User

user,
what do women want ?

They want to absolve themselves of all responsibility. They want a man to take that responsibility.

They want someone who is simultaneously an effective provider but at the same time has plenty of time available to spend with them.

They want someone who can tell what mood they are in and adapt to it.

Obligatory response: a 12 inch dick made out of chocolate that ejaculates money.

they want someone who can provide for them all their wants

they want someone who will listen to their bitching

they want a masculine man they can show off to their friends

they want romance, romance, romance, and yet spontaneous errections from their man

You forgot one thing.
They want someone to "love" them whatever shit they do.
They want someone to take the blame for whatever shit they do
They want a plaything that NEVER says no to anything
They want someone that NEVER whines or have a problem about anything

But do you know what they need?
A bit of violence, a bitchslap and some rough fucking until they pussy bleeds.

who cares

Someone better than their friends' guys

Women don't even know that answer.

To ruin my life over and over and over again.

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anyone but you

old married guy here.

women want everything. like a bottomless fucking pit of want. they can never have enough or even be content with what they have. eventually they just turn into a nagging machine.

The funny thing is that the few "loving wives" that remain they can't offer sex.
You spent a few years with them and at the age of 27 you feel like a married 60yr old man that has sex 1 time every fucking month, if you're lucky and it's not something mind blowing anyway.

This life is hopeless, women are either cumdumpsters or nuns. There is nothing in between. Nothing.
Most of these independent and strong women will probably die alone with 10 cats.

its a scaled answer

poor women want material support.

middle class women want material support and romance

high class women want something to show off to their friends in society and support for their support in society.

and they all want spontaneous erections.

this.

what is that saying? men marry a woman hoping she doesn't change & women marry a man they hope to change.

neither happen & both are miserable.

Amen, brother. Fellow old, married slob. My wife has turned into a zombie. The unhappiest, zombie woman in the fucking world. Hasn't had to pay a bill or exercise one ounce of personal responsibility for 18 years. Still, the unhappiest person I have ever known.

Nagging machine is litterly the worst and true

> be 35yo me
> find 21yo gf
> she's from traditional community
> traditional family
> college educated but not libtarded
> despises sjw's and 3rd wave feminists
> she works, cooks, cleans, etc.
> ... Cannot suck a dick to save her life.
> non-existent sex drive
> she'll put out if I want it, but no skills
> she's attractive enough 6.5/10
> at least considering the age differences
> just find myself fapping more and more after a year and a half

I'm convinced it's super unlikely to get the best of both worlds. Being a whore to get good at sex destroys traditional values, and traditional values prevent getting practiced at fucking.

Weak men stay with weak women.
You are now enlightened. Get up, get out, get a new lofe, or cry at your lonely deathbed, knowing that you failed the only person who truly loves you and you cannot lie to: yourself.
Seen it happen. No shame in being scared though, but just do it!

Same thing any sane person wants: not to have to deal with cunts like you.

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Attention.

many woman seem to feel being female is a handicap they should be compensated for. They want to control and use sex to maximally exploit men. They see the male sex drive as a tool women should use to control them. They seek to reduce female sexual availability to make it more valuable. They tell young women they should regret sex or that they should only hook up with other girls.

This x100. It's all about competition with other women.

No all humans change.
But when you're in a relationship or marry someone you hope they don't change and become what you hate.

The funny thing is changes happen in a relationship so it would be a better one.

We men act more with our feelings so we will change some aspects of us so we could make that other someone happier.

Women on the other hand are trash. They think they are princesses. They won't change. They say they will but never do.

It's the same when you ask them if they have something? "Are you alright?" "YES IM FUCKING FINE!"
Same shit. A woman and especially these new stronk indie women they will NEVER say they made a mistake, they will NEVER take the blame for something they have done.

They will drive their boyfriend to madness, misery and paranoia until he dies or breaks up with them and even then they will never take the blame.
In their heads they think they are perfect.

What women want changes from moment to moment except for the fact that they expect men to accept that fact and be ok with that.

It's not the skills I'm talking about. What I said is my personal experience.
She didn't have much skill but at least the first year we were fucking like rabid bunnies.
After 4 years she starts to fall off and now (5 years) I'm mostly fapping.

3 weeks ago we fucked one time after a month or something and I wanted more. She turnt and said "have mercy user"

No sex drive, she doesn't even do kinky shit when I ask her, THE MOST SIMPLE KINKY SHIT A WOMAN CAN DO!

I found myself wanted to beat her senseless while we fuck or strangle her.
I came to hate her after all this time.

at this point I would just be happy if she would shut the fuck up. endless babble about shit she wants or what "needs" to get done next.

all went to hell in her late 20s early 30s......

she used to be fun.

no idea
at this point in my life they do not seem human at all

I feel you Sup Forumsro.
I'm in my early 30s now so was my gf.

