Daily Reminder Marxism, Communism and Socialism as well as it's retarded cousin "democratic socialism" doesn't work, has never worked and there is no potential future where it will ever work.
Daily Reminder Marxism, Communism and Socialism as well as it's retarded cousin "democratic socialism" doesn't work...
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seems to be working in china
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there seems to be a rise in these degenerative belief system systems of late
capitalism is the ultimate degeneration fam
Not defending communism.
However, all political systems are crafted in blood. Don´t make the mistake to think otherwise.
you're a dumb unemployed faggot fuck off with your fam you fuckin queer
Exactly, leftists are simply retarded youtu.be
This is the truth that people cannot seem to get their heads around
It's one thing to revolt against tyranny and establish a new, freer order. It's another to deliberately massacre people by the millions so you can never lose power.
The latter is communism. See Holodomor, Killing Fields, Great Leap Forward, Cultural Revolution, etc.
China is fucking killing it? Japan seems ok. Most of Europe seems fine. Why the hatred for shit you don't understand?
wew lad
thats right.
most succesful country in the world the past decades.
Kill yourself Jontron. You are not even white
I deal with faggot uni students studying the arts working at mcdonalds everyday. They have no grasp of the real world
Yeah bro try to keep up the capitalist free market shit when the robots are doing all the jobs
working to get through college.... jup not understanding the world
What would you know about school. You seem like you think you know it all already.
Democratic socialism has worked fine in Denmark until recently big business began dismantling it.
Not that you'd know, as you're a yank tard and have no clue what goes on in the rest of the world.
Fox News aren't actually news, you know.
This.
Also, not everyone uses the same terms. Or if they do, they don't mean the same thing.
"Left" in the UK usually means "for the working man".
"Left" in the USA usually means "Muh genders, muh vagina, muh feelings, muh smash shit and throw a fit when I don't get muh way"
>I deal with faggot uni students studying the arts working at mcdonalds everyday.
stop eating so much mcdonalds you fat fuck!
>democratic socialism" doesn't work
then shut the fuck up about our export surplus already fucking burger
>"Left" in the UK usually means "for the working man".
good goi
Trust me capitalism and democracy have plenty of blood on their hands as well. In the third world there were many pro capitalism/pro democracy secret police and death squads. In the first world, they are just as effective suppressing votes without violence. All political/economic systems have downsides. And in all systems, if you aren't part of the ruling class you lose in all of them.
The Chinese are very shallow and a good chink is one in ten thousand.
They have very little to their culture that is redeemable, from the shit traditional medicine to the lack of privacy, to respecting or disrespecting others based on social class, to the socially acceptable crimes (as long as you don't make a scene),Ive seen one old lady bash a stray cat in the skull with a rock, which didnt kill it. As it was squaling and seizuring on the ground she cut its guts out then began to skin it. And eat it raw. She threw the unwanted parts on the ground where he children were playing (naked may i add) and they began to play with its organs and shit.
>"democratic socialism
then why is germany shitting on you in exports?
shouldnt we have collapsed already?
capitalism (aka feudalism with a twist) is that thing that doesn't build roads, fuck off simpleton
Reminder without any form of socialism a country would not have: A army,roads or any other infrastructure OP go back to school!
what has that to do with being succesful?
>implying privatized roads are bad
This post violates the NAP delete it or I will use my McNuke™ on you
I said "usually" you inbred cunt.
I'd fully support the left if they ignored all this "It's our job to help immigrants and other countries" bullshit. Each country should put themselves first.
>Millions of people in prison or executed for political views
>Millions of people persecuted, jailed, and executed for the crime of being religious
>Millions of people imprisoned or executed for being the wrong ethnic group/race
>Millions of people imprisoned or executed for asking for more freedom
You
>"well, at least they manipulate their currency and have limited, state-run market capitalism so they can fake rapid GDP growth - they're all right!"
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you are usually a faggot, why even mention the times you are not?
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Still less than 0.1% as many in prison as in the USA... Yeah capitalism!
