Anarchist Communism

Trump is a whore. Neoliberalism is cancer, and the far right is the path of the coward.

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Žižek gives handjobs to rats.

Ancap here. Sup bro.

Trump is a God Emperor and there is no God Emperor but Trump. Neoliberalism is cancer, and the far left is the path of the coward.

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I honestly don't understand how "anarcho-communism" isn't considered an oxymoron.

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>the far right is the path of the coward.

Explain how exactly is it cowardly to go against the media, the school system and sometimes even against the law ?

Oh right, you're just shitposting. *sniffs in your direction*

Man I miss my Mayday celebration in Spain 2011... Those girls can party!

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Property is every bit as immoral as state coercion. Just because the land belongs to an individual doesn't make it more just. Likewise anarchy without communism is just exchanging the chains of the state for the chains of the unmasked plutocracy, but we ancaps don't seem to get that.

>anarchism
>forced to get a job, forced to get a certain health insureance, force to make your kids go to goverment's schools, force to get the same salary for the rest of your life

explain yourselves

It's more like decentralised workers' unions you can join or leave as you please. Those trade unions would provide healthcare and food as long as you did your part and weren't some freeloader (then you were invited to GTFO). You can see some of that stuff going on in the anarchist zones during the Spanish Civil War.

>You can see some of that stuff going on in the anarchist zones during the Spanish Civil War.
Which they still executed problem individuals.

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They did, yes; some would justify it saying it was war, but it's still fucking hypocritical. Still the only anarchist revolution the world has ever seen tho, and this is the moment when I explain to my ancom siblings that the fascists weren't the ones to stop it, but the communists you happily side with because fuck capitalism.

For some reason you seem to think there would be a coercive plutocracy. What power would anybody have over you?

regardless Ancaps include property rights, which goes against communism almost directly.

in the end, how do you expect people to follow communism? or AnCom w/e

The most civilized ideology will always be classical liberalism.

>implying this would work on a national scale
>implying this wouldn't require a complete global attempt
>implying you'll ever reach that point
>implying it'll work even if you go that far
>implying people won't reform states so that they can assert dominance over other states like all of fucking history
>implying complete equality is better than unequality (hint: it isn't)
>implying this movement isn't retarded

In theory, all Marxists have a stateless society as their end goal, even the likes of Stalin and Hoxha. The authoritarian aspect stems from Marx's conceptions of the Dictatorship of the Proletariat under socialism, the stage between capitalism and communism.

Of course, in practice it all falls apart. They love to preach voluntarism but whenever you ask them what would happen to anyone trying to keep private property in their society, they all advocate stopping them by force. The Spanish anarchists attacked the clergy and anyone who tried to use money as a means of exchange.

The reality is equality and liberty are not compatible, since humans are by nature not equal, and thus establishment of equality requires unnatural force. This has been true all the way back to the French Revolution and Robespierre, which is where the origins of communism lie.

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The argument is simple: a company in a state of natual monopoly over a given area (say an island) is indistinguishable from a state. The choice then between indentured servitude (slavery) or death is a joke. I understand this argument is quite shaky and it only seems clear in a damn concrete situation, but you can understand how, for an ancom, this is nothing but feudalism with neon signs and pop music.

Ancoms don't consider ancaps as anarchists, but rather as reactionary feudalists willing to throw the world back to the medieval age. And this can be somewhat accurate considering many European ancaps tend to be hardcore paleolibertarians (we don't have the wild west myth here, you know?).

Ideally you won't need to force the ancom brand of syndicalism into people, since they'll clearly see is the best political system. Of course that's not true, but whatever. That's what ancoms believe.

Anarchist communism is how we lived before civilization.

That's funny, because last time i checked, the far-left killed more people than the capitalists or the far-right has.

Do they seriously not have decongestants where this man is from? Or is anathema to his political beliefs to blow his nose?

>anarchism
>killing more people than the far right

zizek is a fucking meme philosopher. he has legitimate autism too.

Who enforces that the means of production aren't privately owned within each voluntary community?

Goodbye.

Either Tourette or insane amounts of cocaine. Maybe both.

Well why would you stay on an island with a natural monopoly?(monopoly on what, also). Even if its something like freshwater, on a small island, this person who owns this, and abuses his position as a monopoly, will be subject to his neighbors, who would obviously be very angry at his abuse of power and leave, and/or hurt him.

Also, a firm with a natural monopoly means that, the firm took a chance nobody else was willing to make(investing whatever firm he has on this island). Why are they undeserving of reaping benefit of their investment? Even if they were cruel, they would chase their customers away. As well as other businesses(markets, stores, other firms).

What also do you plan to do with nonbelievers? Im just unaware. How would you handle other nationstates that arent ancom

Why would somebody kill potential profit?

>path of the coward
>regulated econ

Because they have other ways of making profits. Why were hundreds of thousands of Latin Americans killed or tortured by capitalist dictatorships? Why did Suharto invade East Timor and kill 1/3 of the population?

>work and get food
>still hungry
>ask for more
>everyone screams about my needs being equal to my abilities
>get bayoneted because I was still hungry

Let's say the company with the natural monopoly happens to be a Walmart-like conglomerate that also owns the ports and airports of the island, only accepting their coupons as valid currency for tickets. Also includes monopoly of violence on the island since, as a big corporation, also owns security firms.

Ancoms also subscribe to the Marxist surplus-value theory. That means all benefits are obtained from exploiting the workers and stealing from their labor, therefore are completely immoral. And similarly to a state-owned company operating in state-sponsored monopoly can afford to mistreat their customers, this hypothetical conglomerate could theorically afford to do the same.

What to do with nonbelievers is one of the main issues with ancom theory. Either they take the means of production by force, or they lead by example and set up anarchist communities (which would still need violence to keep the state away).

Regarding other nationstates I think ancoms and ancaps have the same problem here: how to deal with a hostile state. Ancaps would talk about mercenaries and trade treaties; ancoms would discuss cooperations and worker solidarity. Either way it's all a bit fuzzy.

You, like everyone else, have misunderstood the words of Martin Luther King. All men are CREATED equal. The key word is CREATED. What happens after we are created has nothing to do with being equal.

>Semantics

Reminder that you leftists cunts have wrecked South America, and my country is about to kick our commie president out.