How did America get BTFO'd so hard by some farmers in straw hats during the Vietnam war?

How did America get BTFO'd so hard by some farmers in straw hats during the Vietnam war?

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USSR

How did Britain get BTFO'd so hard by some farmers with fishing boats during the Revolutionary war?

SAVAGE

Too many charlies, not enough napalm

The French

What about when they came back for more in 1812?

They had already sent all their non pussfied cunts to Australia and from then on the UK were cucks along with canada.

We didnt. We dominated the locals and the only real resistance came from the other filthy commies.

It was a war lost at home, where there was no fighting.

The US didnt even come close to losing. The US withdrew because the Sup Forumss at home went into shill overdrive

There is no winning an unpopular war.

Plus unlike the revolution we never surrendered

if we would have let the military call the shots instead of using them as a reactive arm of social buerocracy they would hace destroyed the island

They burnt your white house down...

And? We rebuilt it better than before.

Uhh vietnam is not an island

And Napoleon burnt down Moscow

the vietnamese had been fighting for a hundred year against colonialism. The boys we sent had no combat experience.

If you spend your whole life fighting you generally get pretty good at it

Still got rekt though. Stopped you from invading British land (Canada).

36 years later, in a different war

You can't fight againt bombs raining down from the sky.

Yeah, and they fought them out of the country afterwards. In 1812, you fags all called for a truce, and you failed to take any British land.

We didnt lose any territory in the War of 1812 or Vietnam

Talking about 1812 m8

>get asses kicked
>pretend it didn't happen
>therefore it never happened

Brits wanted to cockblock us from our manifest destiny by making the midwest native american territory. See how that turned out.

> muh French intervention

The French we entered the war once they realize that the Americans were capable of enduring the British on their own. It was purely opportunistic.

Nice try with the revisionist history, though.

>you fags all called for a truce
which the Bongs agreed to
> and you failed to take any British land.
They didn't get any of our land plus we got plenty of Indian land

But you failed your objective in 1812. British forces secured their land. You lost. Greatest cover up, was the fact you lost that war, and the fact that the majority of people never heard of it. Britain Australia and New Zealand won the war on communism, in Borneo, but I bet you never heard of that either.

Non engagement and pursue laws. If we saw gooks we mostly couldn't shoot them, and if we thought we knew where gooks were we could not pursue. Vietnam was a political war, not a military war.

>But you failed your objective in 1812. British forces secured their land.
We gained plenty of Indian land

They didn't aim to get your land! Fucking hell, you lost the war, you failed to do any thing, but get good anglos killed on both sides.

Or maybe the 1 million plus Indians desperately trying to defend heir homelands by siding with the seemingly more powerful and organized British to defend against encroaching American and French settlement was part of that

Canada was just a distraction. The real prize was west of the Mississippi

Vietnam was fighting their right for freedom of religion but America thought it was fighting for ideology.

The whole thing began when the French try to colonized Vietnam but they surrender to a few forces and America had to take over in a conflict the had no purpose being their.

When Cia operatives began replacing Buddhist leaders with Catholic leaders, the people became unhappy

That's not British land, of which they were defending.

>kiwi education

The Bongs wanted to prevent us from push west and becoming a superpower
They failed

Public opinion turned when video and pictures of what war looked like began to circulate due to the pansy liberal press, in turn America wasn't able to do what they should've, and wanted, which was burn the entire forest down with napalm

Kinda like US during world wars. Still call themselves back to back WW champions

Liberals

Yeah, you weren't exactly the good guys, Britain outlawed slavery, you wouldn't do that until after your civil war, 50 odd years later.

They were also defending Indian land
Also we did gain fishing rights in the St Lawrence

>keeping niggers in their place
>bad

this
the tet offensive was the reason us withdraw , the offensive totally failed , but peoples at home saw it as the us didnt have the situation Under control and so asked for troops to comeback , after that north vietnam litteraly steamrolled the South without much resistance

>How did America get BTFO'd so hard by some farmers in straw hats during the Vietnam war?

Those people thought for their families, friends, their country and freedom. It was a "be killed or succeed" campaign. They had thought the Japanese before, then the French and then the Americans. After 25 years of fighting, you know, you don't give up just because some asshole wannabe Empire bombs you daily with Napalm and Agent Orange.

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Nobody cares about nigger slaves

uncle ho admired George Washington and looked on himself as fighting a similar revolution against imperialism . the American public had no desire to fight in Vietnam triumph of the will

Because we allowed politicians to come up with the strategy instead of the military

We gave Mcnamara a list of the most important targets from top to bottom and he started at the fucking bottom.

Before we were bombing SAM sites or RADAR installations we were bombing piles of coal. Literal piles of coal. After we bombed them the gooks would just pick up the pieces and throw them back in the pile.

Mcnamara should have been shot for treason along with Jane Fonda.

When the military fights: we win
When politicians fight: we get fucked

Same reason we are getting BTFO by goat fucking ninjas in the middle east:

Liberalism being in any way, shape or form being involved with the army.

Add Politics, and we have soldiers who can't fight a war, to the point where the ragtag militia with no rules can take them on

Prolonging a war for a longer period of time(Artificially, since we could bomb ISIS to hell and back in a week) has it's benefits if you are a jew or a politician.

USSR support, hippies back home complaining about the war and pressuring the government to pull more and more soldiers out until all that was left were skeleton crews who couldn't hold back the nearly unlimited waves of vietnamese. It was entirely overwhelming, and those losses and the pressure back home just made things worse and we ended up pulling out because of it.

Basically pot-smoking degenerates did it

I'll take a swing at this and say it had something to do with rules of engagement.

Yeah, no. Both sides failed to achieve the objectives they originally set out for. The British marched into the United States and starting taking our territory too you know? We were just supposed to let that happen?

