Post-Soviet Eastern bloc countries:
How has your country been since you were 'liberated'?
A lot of my East European friends say their parents and older family memories miss it, mainly because "everyone had jobs".
What's the deal, I thought it was supposed to be shit?
>parents and older family memories miss it,
Old people always miss the land of their youth and idolize the times, because they were young.
We exchanged old problems for new ones.
According to polls most people think its better now.
It was shit
Most Russians are scum and unable to live like civilized beings - my father's opinion after serving 5 years in GDR.
It was shit, but sometimes what comes after is also shit and then you look at the previous shit with nostalgia.
It's not like communism has gone anywhere. It just took a different form.
we were not a part of the eastern bloc.
>eastern bloc
>albania and yugoslavia
mabey for 5-10 years after WW2 after that we were doing our own thing
Liberation meant state capture by foreign companies, NGOs, hostile takeovers of companies and in the case of Poland a tremendous increase in unemployment. The economic transformation in the case of Poland has been influenced, or maybe even written, by IMF, World Bank and foreign advisors
But I doubt there's a lot of people who miss commie times
Of course it's better
Those fuckers couldn't listen to western music without going to jail, they didn't have passports (forcefully kept in), couldn't wear western clothes etc.
Now the lifestyle is the same pretty much, partying, going out, working, wanking it. There's nicer things like malls and a ton of (cheap) flights to other euro cities. I've lived in your western european cunts and the only difference is the grass is cut evenly there.
t. eastern european
My grandma and grandpa got 2-room flat in commieblock in 5 years after requesting it.
If I was a normal russian I'd have to take a loan and pay it for 25 years, no vacation, no extra kids, no nothing. Lose the job because of economics, miss few payments, goodby my house.
I think they had it better that way.
some things were better. ie no immigrants, no poisonous western food, general safety (even gipsies behaved), most people had jobs.
but generally, it was terrible, people lived in fear, communists were retarded and ruined everything. only jobs were those in government and industry.
>their parents and older family memories miss it
only communist bastards miss it. we still have 20% communists in the country, mostly old as shit casket case people
We were bought up by foreign, hostile interests. Between the multinational corporations, the EU and NATO, they control us like they are our dictators. Nothing has changed, except that Moscow permitted us to have some semblance of sovereignty. Now we have to bend over and take the globalist dick until we bleed to death from anus rupture.
Now that all those ex-satellites and ex-states are under the influence of the West, it's uncertain. Presence of non-europeans is the main problem which the West brought to them. Being under both is equally bad.
Changes in our lands for past 100+ years:
As part of Austria-Hungary: we wish that we have more sovereignty like Magyars :/ but still kinda fine
After collapse of Austria-Hungary: oh awesome, we are independent with huge industry left after the empire. Most prosperous time.
Hitlah comes to powa: oh crap, we did have agreement with Britain, France etc to help us defend our shit should germs invade us but they said fokoff :/ not cool anymore
WW2 end - we got "liberated" or more likely being "under new management" by soviets: huge mismanagement, economically going to shit, bad times... although we are learning to milk the few benefits that comes with it.
1989: no more commies, yay! too bad that state's industries is now for grabs and it is for large portion of course grabbed by thieves and incompetent assholes which are now our government. Slowly we get things going well, maybe without all those fuckups average citizen would be somewhere in the levels of average germ's, currently we are in like 1/3rd +- but still not that bad, especially when compared to misfortune of others.
Eh, for what it's worth older people tend to remember Gierek fondly.
Better
>free housing
>it was mandatory to have a job
>almost free gas /water/electricity/petrol/
>food was cheap as fuck, albeit you couldn't fing exotic products.
>everyone was loaded with money.
>patriotism was instilled in children from the age of 5
> joining and serving in the army was mandatory
Cons
>you didn't had a lot of freedom
> you couldn't talk shit about the president/country
>there were no luxury items/products
Suffering slavs satisfies my soul.
Here in poland cheap housing and free education are what people liked the most about socialism.
Generally your average guy didn't have a whole lot to worry about and you could live in relative comfort.
But yeah, it was kind of like said.
>there were no luxury items/products
Better known as things you don't need.
You don't need a PC, so why don't you give it to the government, faggot?
It was mostly shitty, but some aspects of socialism are missed now, especially by the older generations. Basically, there used to be much more sense of security and tranqulity - in international affairs, with threat of war being perceived as nonexistent and things like terrorism weren't on most people's radar; internal politics, where leaders changed every ten years or so and one could afford to ignore political affairs (yes, they were corrupt thieves, but at least familiar, mundane corrupt thieves - as opposed to now with every single political party trying to uproot everything every four years); in economy, where you could expect to graduate trade school or university, get a job that you would hold till retirement, own an apartment and provide for your family (as opposed to modern economy with permanent employment insecurity, with many people living in 3rd world standards); and culture, where nothing changed, new trends and ideas were denounced by the Party as "imperialist degeneracy' and there was no fear of crime.
Another thing is the fact that for many people Communism represented enormous social advancement. Take my grandfather as an example: he was born in a remote village and spent his childhood living with his illiterate parents, 12 siblings and some pigs in wooden hut, and he didn't have more siblings only because his dad would often fuck some pig instead of his wife. In pre-war quasi-feudal Poland, he would have no chance of changing his life. Thanks to Polish People's Republic he graduated college and became a respected middle-class man, working as a manager of worker's cooperative and later as a banker. If you met him you couldn't possibly tell that he's literally one generation away from swine-shagging, illiterate peasant. There are literally millions of Polish people like him and they have quite a good reason to support the former system.