Is Beethoven's 9th the apex of Western Music?
Why? Why not?
Is Beethoven's 9th the apex of Western Music?
Elijah Hall
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Gabriel Taylor
7th > 9th
Nathaniel Barnes
I love classical music but Beethoven bores the piss out of me. His music in general is way too heavy on motifs for me, and it seems melodramatic. It might have something to do with how ubiquitous his shit is in western culture.
Landon Hill
As far as I'm concerned, the value of the 9th is in the works that it influenced, rather than how good it is in itself. You can hear echoes of the 9th throughout the Romantic period, but I prefer to listen to a lot of those works instead.
Brody Myers
Kunst Der Fugue is better
Connor Evans
No, it's Der Hölle Rache.
Logan Richardson
>His music in general is way too heavy on motifs for me, and it seems melodramatic
It's okay user, you're just aren't ready for him.
Benjamin Taylor
>Why not?
Because it isn't the 5th piano concerto.
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Brandon Sanchez
>it seems melodramatic
i think hes very precise and expressive with what he does, melodramatic sounds like faking an emotion greater than it is, i dont see that in his work.
James Howard
Yes. Each movement is the pinnacle of what it expresses: the 1st is the most colossal, towering piece of glacial drama. The 2nd is the height of mania, endless repetition without being boring. The 3rd is an unmatched celestial sweetness. Then the 4th is the spiritual climax and culmination of all humanity.
Samuel Gomez
>not ready for babby's first classical
Jaxon Perry
>Western Music
He was german, dumbass
Jayden Gomez
Dude if you are gonna bait at least try to not make it super obvious.
Aiden Thomas
all of Europe is the West, boi
Eli Williams
is this ironic
Lucas Gutierrez
Ahem.
Christian Butler
Are you ironic?
Jose Taylor
1. This isn't Western
2. It's shit
Easton Morgan
>user needs the Sup Forums hivemind to tell him whether some music can be enjoyed unironically or not
the absolutely sorry state of Sup Forums.
Jaxon Long
post I replied to was embarrassingly pretentious
Michael Barnes
>assuming all that shit
Colton Rodriguez
>America isn't the west
Eli Roberts
>a good classical piece must be obscure
Typical Sup Forums drone mentality.
Gabriel Allen
literally everyone itt is a loathsome pseud
including me
Leo Howard
also am I the only one who thinks that the 4th movement lasted far too long?
Henry Walker
Niggers aren't Western.
Julian Foster
You merely have no taste.
Jaxson Sanchez
Never listen to Mahler.
Carter Richardson
now this is podracing
Liam Barnes
nice straw man, buddy
Is Schoenberg obscure?
Is he babby's first classical?
James Taylor
I was talking about the user's purple-as-fuck description of the music, not the music itself
Christian Evans
Cool, neither are the Spanish or Italians
Elijah Myers
>mediterraneans are the same as niggers
Are all americans this fucking stupid?
Isaiah Torres
Guah! Beethoven dwellers often suffer from an astonishing lack of fantasy... Easily analogue to a big gaping h o l e. I love beethoven, but theres no doubt who gets the edge between him and HIM.
Jayden Fisher
hmmm doesn't say that on the map
Ayden Cox
Race as a definitive caste trait was invented by the rising bourgeoisie to keep the proletariat from uniting and claiming their rightful place as the rulers of the world.
Samuel Reyes
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Kevin Bell
classical music is gay.
Owen Jackson
>2 lines
That's not purple.
Juan Gomez
something funny user?
Michael Butler
Schubert
Caleb Sanchez
go back the death grips containment thread
William Perry
why are you intent on misunderstanding
did I hurt your ego
Jonathan Baker
If you think that was purple prose you don't know what purple prose is, probably because a 3 paragraph Sup Forums post is the longest thing you've read in months.
Thomas Bell
>classical
Didn't Lou Reed die so we wouldn't have to listen to this shit?
Grayson Garcia
Boring.
Henry Robinson
>he's never listened to D 959
Mason Walker
"Purple prose is the name given to writing — or, well, prose– that’s just too flowery and too melodramatic for its own good. In other words, just way too much."
if you don't think the post was flowery and melodramatic, you're delusional
Christian Martin
It was one fucking sentence per movement you retard, you probably think anything that uses more than one adjective to describe something is purple because your descriptive vocabulary is limited to the words "faggoty" or "epic".
Chase Nguyen
one flowery and melodramatic sentence per movement
Lincoln Cruz
no, Beetoven wasn't the greatest