/pagan/

this is a general for discussing paganism
welcome: pagans, on the fence christians/atheists/whatever
not welcome: deus gevalt fags, mudslimes, kikes.

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archive.org/details/ConceptOfLeftAndRight
genius.com/Nicolas-gomez-davila-selected-aphorisms-part-i-annotated
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pol is a christian board you fucking heathen
also burzum is trash

Dont be a fedora just be a Christian. Atheists will destroy the West with their low birth rates. And they hardly ever join the military or feel patriotic. Theyre a bunch of commies.

Sup Forums is a political discussion board
>just turn the other cheek goy
lmao

Is Donald J. Trump an avatar of Odin?

no he's the avatar of kek

no thats stupid and disrespectful and im not even an odinist

Paganism is as cucked as it gets, puts pussy on a pedestal...

Not only that but denying God's only begotten son, Jesus Christ, when he's clear as daylight in front of you, the salvation and belief through Him being the foundation for almost all of the White race's successes - It's just edgy. So contrarion.

Pagans contributed nothing to the race. All advancements and glory of the White man come from when he was Christian. Guided by God and Jesus, the only religion that makes any sense, the only religion with a historical figure that didn't use his status for personal gain. Jesus didn't fuck 9 years old, but muhammad did, and your pagan practices had a lot of blood involved in them too.

Find the light in Christ anons. If you don't, you're not really White. You're race is bypassed by edge.

>what is rome
>what is egypt
>what is persia
>what is greece
fuck off retard

tell me more about paganism, is it really a revival of the old religion, or is it more like a political ideologoy

Fuck you for worshipping some lord of the rings bullshit

always relevant

former
feck off
i like this saved

so what is your treatise on the existence of the gods

Why is it disrespectful? Also checked.

The "redpilled" form of Paganism is a revival of ancient Aryan spirituality. The "bluepilled" form of Paganism is basically being a contrarian and worshiping various "gods" because you're not down with JC or your parents.

Check our Julius Evola's "Revolt Against the Modern World" for an in-depth analysis of the consistent spiritual beliefs held by all Aryan peoples including the Indo-Aryans at the time of the Vedas, the ancient Greeks, Romans and Vikings.

Where were the pagan gods when people turned away from paganism? Why didnt they stop them?

I appreciate the peaks of Western civilization and the birth pangs of it, and while there was some contributions from Christianity, I doubt it was much, and begin to even question if it contributed to the decadence we see today.

Either way, I can't bring myself to believe in the Christian religion. It would be insincere.

would you consider hinduism to be a practical return to the roots?

i am thinking it might be a good idea, since the indians have preserved the sacred, ancient texts. sturluson was christian, so i am not sure if he is to be trusted on accuracy

They don'the ask people to worship them.

The Vedas and Vedic tradition are wholesome, but modern Hinduism is largely just ooga-booga idol worship now that Indians are non-white.

I would recommend checking out the Vedas, the Eddas, the Iliad and Odyssey and the Aeneid, as well as Julius Evola's work.

Evola makes good sense of the symbolism that is shared between the cultures, the worldview and so on.

alri

>having to beg your followers to worship you
>not being a cuck slave religion

Pick one.

>Pagan
> 21 century

Paganism is shit. Vikings were the original robbing niggers of Europe, choosing to take what others made with their hard work instead of putting in the effort to make a functional civilization themselves. There's a reason paganism is gone.

Also, Metal is degenerate unlistenable trash. Even rap is less offensive to the ear. I swear to god the next time I hear a "musician" doing those cringey growling vocals I will boot him in the throat as hard as I fucking can. He'll probably thank me for improving his lyrics.

b8

Shut up burger retard. Roman golden age was under the gaze of MOTHERFUCKING JUPITER, not kike on a stick that marked its decay.

C'mon motherfuckers i dare you to call classical PAGAN world barbaric.

please answer

what is it you believe op?

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Which flavor of pagan are you?

>Paganism is as cucked as it gets
>let's worship Joseph's wife's son instead!