>>Can't come up with any counter points
>>better call him a faggot
I'm not even left wing. How stupid are you, exactly?
youre going to make heads implode careful
Not that poster, but when the government doesn't set environmental protection and labor laws, or is highly corrupt it's easy to quickly be successful. The Chinese place very little value on life and large portions of the population are considered expendable/exploitable.
keep lending money, until you have to sell your states.
the only thing that can help is world war 3.
that was my counterpoint only you didnt seem to grasp it, oh well
>I'm not even left wing.
nobody suggested that you were or asked you about it, are you so narcissistic?
Democratic socialism has had some real results in the past here in the USA
here is a clock illustrating how well capitalism works
>Still less than 0.1% as many in prison as in the USA.
Fucking liar.
1) China DOESN'T COUNT the 1-3 million people in 'detention camps' as 'prisoners' because they are "counter-revolutionaries"
2) *Without* the millions of people in detention camps China's official number of prisoners is still 80% of the US number
3) If you *do* count the average of estimates for detention camps China has 170% of the American prison population
4) America does not imprison people for writing blogs, asking for free elections, saying the air is polluted, going to church, etc.
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This is true, but the Sup Forumstards will continue to pretend that Socialism is Communism because that's what Breitbart says. Sup Forums is full of morons.
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>laughs at capitalism
>shows US debt
>doesn't realise who has the most advanced army in the world
I think they are doing alright for themselves for piling on so much debt. Look at other countries who still today have communism, pure fail.
I think the problem is less that democratic socialism doesn't work and more that it works in a way that people don't like and they confuse the two.
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well sure, but op stated that "communism doesnt work" he did not specify in what way, or in what parameters, so user argued that it does work, on the bases of economical gain, then other user just starts rattling of
>I deal with faggot uni students studying the arts working at mcdonalds everyday
I know somebody like you. He's a fat fuck with a dead end factory job.
americans just don't want their taxmoney to be used for them it seems. they rather have it go to banks and companies. but it's the words like socialism ppl are going crazy about.
a system, in which the politics have to focus on the wellbeing of their people is a good thing. it includes consumer safety, prohibiting companies f.e to pollute the drinkingwater or sell you poisoned food. it includes personal freedom and supporiting it by making it easier for people to start own busineses. the state should interfere as little with the daily lifes as possible, but should make sure a balance is being kept, so we don't fall back into feudalism. i don't care how you wanna label this system, it doesn't matter. the it functions is what matters. I gladly pay taxes if I know it's being used to provide me with things I need, like streets, schools or affordable healthcare. AFFORDABLE not free.
there is no such thing as free. everything costs something. I'm glad I got that. last month I had an excident at work and thanks to my insurence I was able to get proper treatment without having to pay extra for it. Let's just be realistic about what we all need at some point in our life and stop fighting bout words like socialism, libertarism or whateverism.
>yank tard
I'm American and I consider myself a socialist, but please do continue to make generalizations about my country, you stupid fuck.
>our economics is built on an unsustainable growing debt but we haz big guns, yay
>"Left" in the UK usually means "for the working man".
Yeah, because propping up the dying coal industry is really great for the working man. /s
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>most succesful country in the world the past decades.
If successful means they"provide" high GDP while totally disregarding the well-being and welfare of their population, then yes.
Why do you think there are so much "made in China" products and why are they so cheap? Not because the materials or the manufacturing technic. It's because people's labour/workforce is cheap. They are basically the slaves of the world.
I want regulations for big corporations, banks and everything but that image is stupid.
Nowadays we're not talking about food, water or shelter.
I'm fine with the owner of a company having big benefits it's their ideas, their money and their risk. No need to say that I'm against bailouts of course.
The only exception is when natural resources are the source of the benefit, that should be state owned like water, oil, mines, etc.
