Libtards will defend this

>libtards will defend this

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Go check the average salary of a college teacher (few profs are left) and you'll see they already teach for free, you cuckservative POS. (Don't you have a flat earth/god-believer argument you want to make while you're at it, fag?)

socialism is not communism. The end

A socialist college professor (not university apparently?) would teach for free if they lived in a setting where socialism existed. Just because you advocate for something doesn't mean it's already in place and you're capable of making use of it. That's the entire point of pushing for something like a political ideology in a place where said ideology doesn't exist.

You are an enormous idiot of the most epic proportions. Unironically, end it.

As someone who worked in a payroll dept at a college, you sir, are full of fucking shit. Some of these maggots make 6 FireWire salaries for teaching womyn's studies.

>no and here is why
>lol ur stupid kys

What are you? 12?

Yea, i believe you.

Why would they work for free? Their services as a tutor should be free is what socialists say, as it is in Scandinavia.

Stop feeding the stereotype that conservatives are uneducated.

You must talk about totalitarian communism. Communism is an economic model wich have only been tested on a small scale in democratic countries and failed because of criticism blind totalitarian management. Many private companies went bankrupt with the same problem

Some. Well, that changes everything. Ignore the ones who don't and just use the ones that do as examples.

Surprised the closet commies haven't gone after the greedy doctors yet. Their lack of logic says anyone who wants to keep their money is greedy and deserves violent action but nothing about the doctors' putting such a huge price on the health of the "community". Making them work for free would be for the "betterment of humanity" man.

>Stop feeding the stereotype
Stereotypes come from somewhere, eh?

Shitposting four year old confirmed.

So if murder was legal you would still murder even if you thought it shouldn't be. I hate SJWs so much fucking hipocrites

Not all conservatives but there's a bunch of bigoted morons this side who are against individual thinking.
You need to be ready to amend your dogmas to adapt to reality. Facts don't follow your beliefs

Ironically, non-Marxist J. Peterson is one of the few to put his classes on youtube so people get free knowledge from him. Although yes, the students in the class do pay and he does get paid for the classes in the first place.

When doctors don't need to pay huge student loans they can work for a reasonable price and you can have an efficient public service like in france

They would if the goods and services they need were free as well.

>an efficient public service like in france
I don't think you've chosen the correct example here mate.
Sure minor medical issues are cheap in France, but that's about it. And the system is far from efficient.

>they would if everything was given o me for free
I hate entitled millennials like you so much.

Health is not as expensive here than in USA. Even a better efficiency cannot balance financial parasitism

noone gives a fuck about old whiny slaves like you

when did Sup Forums become full of facebook shitposters who post images with watermarks on them lol.

LOUDERWITHCROWDER!

>slaves
Are you a soclalist? that's tought becasue SOCIALISM DOESN'T WORK
>what is intellectual property

>intellectual property

>on Sup Forums

kek look at this nigger

Trips of truth

Instead, liberal college professors do stuff like this for free.

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Not expensive but ever creating debt. More debt, the less serious health issue are covered but the public health care. It is already the case of cancer in france for instance.
So yeepee, guy with a cold wont pay anything but cancer guy will have to pay more and more every year as the debt increases.

Good non-argument. It's not at all a waste of space. I especially liked how you didn't address any point whatsoever.

>So if murder was legal you would still murder even if you thought it shouldn't be.

I have no idea what the fuck you are saying. If murder were legal it would be legal. Why would I murder though? If I had a reason, then I might. But maybe not. Your argument is so fucking stupid I can't even guess what you're trying to say.

So you are saying you WOULD murder someone if it was legal?
This is to be expected for someone who supports killing of unborn babies but still, despicable.

Actually, that image is wrong.

Upkeep for the military is 3 trillion. In 3 years, our debt would be gone.

If you taxed the upper top corporate earners and close their loop holes, then you could afford free healthcare and education. He actually has presented bills explaining exactly how to do it.

I'm not a liberal or a socialist but I'm smart enough to know that people don't work for free in a socialist economy.
Way to be a dumb mother fucker

Also, socialism does work. Our infrastructure, emergency services and military are socialized.

You can tell this is written by a cuckservative. They have no idea beyond propaganda what Liberal ideas actually are, and they really can't stand for teachers or anyone who doesn't directly produce wealth to make a decent living.

France spends among the most on healthcare, yet their universal health care system is still cheaper than the US and they have longer life expectancies.