How exactly do neo-Pagans think they can resurrect spiritual Paganism without it being forced? I mean frankly how do you go against the spirit of the times by going so much backwards? Proper spirituality should come along times, it seems artificial to me to try and resurrect old religions who lost they link to their people/culture/spirit a long time ago.

I'm not affiliated with any religion and I have more sympathy for Paganism than I have to Christianity.

>be atheist
>veteran
>nationalist
>vote trump
>married
>two kids
>28 years old

>Atheists will destroy the West with their low birth rates.

We can wipe out millions of lives with the push of a button - the problem isn't our birthrates, the problem is everything around it, starting with idiots or greedy kikes who want us to breed for constant growth.

>the spirit of the times by going so much backwards? Proper spirituality should come along times, it seems artificial to me to try and resurrect old religions who lost they link to their people/culture/spirit a long time ago.

You don't need to resurrect what is still alive and ticking, it is all a matter of knowing what you are looking at, that was there all along.

Friendly bump. Seems interesting.
Needs more content in the OP.

>The Path of Wotan: our spiritual heritage by Jost
archive.org/details/ThePathOfWotanOurSpiritualHeritage

Maybe what we need isn't a /pagan/ general, but an /esoterics/ general

>Leszek Kołakowski
youtube.com/watch?v=oZtJP7M-9Og
>A challenge to conservatism
archive.org/details/TheSocialDemocraticChallengeAResponseToConservatism
>Left and Right
archive.org/details/ConceptOfLeftAndRight

>Nicolás Gómez Dávila
genius.com/Nicolas-gomez-davila-selected-aphorisms-part-i-annotated
genius.com/Nicolas-gomez-davila-selected-aphorisms-part-2-annotated

>Mircea Eliade
youtube.com/watch?v=6v8Kf6vYYeY
>The Sacred and The profane
archive.org/details/TheSacredAndTheProfane
>The Hermeneutics of Religious Phenomenon
archive.org/details/MirceaEliadeTheHermeneuticsOfTheReligiousPhenomenon

>Julius Evola
>The Roots of Western Nihilism
youtu.be/5AII--2mSxA

>Savitri Devi
youtube.com/watch?v=2ysvRPYq1AU
>Savitri Devi - Gold in the Furnace
archive.org/details/GoldInTheFurnace_314
>Savitri Devi - Impeachment of Man
archive.org/details/impeachment-of-man-savitri-devi

Christfags never respond to this image

But how do you conjugate it with modernity for instance? I'm not talking about the tradition or the principles but the strict spiritual part. You think it can be a viable spiritual alternative to the more familiar Christianity? Keep in mind that the latter has at least 1500 years or so of development in part alongside the precursors of modern thought, so it adjusted with times and even then it barely keeps up and is dying in the west. European paganism would have to catch up.

Is there any proof of paganism or reason to believe in it? Aren't ther zillions of pagan European religions? How do you pick?

I am atheist, what reason do I pursue one of these?

baka senpai

There's exactly the same amount of proof as christianity, and millions of flies follow that.

I hear people claiming to be Pagan. Do you guys even have a set belief system? Who are your gods, are they the nordic, greek, or roman ones?

What exactly stops you from adapting pagan wisdom and spirituality to your daily life? Plato, Aristotle, stoic philosophers disagree with you, i am not sure what you mean with keeping up, paganism is open ended, you master your own destiny.

Christianity's goal is submission and this is why for the most part kings were eager to convert people into a religion that supported such attitude. I don't understand what Christianity as to offer to people that are of good consciousness and can understand that there is no need for carrot and stick theology in order to have people behave in a acceptable way.

To me paganism, the closest relationship we have with our ancestors, our past and the wisdom of the ages.

Pagan stories and myths are rich in lessons to teach. Give them a try, look for a good translation that is supported with notes for full context.

The beauty of beign pagan is that there is no obligation or dogma.

pagans old and new worshiped their personal pantheons. Roman historians show this, at one point in the Empire cult to Isis was very popular among greeks and romans too.

