How come communism didn't collapse in any of these cunts in 1989-91?

How come communism didn't collapse in any of these cunts in 1989-91?

You can't collapse that which has no walls.

China literally smushed their democracy movement with tanks. The others I have no idea.

North Korea isn't communist, it's Juche.

Laos is the one missing from your list.

>China
Not communist in anything but name
>Vietnam
Not communist in anything but name
>Cuba
Moving away from communism now
>North Korea
Because they kill all opposition

China: Switched to state-sponsored authoritarian capitalism in early 1980s. When people protested the government in 1989 they just sent in the army and killed them.

Cuba: Got lucky I guess? We tried to kill Castro 100s of times and failed lmao.

N Korea: It almost did, you should read about the early 90s famines after the USSR collapsed. They're still around because China sugar daddies them (especially the old Chinese president Jiang Zemin).

Vietnam: Reformed similar to China.

In China's case, The other regimes had too firm of a grip on power to fall. Consider that most Eastern European communist regimes were factotums of the Soviet Union and fell as soon as Moscow pulled the plug.

>Laos is the one missing from your list.

the leprechaun of countries

Look up the Sino Soviet spilt.
Deng Xiaoping saved china by going full hypercapitalist and Vietnam followed later.
From what I understand rather than democracy its angry students who fear lack of jobs in capitalist china.
At first Deng send conscripts to ask them to disperse but the conscripts were burned alive inside APCs and hanged from bridges. Only then did he mobilize elite paratroopers and squashed everything.

It helps if you understand that communism in East Asia and Cuba was basically the result of indigenous political movements unlike in Eastern Europe where it was imposed on the back of Soviet tanks and East Asian countries were backwards peasant societies with no tradition of democratic government.

All of those regimes to one extent or another managed to supplant Marxism-Leninism with nationalism.

no, it was definitely about ideology
they don't need to build the goddess of freedom for jobs, and they were all students not some blue collar worker

And also destructive nationalism was a major factor in the collapse of the Eastern European communist bloc, in Yugoslavia, the USSR, Bulgaria, and Romania though only in the first did it lead to an actual shooting war.

China is only half communist. They only survive because of the other capitalist half.
And, Vietnam??? Are they still communist?

Also Soros was behind it too. He funded different nationalist groups in Yugoslavia.

I know about the first two, but what happened in Bulgaria and Romania?

>isolationism
>censure
>brutal repression
>people manipulated to fear change

Vietnam essentially implemented China-style reforms to keep themselves afloat. Also according to some of the Vietnamese that pop up here from time to time the gov't isn't so much repressive as it is incompetent, so the average joe has a bit more leeway with how they want to live.

The BCP decided to wage war on the country's Muslim minority and Ceausescu decided to wage war on ethnic Hungarians, who provided a focal point of resistance to the regime.

Until the 70's China and Vietnam were no different from today North Korean, people's mind and culture got raped by marxism

Because they like it that way.
You should go there.

Ideological backpedaling, and in the case of Cuba, completely selling out to the Yanks.

>Also according to some of the Vietnamese that pop up here from time to time the gov't isn't so much repressive as it is incompetent, so the average joe has a bit more leeway with how they want to live

The CCP largely co-opted traditional Chinese methods of government which involved an all-powerful, bureaucratic state which micromanages all aspects of society and culture. This was not quite the case in Vietnam because while the pre-colonial country was a Confucian bureaucracy just like China, that legacy was totally destroyed by colonialism. As a result, Vietnam is ruled by a pseudo-communist party that wrapped itself in the banner of nationalism, but lacked most of the traditional elements of Vietnamese society to root itself in because those had ceased to exist during colonialism.

Cuba almost didn't survive the 90s when Soviet aid disappeared. At one point, people were literally dropping in the streets from hunger and electricity was limited to two hours a day. The regime would have collapsed by 2005 had Venezuela not bailed them out.

>vietnam and china
state capitalist reforms
>north korea
did collapse and they moved to a low-level market system in the 2000s
>cuba
similarly did sort of collapse.

North Korea was literally born with a soviet occupation phamo

>At one point, people were literally dropping in the streets from hunger
Too bad; they should have listened to Mao Zedong back in the early 60s when he said they should grow food instead of retaining a sugar-based colonial economy.

To an extent, but Kim Il-sung was very much a nationalist who refused to be a Soviet or Chinese puppet, and he also purged pro-Soviet and pro-Chinese KWP officials before the 50s was out.

Vietnam went through a North Korea-like nightmare for the first decade after reunification, then in 1986 the elderly leadership of the war years finally retired and were replaced by new guys who copied the Chinese reform communism.

Most of them gave up on it for the most part
>China
For the most part it's very capitalist with some surviving communist policies. The government is the communist party still but for the most they've abandoned the idea

>Vietnam
Similar to China, socialist leadership but mostly capitalist

>Best Korea
Adapted Juche in the 70's and ditched communism. Don't know much about the ideology; I don't think many people do but the nation seems to be capitalist. Some people say Juche and NK is a remanant of Japanese colonial rule

>Cuba
Actually communist but seems to cope ok, infrastructure getting really bad though.

Authoritarian regimes invariably need an enemy to survive. The USSR declared its enemy as US imperialism and capitalism, but perestroika largely put an end to this, which removed some of the regime's legitimacy. To that end, North Korea and Cuba have still been able to use US imperialism or whatever as their "enemy".

Juche means self reliance.

Really its just an ideology that fluctuates to whatever the Kims want it to be.

They wanted too but the Soviets were giving them aid in exchange for sugar.