Why are you Europeans so filled with childish hatred? Have you not considered that maybe not all Americans are idiot Republicans? Also, with the shit state the UK is in, I wouldn't be acting so high and mighty you fucking limey.
yeah, like all those rich farmers stalin had executed ´, fuck the farmers! i rather have uneducated peasants on my fields
>dude, communism killed milions of people
>yeah but look at how much money these guys don't have!
I'm from slavistan and i'd rather be poor than dead
Roads, bridges, traffic lights
Water systems/man-made lakes
Sewage systems
Police/fire departments
Public libraries
Military/border patrol
Food safety/environmental protections
Worker protections. 40 hour weeks. (Google "shirtwaist")
Yes socialism and democratic socialism are horrible things.
But fret not; you can always move to the right-wing/libertarian utopias of India in sub-Saharan Africa if you don't like how horrible America is becoming.
at least he didn't build the country using slaves
#capitalism
Sup Forums doesn't understand this. Their parents buy everything for them. They just hang in their basements and jerk it to Trump. And capitalism prefers them this way, too fat and stupid to wake up and overthrow it.
so you sayin socialism invented roads?
>Military/border patrol
Hillary Clinton, NO we don't need more "defense" spending
Are you personifying socialism?
kek, yes he did.
>at least he didn't build the country using slaves
>at least
how is starving millions and brutalizing hundreds of thousends better then using slaves?
Communism wasnt even been tried.
OP and his idiot Tea Party buddies on Sup Forums don't want to learn anything. They just want to shit on anyone that isn't as miserable as they are.
do you smell your own farts user? sounds like you do
US has way more niggers to deal with. Take out the nigger population from that graph
No, i'm asking you if only socialist countries have roads.
You dumb fuck - you're trying to swotch between totals and as a percentage of the population!
Add in that China has been confirmed by several human rights groups to be lying (downward) about their prisoner count.
>"well, at least they manipulate their currency and have limited, state-run market capitalism so they can fake rapid GDP growth - they're all right!"
Still success by the metrics of capitalism! Let's start some "upward mobility", implement "trickle down economy" and rely on "corporate responsibility" to support the masses.
Are you arguing?
It was intended to be introduced in developed countries. Britain, Germany, Japan, the US. But it took off in the most backward countries. It helped take Russia from a place which still had feudalism, where people were serfs, to a world superpower in less than a century.
As a Distributist, I have bad news for you
Communism/Socialism and Capitalism are both fucked because they are the two sides of the same coin of a false dichotomy
>capitalism requires cheapest labor force possible
>prisoners forced to work for free
>highest prison population in the world
Do I have to break out the potato stamps and acrylic paints or can you form a coherent chain of thought all by yourself?
I'm not from the US, so no.. I don't think that way. Also you clearly know nothing about which you talk of because that argument is pathetic.
capitalism gives you prisons and endless resources for war
socialism gets you roads, bridges, and firefighters
> you dumb fuck
> swatch
>Forgets the Republicans do the same shit
10 times our population and still way less incarcerated kek
> im on Sup Forums i know how the world works
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Only if they work to provide themselves these things...otherwise, they do NOT deserve them.
They're only communists in name since "Mao did nuthing wong"
You think the billions of products with "made on china" on them indicating China's huge exports isn't a global market AKA capitalism?
go to Sup Forums fag op
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But you're just admitting that Communism sucks SO HARD the Chinese had to switch to Capitalism, right?
Right!
Because that is what happened - no matter how much Commie whinge about Capitalism the *only way* Communist nations can feed their citizens it to abandon Communist practices for Capitalist ones.
You are very much in the position of complaining that this other guy is a retard while accidentally proving he's smarter than you are.
>implying the alt-right supports capitalism
Wrong again, retard.
-barely 4 times the population
-you're forgetting the 2 million political prisoners the Chinese don't count
>our population
I'm not an American, burgerlord
>as well as it's retarded cousin "democratic socialism" doesn't work
Which is why democratic socialist countries like Norway, Denmark, Iceland, Finland and Sweden are ranked at the top of the global charts for freedom of press, quality of life, education, etc?
In fact, they rank higher than the United States.
So, who's "retarded".