Paganism is organic, you also paid salute to the gods of the given region too.

youtube.com/watch?v=YNdIBxebOiQ&list=PLiHDMF3If6rrGXzEHxI7zVNA1BDzaDoZR&index=9

>All advancements and glory of the White man come from when he was Christian.
So let's forget that ancient Greece and Rome - the forerunners of modern western society - were pagan long before they were Christianized?

BTW atheism was acceptable in pagan mindset. Commonplace for greek and roman philosophers to question the existence of the divine or discard it altogether as non-important issue

Nice vid.
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I mean this is good vid.

Top kek, more pagan memes. This shit is hysterical. They call Christians cucks, but the only pagans one ever sees are pothead degenerates and whores. It's all just kike-promoted shit against Christianity to undermine the Whites and the West.

>They call Christians cucks

That's an inate truth that doesn't go away because the other side has some pothead degenerates.

It's too foolish to warrant a serious response, namely so much of what we consider Western and European, our greatness, was in no small part after we became Christian. And outside the Greek pagans through Rome, no other European pagans had any impact on Europe for the past 1000-1500 years. Ironic that so many Odin cucks use other pagan cultures, or vice-versa to make this foolish meme-tier argument.

Yeah that I can see but the strictly spiritual part is what interested me in this case. Some Pagan wisdom is indeed still "modern".

I mean let's say do you consider Paganism a religion or more like a set of traditions and wisdom?
Does Paganism also provide any spiritual guiding to replace the revealed truth of Christianity(truth for those who believe in it of course)?

>was in no small part after we became Christian
don't you find it weird though that the west became great as it is starting from the Renaissance with the rediscovery of Pagan wisdom? how did Christianity(by itself, not through some good deeds of its members like preserving old texts) help with that?

>what we consider Western and European, our greatness, was in no small part after we became Christian

That doesn't mean it was BECAUSE of it though. Considering how Africa and South America are still shit tier despite Christianity while countries like Japan and China have a rich history without Christianity, I'd say it's more likely that civilization is dependant on racial quality + environment, and not religion.

It does, but again depends on the level of commitment you expect of yourself essentially.

I can't express enough that it's entirely up to the practitioner how deep he wants to go down the rabbit hole in a way it's like catholic faith and its several levels of commitment, (confirmation, first communion,etc) with the fundamental exception that your path is unique and you make your own choices free of threat of eternal damnation.

any room for a mithraist?

Jump aboard.

What's it about?

Christianity is literally worshiping a hippie kike cuckbaby.

True. A whole lot of western virtues originate from european paganism.

Even democracy itself is an european pagan invention. e.g. thing

Mithraism, also known as the Mythraic mysteries, was a mystery religion centred around the god Mithras that was practised in the Roman Empire . mithra is the symbol of light and life, the bull is the symbol of darkness and death, by slaying death(you enemy) light will win, its a old persian/roman soldier cult for war

I want to start a Canaanite pagan cult.

We can worship Ba'al, Moloch, and even Kek together m8s.

why does he have a dick on top of his head?

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filthy savages need to go back to tumblr

Referring to yourself as a pagan shows that you are a kike shill. Real "pagans" wouldn't refer to themselves as such.

i guess we can call it a "war hat" since mithra is a war god

No true Scotsman.

Fuck off faggot.

So...do you really believe in The and all that shit? Just curious, since it seems like most pretend to believe just to fit in.

I honestly could never believe in Nordic gods unless there was proof, which there isn't.

>I honestly could never believe in Nordic gods unless there was proof, which there isn't.

Are you a Christian?

>Rome wasn't Catholic
>see:Constantine

better watch it there sweden II

and iam part of the oldest tradition from iran, the modern part is when you pray near fire and a mosaik with mithra on it, the oldest and purest form is when you are on the battlefield attacking and killing your enemy

Well, yes we do. But it is not only about honoring the Gods, but also about honoring our ancestors, descent and kin.

Each has his own ways.

the new tradition was created as a offensive stance against the abraham religion

>see:Constantine
You mean the guy that split the empire that stood there for almost a thousand years in half?

Sounds neat.

So for you guys it is also considered the greatest honor to die on the battlefield?

