The earliest Finnish immigrants into the US were colonialists who were Swedes in the legal sense and perhaps spoke Swedish. They settled in the Swedish colony, and were supposed to have assimilated into the British culture quickly.[12] More recent Finns were on several occasions "racially" discriminated against[13] and not seen as white, but "Asian". The reasons for this were the arguments and theories about the Finns originally being of Mongolian instead of "native" European origin due to the Finnish language belonging to the Uralic and not the Indo-European language family.[14]
On January 4, 1908, a trial was held in Minnesota about whether John Svan and several other Finnish immigrants would become naturalized United States citizens or not, as the process only was for "whites" and "blacks" in general, and district prosecutor John Sweet was of the opinion that Finnish immigrants were Mongols. The judge, William A. Cant, later concluded that the Finnish people may have been Mongolian from the beginning, but that the climate they lived in for a long time, and historical Finnish immigration and assimilation of Germanic tribes (Teutons)—which he considered modern "pure Finns" indistinguishable from—had made the Finnish population one of the whitest (fairest) people in Europe. If the Finns had Mongol ancestry, it was distant and diluted. John Svan and the others were made naturalized US citizens, and from that day on, the law forbade treating Finnish immigrants and Americans of Finnish descent as not white.[15][16]
In the beginning of the 20th century, there was a lot resentment from the local American population towards the Finnish settlers because they were seen as having very different customs, and were slow in learning English. Another reason was that many of them had come from the "red" side of Finland, and thus held socialist political views.[17]
>On January 4, 1908, a trial was held in Minnesota about whether John Svan and several other Finnish immigrants would become naturalized United States citizens or not, as the process only was for "whites" and "blacks" in general, and district prosecutor John Sweet was of the opinion that Finnish immigrants were Mongols. The judge, William A. Cant, later concluded that the Finnish people may have been Mongolian from the beginning, but that the climate they lived in for a long time, and historical Finnish immigration and assimilation of Germanic tribes (Teutons)—which he considered modern "pure Finns" indistinguishable from—had made the Finnish population one of the whitest (fairest) people in Europe. If the Finns had Mongol ancestry, it was distant and diluted. John Svan and the others were made naturalized US citizens, and from that day on, the law forbade treating Finnish immigrants and Americans of Finnish descent as not white.[15][16]
Just a reminder that the law stated that Finns are technically White, therefore, the Mongol meme should end
Benjamin Ward
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Brody Evans
Americans became racist towards African and Asian people only in the 19th century. Before that racemixing was common.
Matthew Jackson
>or not, as the process only was for "whites" and "blacks" And blacks?
Christian Bennett
So basically Finns are commie chinks?
Benjamin Roberts
Greeks are more white than Finns. Turks are more European than Finns.
>The Civil Rights Act of 1866 made blacks full U.S. citizens (and this repealed the Dred Scott decision). In 1868, the 14th amendment granted full U.S. citizenship to African-Americans. The 15th amendment, ratified in 1870, extended the right to vote to black males. The Freedmen's Bureau was an important institution established to create social and economic order in southern states.[2]
Justin Ward
>be Swedish American >act Swedish >get executed for it
Connor Reed
>Americans became racist towards African and Asian people only in the 19th century. >Before that racemixing was common. 1/10 Blacks were seen as farm animals.
Luke Jones
>If the Finns had Mongol ancestry, it was distant and diluted. White man's lies!
Jackson Carter
Look up the last name Mozingo. It's Congolese origin but carried by White Americans only because of IR marriage in the 18th century.
Oliver Brooks
>One family >Never confirms it with a simple DNA test
Angel Williams
As if someone is concerned about memes of the origin and whiteness
Josiah Cox
>assimilation of Germanic tribes (Teutons) Today on shit that never happened
>Nykyisin pitäjän nimestä on vallalla toisenlainen käsitys. Nimistötutkija tohtori Petri Hiltusen mukaan Rengon nimi on germaanista alkuperää. Vastaavasti äännettyjä nimimuotoja (Renco, Rencho, Renk) tavataan ennen keskiaikaa saksalaisella kielialueella. Sanan merkitys on ollut Hiltusen mukaan sama kuin Hathun eli taistelu tai ottelu. Renc-sanan merkitys on muinaissaksissa myös 'ylimielinen', 'ylpeä' tai 'kopea'.
>Esimerkiksi Rengon kylät Waimare ja Muurila ovat pitäjän vanhimmat kylät. Näin Rengon kylien nimet voidaan johtaa seuraavasti: Muurila = Mure, Waimare = Weimar, Wiiala = Wia, Kutila = Gudi ja Nevilä = Nevi. Pitäjän oma nimi ja kylien nimistö olisi siis paljolti saksalaisperäistä ja puhtaasti ei-kristillistä.
WE WAS PROUD GERMANS FROM WEIMAR AND SHIT
Cameron Foster
But it never did happen. Genetics do not support it. A few Germanic loans don't prove anything.
>Of the 28% of I1 in Finland, 65% belong to the exclusively Finnish L287 (downstream of L22) and particularly its L258 subclade. A few percents more belong to other subclades that are also specifically Finnish (e.g. L300). The rest (5-10%) generally resemble more closely Swedish I1. The Swedish-like subclades are unsurprisingly found primarily on the west and south-west coast of Finland, where Swedes have settled in historical times and where Swedish is still spoken. This is also where most of the R1b (3.5%) and Scandinavian R1a-Z282 (3%) is to be found. The Scandinavian I1 in Finland is found at a similar proportion to R1b and R1a as in Sweden. In contrast, Finnish I1 is found in all the country, where hardly any Germanic Y-DNA is present strongly hints that the I1 in Finland is pre-Germanic origin.
Robert King
Who cares about haplogroups?
I feel a spiritual connection to my German ancestors who destroyed the Roman empire t. 1/32 Renko
Hudson Long
>White Finns are svecomen.
Hurr durr, it's an obvious bait but i gotta answer this one. The whole driving idea of finnish state is fennoman and those who fought to keep the current ideals and government where explicitally fennomen since svecoman movement had been snuffed out and abolished already.
>John Morton (1725 – April 1, 1777) was a farmer, surveyor, and jurist from the Province of Pennsylvania. As a delegate to the Continental Congress during the American Revolution, he provided the swing vote that allowed Pennsylvania to vote in favor of the United States Declaration of Independence. Morton signed the Declaration and chaired the committee that wrote the Articles of Confederation.
Eli Rivera
You have sumnmoned haplogroup and kang fags now. Well done.
>During the first waves of migration the Swedes were also subjected to certain stereotypes and prejudices. The expression "dumb Swede" was established as they had problems learning English. There were entertainment shows which used a character called "John Johnsson" when poking fun at Swedes. He was dumb, clumsy, drank too much and talked with a funny accent.[17] The immigrant historian Rudolph Vecoli has pointed out [18] that they were not initially always recognized as "whites" in the Anglo-Saxon or German sense, but after the wave of Polish immigration this attitude shifted.