The American system is so fucking broken it's absurd.

>SOCIALISM MEANS FREE
2/10 made me reply

I like how the government can train people to fly in fighter jets, helicopters, operate drones, defuse IEDs but there is no way the government could possibly train anyone to be a doctor.

Oh and these government trained doctors would actually serve a purpose after their training instead of just becoming alcoholics, homeless or committing suicide after their service.

If you taxed them businesses would fail and millions would lose their jobs, witch would be an even bigger drain on our resources witch would lead to a malfunctioning healthcare (just like the USSR) and it would just spiral like that until bancrupcy. Good job libtard, cleary you don't know about economics. Learn from people who actually succeded, not your false idols.
And this is why our debt is so high.

Pick one "you support socialism but you work in a capitalism you hypocrite" "you only support socialism because you're an unemployed loser"

Actually, our healthcare was done by military doctors. My dental care, Dad's back surgery, etc. we're either done by Captains educated on the militaries dime or were referred and covered by government healthcare

Our debt is high because conservatives constantly cut taxes under the delusion it will always raise revenues from a growing economy. The Laffer Curve has two slopes to it, and we're on the left side.

The social democracies of Europe have balanced budgets and remarkably low debt to GDP ratios.

>run out of other people's money
Let's see how long that takes us, shall we?

Just saying that if it weren't for capitalism you tards wouldn't even have this discussion, the chance to prevail is what makes the world evolve, if you still don't agree with me get a plane to North Korea asap, and try t live to tell the tale.
Have a nice day bitches!

Gotta cut out the middle man... insurance companies

The reality of unregulated capitalism.

It's a game and they're winning.

Fucking liar.

My brother is one of those professors.

Claims to our mom he doesn't make shit.
In the same conversation claims he turned down a $250k/yr job

I looked right at my mom and said, "You don't turn down a $250k/yr job without having a $250k/yr job already."

Yes, he is a libtard, Bernie supporter.

Also, All his kids go to the college for free since he is employed there.

So yeah, being a college professor is a sweet gig.

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i work for the labor dept for a state, middle school teachers here make 70-90k a year and get summers off.

Why would they fail? Doesn't capitalism mean they would find a way to deliver thekr service as effectively as possible? For example, if we collect 1% of Apple's billion dollar industry, their corporate CEO probably couldn't afford a 7th home. How sad.

And our debt is high because we have a standing army and every continent. I remember the base in Turkey would have twice as many supplies delivered- one the Turks could go through and one they couldn't.

Dubs of truth

ITT 20,000 different definitions of socialism.

Where do you live?

In Wisconsin I started at $34,750.

No one pays adjunct professors because they don't teach anything worth paying for

Wouldn't you feel bad if you worked your entire life to make that fortune and they took it away so they could pay for some homeless bum who refuses to work?
Why are liberals so devoid of empathy?

That's what happens when anything to the left of an unregulated corporate rapocracy is called socialism.

no.

One of my professors lst semester makes over $300000. He is head of a department that he never even got a degree in.
Are you retarded?

Yeah, yurop full of mudslimes. Look at how it worked out for them.
Meanwhile the best country in the world is ruined bu it's own citizens. Sad.

$70-90K
Must be a major urban area. Multiple AAA school districts kinda shit.

>worked your entire life
lol

The few people that did work for their fortunes give billions to charity. So no, I don't imagine they would. You're devoid of reality.

lmao

I hope you're trolling

No, their salaries would be paid through the government.

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You literally said you might murder someone if it was legal, stop backpeddling.

Most professors and other academics do not have the option to do this - it is often determined by the university/college if lectures are published publicly elsewhere.

>took it away

Look at the chart they've already taken all the money while us middle class people argue over minimum wage, insurance and if teachers making >50k a year is too much.

They practically do work for free. Next question, preferably from someone who has graduated from high school.

Non sequitur. You can have borders and universal health care ya dummy.

>taken all the money
Unlike you they worked for it, not just sat and expected the governement to give it to you for free.

It's football couch in Montana now, I think. Missoula's Dean stepped down after cutting salaries, removing departments and then built an athletes lounge and gave himself a pay raise as enrollement died.

The people who think professors are Marxist Jews have never been to college.

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If Libertarian mouth breathers believed their own propaganda...

Wouldn't they move to the small gov't paradise of Somalia?

Do you really think the ultra-rich work harder than the lower middle class?