What does /pagan/ think about spics like me worshiping our ancient gods?

>turn the other cheek

Jesus is coming back with a sword, turn the other cheek is woman shit

a lot has been lost
but a lot is also preserved cross sagas and sagn, not only in the eddas. A lot is also present in modern times, though we just eat instead of bloting in a hov or barn at xmas,midsummer,easter etc.

Lots of traditions was preserved in the hills and remote areas as far as the 16-1700ds.

Reading the sagas in general, they are a intricate web so you will have to read over and over, will give you a lot of their mind set.

I'm ásatru my self, but I am not religious really or practicing. No american hippy projecting christianity and euro values on anything. Àsatru/forn siðr is something completely different. Your black and white, good & evil views does not apply. Nobody is all good, nobdy is all evil. Varg Vikernes seems to be an actual heathen now, he has read a lot. I do not know much about him tbqh, but seen some shit, and I see a true heathen. Not a "hail to the æsir and the vanir blablabla"-american-new-age-hippie-homo tier shit, but actual heathen.

Anyways zzzz...

You worship the gods of your ancestors and keep their tradition and heritage alive.

That's neat.

When has Jesus ever killed someone?

LARPy.

Pagan isn't a religion

Yes you are welcome, paganism is not European specific or centrist its open to everyone.

Tell us more about it user.

by dying Ahriman(the bull) will take your soul, if you dont want to die you must pay mithra with the blood of your enemy,offering blood= protection against death

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The difference between Christianity and pagan religions is the emphasis on the presence of the gods in the world versus having faith God exists even without proof

Only Greek religion has anything resembling a "gods exist, they just don't do anything cool anymore" explanation for why Zeus wasn't down there in Athens in 453 BC fucking chicks.

It is a faith and a way of life.
Many if not most simply call themselves "pagans" if asked for the reason that a lot of people know more or less what is meant.

Look at the christians - they call themselves a word the jewish christian-hunters invented to mock them.

Christ is the ultimate God because he's coming at the end of time to kill all non-believers who will be allied against Christianity and lead by Satan

He didn't kill anyone the first time around because it would have been easy, instead he gave everyone a chance to repent and learn of him before becoming the judge of the dead, meting out justice in the afterlife

Only hippies and women believe Christianity tells you not to defend yourself

And only betamales forsake the God of their forefathers for the faith of distant ancestors whose names you don't even know and whose accomplishments you're not even sure of

European spiritual neo-pagan studying in NZ here.

>having faith God exists even without proof

Paganism is dynamic as seen with the example you yourself bring up. So let's apply the same 'logic' - there, just as valid as Christianity. Sweet, right?

kek
Your sandnigger god isn't your forefathers god. Beta males are the ones afraid to stand alone in their beliefs and challenge established mainstream views when they disagree. Christianity and Islam are cut from the same cloth, both religions of submission that have done overwhelmingly more bad than good.

Why do you guys think that going back to an even older religion is the solution the the flaws of Christianity?
Why not forge a new religion made of your own true meaning, rather than trying to ramshackle a dead one to suit your purpose of uniting whites/nationalism?

The argument that it was the religion our ancestors held before Christianity holds no weight for me, since our ancestors undoubtedly believed something else before they adopted whatever form of paganism you attribute to them. And if your purpose is to honor our ancestors who achieved great things, and made our existence possible, then why not just worship them or worship the same God as the ancestors who accomplished much more impressive feats like conquering the whole world and inventing everything useful ever.

Help explain these things to me, because I know the answer isn't that you guys truly believe in Norse Gods or that Thor really did kill a bunch of Giants with a lightening hammer or whatever.

tl;dr - no, Jesus hasn't killed anyone and your remark about him coming back with a sword was redundant.

>And only betamales forsake the God of their forefathers
I love how this fucking picture is applicable in every thread with Christcucks in it:

lizrd nvr l8 gbh

It's not necessarily about gods, to me they're symbols of very real forces. It's about the spirituality and the mindset of pagan Europeans, that was a healthier worldview than what Christians have now.

ohm...the Old Gods are the Gods or our ancestors

>mfw