It's for this reason that I won't ever get married or have kids. I hear too many horror stories from people that have tied the knot and it's always the same fucking story.

I'll never have kids because I don't want my son/daughter to see their parents miserable.

Same as men, money and social power.
The methods to get it may vary.

I was fine with her as my gf but she wanted to get married & have kids. ok so I do it. now the 3 young kids make her miserable & she takes it out on me. really worked out well for me...

Or fighting. Stats show that children exposed to that shit harm them in way parents aren't thinking about during the fight. If it's all just about continuing the species for the sake of propagation without any satisfaction or happiness, then maybe it's best we just die out.

Sorry man. And once you're stuck on that boat, you're committed for life. It's so sad because I would love to have a wife and kids as long as it remained in that whole rose colored white picket fence fairy tale. But man reality hurts like a bitch. If I have to die alone, it still sounds better than this shit.

That sucks.
I just cheat with a side chick that's a total whore. Loves that I'm taken, loves getting choked. Only fuck her once a quarter but it's satisfying enough that I feel rejuvenated and can appreciate the other aspects of my relationship. Now I understand why men have kept mistresses throughout history.
You marry a good woman.. But physical satisfaction comes from sluts.

is pic related?

No.. But I'll show you this pic of the side chick.

Yeah it's best if we go extinct.

There were no openings for me to do something like that. But I had thoughts of doing it the past year.

Excellent. Don't let go of her. Is she an actual whore that comes out of your pocket? Or is she just some random chick?

The one getting blown looks kind of gay, to me.

Anyone got sauce on this? Image search yields nothing

Who cares.

hmm, I'm in the same position here. Been married 3 years, but I've been fucking this other girl on the side for about 2 years now cos my wife is, well she's fine. Just not very adventurous in bed. Her on top is pushing her sexual horizons to the extreme. (Loves giving head though so that's a plus). The other girl is just a down and out fucker nympho though. Loves to be dominated; loves to take it up the ass, loves being choked, spanked, humiliated, bound up, slapped etc etc.

The issue is that I'm getting a bit paranoid. I know the other girl is pretty much fucking anyone who'll buy her a drink. It's how we met. I will almost always wear condoms but sometimes I'm just too drunk/horny not to think about it. I know I am playing with fire every time I fuck her; She says she is clean but seriously, the woman is fucking at least a different man every week so... Well it's just a matter of time. Plus things are going well with the wife (planning on having kids soon) so I should probably call it all off anyways. She should be fine with it, we are quite close personally and I just hope to god she doesn't get into financial problems and start blackmailing me or whatever. We shall see.

The ideal would be to be able to upgrade to a younger less used up but equally slutty girl but I'm not holding my breath that another one is just going to fall into my lap any time soon.

a lot of male porn stars are at the very least bi/sexual. Some actually gay. Kinda makes sense if you are getting naked in front of other guys filming you having sex for a living.

you shouldn't do that to your wife. she probably loves you very much.

Not even women know what they want, how would some user know?

yeah I know she loves me.
and the other girl loves anal

hence the problem

Been doing it for years.
She has been with the same guy for half a decade and is in the same situation as I am. He has little sex drive but is otherwise ideal. So.. We use eachothers genitals every few months. If we were ever single simultaneously we may try to make a go of it. Until then we just maintain our lives separately and fuck on occasion when either of us is feeling the itch. She's pretty tight after all.

That's not a fair risk to your wife.
If you're being unfaithful at least be respectful of her health.

Someone who can provide lots of money

Lost a gf to an old guy that way once.
These hoes ain't loyal.

Me

Who cares? Why do people question it so much?

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i only read virgin trash here
usual day with b/tards

Arms like that guy

Because it's an enigma for the ages.
Like "the meaning of life?" or "Does Jesus masturbate with his hand holes?"
We may never know, but it's the question that drives us.

This. Kek

because we're not faggots like you that care what men want.

>it's the question that drives us
Not me

When are you going to wake up and no longer assume that those who are unconcerned with women are homosexual?

> we got an answer 17 years ago
Watch the documentary.

That's a nice fuck slot.

Also, I do the same. The problem is finding a new one when the one go-to gets serious or drops off the map.

>implying you can find out what women want by hearing tier thoughts. (they dont know).

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That's why I keep a rotation available to me. Long term fwb as a plan b and c.
Gotta play the long game and realize you're going to be a cheater. Embrace it and you'll get better at making and maintaining pieces of ass on your peripheral.

Women are essentially goal post movers; the cause of this is varied and individual but it all causes the same outcome.

I learned that in highschool.
The term was
"always looking for the BBD."
(bigger better deal)

>bigger better deal
For them, this is usually just some douchebag, though.