eye witness testemony would also be sketchy at best. It's hearsay by that point.
If she went to the police a few hours later, or even a day, and had a rape kit done on her and blood tested for alcohol content then your buddy would be fucked.
Only way she can prove he raped her is if she recorded it.
Leo Carter
Sounds like she has is having a post sex regret episode (usually happens with girls who cheat, a chad above their league fucks them, or just plain batshit crazy)
The best way to handle these types is to ghost her into the next century. You are being idiots giving crazy girls ammo to hang you guys by the balls.
Brandon Cruz
Nothing, he said, she said, unless she hasn't bathed in 5 weeks and can still fill a rape kit, and even then it won't...uh...wash.
Did he leave any other evidence, did he take pictures and post them on the net?
DID he actually rape her, and she has pictures?
Otherwise, no, nothing. She may be able to make a charge but he can sue. Contrary to a popular misconception the "new" rape laws only mean that a woman is not required to prove the rape happened even to bring it to a trial, they don't change the basic rules of evidence.
Dylan Kelly
That's what he guessed, and he never confessed to anything. He insisted she was mistaken through the whole conversation.
That's what I suggested.
I'm guessing she didn't go to the police, otherwise they would have spoken with him already. And as far as I know she didn't record it.
Her point with the phone call was that she needed closure, and that she wanted him to admit that he had raped him. I'm guessing that she knows she can't prove he raped her so was trying to make him say something.
Josiah Baker
Even if he isn't found guilty the social stigma is going to vilify him. So your friend is fucked either way.
Jose Ross
no pictures I wasn't there, but I'm pretty inclined to believe he didn't rape her. BUT I wouldn't be surprised if they were kissing and she said she didn't wanna have sex, they kept kissing, and eventually they had sex.
Ian Young
>JUST SAY YOU FELL AND SLIPPED INSIDE HER
It's a plausible drunken defense
Henry James
Ohh. I wonder if there was a rape kit? She probably got a rape kit done.
You have no clue what evidence there is. Her place? Cameras around her house?
Hmmmm
Cameron Cook
Almost impossible to get a rape conviction, even with forensic evidence. Your friend is fine.
Tyler Baker
>I'm guessing that she knows she can't prove he raped her so was trying to make him say something.
Yup, he just has to deny it, once, maybe twice then cut off contact with her. Save the messages but delete and block her number. If this gets to higher authorities, he just has to get a lawyer and keep his mouth shut. DON'T even set FOOT into the police station.
While agreeing with those saying nothing will happen I would still retain counsel, just to be safe.
Mason Morgan
I believe he is talking to a lawyer tomorrow. Why the don't even set foot into the police station? Can he refuse?
Aaron Collins
It happens :)
Nathan Harris
>I mean even if it's after a month they had sex and there's no shred of evidence that he did anything?
even if its years
before a few years ago, yeah more evidence than her word would be needed, but now? sjws and their 'believe the victim' nonsense have convinced everyone that if a girl cries rape, even years after the event, with absolutely no other evidence, the burden of proof has shifted to the man to prove his innocence, and the burden is so high it makes 'beyond a reasonable doubt' look tame.
Landon Jenkins
he can refuse as long as its not an official subpoena signed by a judge, and if that is the case, or they forcibly bring them in, he can have a lawyer present (in the US, you have to affirmatively assert this right in order to have it; you cant just say nothing or say bullshit, you have to specfically say you want an attorney; more bullshit civil rights erosion from the SC)
Hunter Cook
Yes of course you can, this is America.
If police come to his door, have him do this. Tell the officers (while being polite and courteous) that he has already addressed his accuser's allegations of rape, that he did not do it. If they have any further questions, please speak to my lawyer. Say thank you, then close the door.
Carson Turner
That's what worries me, but I hope it will just go away.
I hope it doesn't come to that, but if it does, I'm sure he'll ask to have his lawyer present.
William Murphy
>Tell the officers (while being polite and courteous) that he has already addressed his accuser's allegations of rape, that he did not do it.
No, don't even say that much. This is a serious issue and you don't say shit without a lawyer.
If the police show up at the door, step outside and close it behind you. Do not let them in, once they're in they can search, even if it's "just to talk for a second" and even if you tell them they can't come in more than a few steps; once they're in they're in. Inform them that you respect the job they have to do, SINCERELY- don't be sarcastic, but due to the seriousness of allegations made against you, you can't comment without your attorney present. You can tell them your name, but the second they ask anything else, no, you want a lawyer. Ask if you are being detained or are free to go. If you're being detained, just repeat that you want your lawyer. They might try to inconvenience you and scare you by dragging you to the station, still, don't answer anything other than your name with anything other than 'i want my lawyer'. They may threaten to arrest, but don't give in, rape is too serious.
Tyler Anderson
Fuck. The situation is fucking scary. Even with just her word for it.
Eli Roberts
yup, but still with that kind of power, and complete control over sex, women are being oppressed by male privilege right?
Colton Hernandez
he should lawyer up
Jaxson Flores
Admit it, this "friend" is you ain't it?
Stop with that tinder shit. You'll have mire fun, and more sex, in a real relationship.
Chase Powell
No, it's not me. I wouldn't have an issue saying it's me on an anonymous board if it were true. The only reason why I clarified it was a friend was in case someone asked something to which I didn't know the answer.
Dominic Edwards
>You'll have mire fun, and more sex, in a real relationship. This is patently false.
Jace Price
Tell him to remember that he can sue as well. Record EVERYTHING you can, and in as much detail as possible. Oh, and it should go without saying that he must have NOTHING more to do with her. Even if she calls and says she has a way to end all this tell her to talk to the attorney.
Carson Cruz
how so?
Lincoln Richardson
suing her later sounds risky. I think trying to make this as little public as possible is the best.
Jaxon Taylor
OP, when I was 18 I had drunk sex with a 21 year old a few times. Out of the blue she decided the most recent one was rape. Although she was drunk I remember her being on top.
A detective showed up at my work, and questioned me about a party I went to a few days prior. I live in an upper-middle class town, so he was a good detective.
I had pictures of her begging for my dick on my phone, and allowed the detective to take pictures of it.
Turns out that the chick had a boyfriend, and he found out that she had slutted on my cock. She thought her only way around it was to cry rape. It didn't make much sense.
The detective said I will always have the case filed referencing my name. Even though it's not public information.
To this day I regret not taking her to court immediately afterward.
Robert Green
Forgot to add: I didn't have a lawyer, and charges were never brought against me. Your friend's situation may differ from this.
Gavin Smith
What if you have no lawyer or money for a lawyer?
I like how people just spout, get a lawyer!
Like everyone has thousands of dollars to throw down the drain on a whim.
Brayden Price
Dont listen to these fags OP, get him to ditch the whore and just in case get some contacts who would willingly be character consultants (Friends, family,etc. Anyone who can testify to the kind of person he is)
Josiah Russell
Until charges are brought against you, then a lawyer is an overkill knee jerk reaction.
Although I wish I had a lawyer in the case that was brought against me, I didn't need one. I'm also glad I didn't waste the money on one.