If so, you're either sheltered or delusional.

if a 12 year old is smarter than you, sure

>winrar

Technically they would teach for food/shelter/defense.

In a true socialist enviroment, people must be able to put into the system to take out from it. They would eventually need to rid of the elderly, disabled, and non workers.

The government would own the college business and provide all means to care for those who work within the school.

I do agree that professors are hipocritical. After all they are surrounded by uneducated morons and eventually their enviroment begins to shape them.

Emergency services, military, police, and roads are built entirely to make the capitalistic structure of america more effective. These are things that are paid for through taxes only because a capitalistic structure exists where people can buy things and be taxed when payong for them. Without a free market of goods there is nothing to tax. Without anything to tax there is nothing to redistribute.
Socialism in an of itself needs capitalism to even exist on a small scale. In and of that small scale it is a necessesary evil of a capitalistic structure. Capitalisms existence is so powerful that it created the freedom for you to have such a shitty opnion about economic structures. Capitalism is litteraly so great that it allows you to be a retard and still exist.

Yet libtards keep promoting both.
If that's not the case why aren't there more rich people? Come on, try, and when you come back bancrupt because you don't know shit about economics and only pretend then we'll talk.

Libtard spotted

I never once said Capitalism should cease to exist. I just think it should be regulated so rich assholes and their brainwashed pawns don't collapse the worlds economy again.

Moron.

You're so inured with political tribalism you can't recognize a good idea if it's not from your team. Sad!

And if you were paying attention, the original claim was that the debt is high because of spending on 'socialism' like infrastructure. The social democracies of Europe have very low public debt all while spending on infrastructure, universal health care, higher education, etc. Debt is high in the United States because Republicans constantly cut taxes, then spend like madmen on pointless wars.

Actually, dumbass, most rich fucks leave their capital in their businesses, instead of transferring to offshore banks, when personal income taxes rise. You must be that republican that doesn't know shit about economics. Oh, wait, that's ALL republicans.

Read Capital by Thomas Picketty. Quit living in ignorance.

You implied it. We both know that.
Liberalisms ultimate goal is to destroy western society. Wether you belive that yourself or not is irrelevant.
Rich assholes are rich for a reason. You are not rich for a reason.
Get over it.

>why aren't there more rich people

I can not even fathom the kind of confusion of ideas that would provoke such a question...

>Read Capital by Thomas Picketty. Quit living in ignorance.

This.

But the same faggots that voted for Trump will probably shoot this down, not realizing that it essentially argues that they've been left behind by the global economy.

That's how fucking stupid they are. They bite the hand that feeds over, and over, and over, and over...

If you know this then why are you not conservative?
If you both know and understand that the people who are rich have all over their money tied up in capital that creates jobs and wealth for other people then why in the fuck would you support socialism? These rich people you complain about don't just have a fucking billion dollars in a room in there house. It is all likely invested besides a couple hundred thousand. This money is out to work makeing jobs and products for everyone else. It is by far a better system then socialism because takeing from the rich and giving to the poor destroys job. It destroys the richs incentive to work and it destroys the poors incentive to work.

The irony of a poor amerifat with no healthcare writing this is just... astounding.

He lives in a state with a high cost of living. Where 90k isn't shit. In my state, teachers qualify for food stamps in the summer.

If I was poor and fat wouldn't i be the one you are championing for?
If I was poor and fat and held this opnion then would that not make my opnion even less biased then you already assume it is?
When you don't understand economics resorting to ad hominem arguements make you (and other liberals) look bad you know that right?

Dubs say the truth again...

He is right through user he got you there. All we have to do is hand over all the power, property, and means of production to the state and all teachers would be teaching for free.

I wouldn't though given the track record. in b4 'wasn't real socialism'

Oh snap more dubs of truth

Yet the USSR collapsed, funny isn't it?
Debt in the USA is so high because liberals and unions keep destroying businesses and groupls like BLM run accros our cities. Europe didn't have a nigger problem until recently.

If Somalia was white it would be a paradise.

If any place was white it would be a paradise

like iceland!

Better then africa. Thats for sure

>for free

You are the least-qualified person to speak on the subject ever. There have never been pure socialist or pure capitalist economies in world history. You cannot separate the two. You can only balance the two to the benefit of everyone or fail at balancing the two. To demonize socialism is declaring your ignorance of economics in big neon letters.

Time to kill yourself, GED boy.