Plus the British were funneling weapons to various Native American tribes to prevent the U.S. from gaining more territory to the as-yet untamed western part of North America, and fucking with our trading with other European countries on account of the Napoleonic wars.

Britain got completely fucking wrecked at New Orleans, and repulsed convincingly at Baltimore and Plattsburgh. They were never going to reconquer America or whatever the hell the point of marching down our coast and burning our capital was supposed to accomplish (after all, they were just defending their territory, right?).

>Conventional tactics against Guerilla warfare
>Communist funding
>No real objective or end goal since we couldn't invade the north with out retaliation
>Couldn't destroy supply lines because they were in Laos and Cambodia which we were not allowed to enter
>Low morale
>Unpopularity at home mostly because of The media literally displaying the horrors of war in front of unsuspecting Americans.
That's pretty much it.

IT AINT ME

god this scene make me wish i was born in like the 40's so i could become a helicopter pilot in vietnam

The only way we could've "won" Vietnam is if we killed every single god damned farmer, peasant and villager in the entire fucking country.

We could've done it if we wanted to, but we eventually decided it wasn't worth it.

...

It was a stupid, pointless war. Literally no good reason why we should have been there in the first place
you can't win a war if the people don't want you there

Muh Military Industrial Complex

They didn't it was the faggot hippies who made them lose it. America lost like 70k troops whilst Vietnam lost millions so they won in that aspect

>entire United States Army
>aircraft carrier

>a few hundred

American education ladies and gentlemen

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We shouldn't have gotten involved in the first place. At least with vietnam, we wanted to prevent the domino effect, anything to fight commies is fine by me.

But 9/11 wars, as I like to call them, are a complete disaster. First of all, now we know that Isreal and Saudis were involved, which means that we will look like complete fools if we don't invade them now, but if we already invaded some other country, we have to finish it up and mop up the resistance.

Holy shit, summer is fucking here.

its his first time here be nice

>h-heh w-we d-didn't try to b-beat them

>g-guys i-i'm smart just l-lazy xxd

Because Americans have fancy equipment but they're too incompetent to make full use of it. I mean, their infantry is high tech but their training is what you'd expect from British Cadets

Fpbp, China backed the vietcong, and the ussr backed china. The whole war was the cold war, but not so cold anymore.

Fuck you britbong, you just elected a muslim to take charge of the main capital in Europe. I hope you're leaving Europe you douche.

They burned the white house down in 1812, so...

Since Westerners value life more than third worlders it hits us harder to see one of our own get killed. Even if k/d ratio is in our favor we still don't have much tolerance to high casualties.

Vietnamese were willing to pay a much heavier price, plus their strategic objectives were much easier to attain.

You're right, leaf, it was total war. Our nukes were out of gas and gas prices were so high...

some hairy hippies wept "muh feelings", then bad america left nam, victory for nam.

Still salty about that whole colonies thing huh?

The Marine Corp alone would brutally stomp your countries most heavily trained dentist's before pictures.

You know you're wrong though. Embarrassing

Royal Marines vs. US Marines
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>Some farmers

You had organised Guerilla militias, were well equipt, had the home advantage, outnumbered us, and had support from the French and Spanish (Spaniards at the time had the largest empire in the world).
>BTFO

It was pretty closely fought and the revolution was barely saved at some points.

Successful counter-operations against guerrillas with automatic weapons needs either:

Summary punishment and reprisals to disincentivise irregular activities:
>Germans in WW1
>Germans in WW2

or

Population movement
>British in Second Boer War
>British in Malaysia
U.S. partly implemented this in the "Safe Towns" in Vietnam.

The lack of either measures results in a populace willing to carry out irregular attacks on military forces, such as in:
>Napoleon's invasion of Russia
>Franco-Prussian War (and immediately after, during the German occupation.)
>Vietnam
>Afghanistan
>Iraq

>implying you won

Wat is a stalemate?

they are tough little jungle monkeys, the french before us, and the japanese before them, then the chinese after us, tough little bastards

gotta hand it to them, though we did kill a shit ton of them

Actually the Russians did it for him so he couldn't re-supply.

>fat shits vs farmers
>farners won
Why are you surprised? America is only good for funding terrorists (fighting a proxy war).

>US Rangers vs RAF Pilots
>US has all the advantages
>Still loose.

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no, they lost, to rice farmers, yet they delude thinking they won ww2, they were playing tutorial levels while you and russia were already playing in expert.

still, you lost.

> tfw ho appealed to woodrow wilson after ww1
> tfw he got BTFO
> tfw ho appealed to harry truman after ww2
> tfw he got BTFO
> tfw america decided to prop up the dying french empire and a corrupt regime instead
> tfw vietnam could have been a strong american ally
> tfw we lost 60 thousand lives, billions of dollars, and our nations credibility for fucking nothing

Vietnam is a thriving country now, right?

What? They armed you from day 1 and when they intervened gave you 11,000 men and opened up the chance of an invasion of the British Isles plus 2 more fronts in Africa and India.

>coming from behind in the part where you carry the dead body

You can't make this stuff up

Yeah, we lost 58,000 humans killing 3,500,000 dinks. Not sure what else we lost.

>implying we didnt single handedly beat back the japanese in the pacific, and then fucking nuke them, twice.

it took Britain 3 millenniums to outlaw slavery, it only took us 65 years

What the fuck? The British didn't want to annex US territory you drip. They were protecting their interests in Canada and the West of America.

How did the Brits get btfo by a few paddies with guns? They literally destroyed the best special forces in the world and they sent your army running. Thanks for funding us america.

not all war is militarily fought

It would've been when the military was finished.

the war is what else

>single handedly

>not with many allies, india, australia, etc