Anarcho-Capitalism

Convince me why or why not I should be an Anarcho-Capitalist.

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Not an argument.

It just makes sense. NAP as a base, everything else falls into place.

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It's not a matter of convincing but of educating yourself.

Ancap revolves essentially around economics, how well read are you into those?

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Not an argument.

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kek

No. It's about morality and principles

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more pls

lame strawman.

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I think I'm out.

Statism:
> People are bad.
> We need a government made up of people.

I'm not a 15 year old shitposter who just read his first Rand novel, perhaps OP should try this as well.

We already have anarchy at the international level. There is no world government, therefore world anarchy + international law.

DELETE THIS

>when you ask an ancap to rationalize private property

All with the exception of Ayn Rand are based jews.

I know it's bait, but fuck it.

In case you didn't know Rothbard made a case in defense of fascists and nationalists in Europe, the man was not an autistic spas like allot of deus vult and storm fag idiots around here and understood quite well that sometimes freedumbs need take a backseat while more urgent matters are dealt with, namely defeating leftism.

Hmm? Those two things aren't mutually exclusive.

The State is not about stopping crime.
Guess what the State is about?

Anarcho-Capitalism

> People are bad.
> LOL we don't need laws because people wouldn't turn into murders and thieves over night with out the government.

PICK ONE

Legality != Morality

Please everyone read the most important book of our time, Larken Rose's magnum opus, The Most Dangerous Superstition:

mensenrechten.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/the-most-dangerous-superstition-larken-rose-20111.pdf

Larken Rose sucks. He has no original thoughts and the philosophical political depth of a dried up puddle.

Lol please.

This theory completely denies the fact that the only reason many many people don't commit crimes is because they don't want to spend 25 - life behind bars.

>implying ancaps are against laws

If you can't trust people with freedom, how can you trust them with power?

Bullshit I guarantee you've never read him.

removing delusional people like you from the gene pool so I can live in peace

The biggest deterrent to all crimes (by single thugs, mafias, and rogue states) is an armed populace.

Nope. Allowing Supercriminals like politicians to get away with their crimes.

I imagine when a criminal Hillary is elected Supreme Leader, a large percentage of this board will see the futility of politics and become anarchists themselves.

The problem with anarcho-capitalism is that you're going to get a government, whether you want it or not. You may end up calling the leaders of the government warlords or something of the sort, but there will be power structures that arise.

As much as I hate governments, I recognize that it is better to try to create a government that is as benign as possible instead of eschewing government all together. Power vacuums must be filled.

Then your not a ancap
You can? You just stop them (or punish them) if they commit a crime.

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No such thing as a "power vacuum" nonsense.

There is no world-government. We already have international anarchy. Just bring that down to the individual level.

Political Authority is a total religious superstition. It needs to be outgrown.

And how do we know that people won't start shooting their neighbors for not brushing their teeth in the morning?

Who holds those people accountable?

We elect those politicians.

I'm referring to your image.

m-making money?

Do you? Or do you just think you do?

Major elections are rigged bro. That is redpill 101.

It's yet another autistic Jewish intellectual cult that adheres to absolute a priori unbending logical principles with no empiricism involved which lead to absurd conclusions that need to be rationalized away. What's funny is that Rothbard, the king liberjew himself, abandoned the movement later in life as a mistake and started going fash once he saw his vision splinter into left libertarian faggots (C4SS) and beltway corporate shills. Ron Paul its last dying breath.

Anarcho Capitalism is unachievable at this point without lots and lots of deaths.

Libertarianism has been bastardized by the corporatists..

Idk what to think user.

Yes, but only for the private owners of central banks. 100% of your income tax goes to pay interest on the national debt to private bankers.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Grace_Commission

This was also confirmed by whistleblower/insider Aaron Russo.

youtube.com/watch?v=YGAaPjqdbgQ

The state is just a giant racket to generate money for Private Central Banks.

this is the best one

anarcho capitalism=feudalism

I love how Rothbard supported David Duke

>>>/autism/

>Rothbard not an autistic spaz
>absolute unbending a priori "non-aggression principle"
>"if ancap led to disaster I would still press the red button to destroy the state anyway because liberty and stuff"
That guy was the most autistic political thinker in history. Worse than Rand by a country mile.

>Libertarianism has been bastardized by the corporatists..

WHY DO PEOPLE KEEP SAYING THIS NONSENSE!?

What corporations are funding Libertarianism????

I don't remember Ron Paul's record breaking fundraising in 2008 ever having even one corporate donor.

If Libertarianism (True Free Markets) are so good for Mega Corps: WHY DOESN'T GOLDMAN SACHS FUND RON PAUL INSTEAD OF LEFTIST HILLARY???

Damn this fallacy is getting old.

Any career criminal is practically an anrcho-capitalist.

It's liberty gone insane (hence the anarchy element in name).

A true man has restraint on his selfish urges and does what an alpa should and lead his pack. An anarchist aka outsider has no pack.

Guess what? Not an argument.

Because monied interests have huge influence in the government this is more profitable to them than the free market. Ancap doesn't have an equivalent solution for bribery of the DROs.

reason.com/blog/2011/07/20/being-libertarian-may-cause-au

>YOU MUST OBEY THE NAP
>why?
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>WHY DOESN'T GOLDMAN SACHS FUND RON PAUL INSTEAD OF LEFTIST HILLARY???

Because Goldman Sachs didn't get rich wasting their money.

Because America is a two party system.

That's amazing

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If there is no authority, what is there to bribe?

If free markets are good for megacorporations, why do they back the party most opposed to free markets?
(In this case, Goldman supporting Hillary)

>Ron Paul
>Anarcho-capitalist
Epic memes.

My problem with libertarianism is that if you lock two of them in a room and make them talk, they will undoubtedly disavow each other. So much disavowing occurred that that the most contrarian formed Anarcho-Capitalism.

That being said, I agree with most of it.

based Stirner

>Libertarianism is anarcho-capitalism
This meme needs to fucking die. An-caps need to stop soiling our name.

The people with the most money would have a huge influence over the DROs. Mafia rule or feudalism would be inevitable.

It's just a matter of degree and they're part of the same intellectual trend.

The philosophy of Libertarianism was founded by an AnCap (Rothbard).

The Libertarian Party was founded by an AnCap (Rothbard).

It's Statists that have to stop Culturally Appropriating the word "Libertarian".

"Hey, I'll give you guys protection for a lesser portion of your salary".

I disagree. In my experience most ancaps who focus on morality and principles end up going ancom because of the issue with property and who should be its proper owner. You either adopt a consequentialist POV here or defending ancapism becomes almost impossible (ie. "My great-great-grandpa took these lands from the indians, are they morally mine?").

Ancapism can happen in any moment senpai. Some may argue ancapism is the default global system since states don't have an überstate (except the EU). There is some interesting shit going on with free/smart cities and seasteading, so I wouldn't lose hope.

Do you support me being shot?

Actually, I do.

I didn't try to imply that. I implied that AC started (or got popular) because edgy libertarians can't stop disagreeing with each other.

As if the Superclass does not already buy off politicians and judges?!

Government is the worst mass murderer in history, and you fear a world without it...

Embracing nationalism is the only real way you can disassociate with them. If you accept an ethnicity or race as the basis for social organization (or a layer along with family, etc.) then you escape the logical trap of libertarian ethics and hyperindividualism that leads to ancap.

I'd shoot you for a dollar.

remove this you fuck

>US in a nearly total free market during the industrial revolution
>Poverty drops 1% every year
>Government decides to "Fix" the poverty problem
>Poverty continues
>Clearly this is the fault of the free market

Why would these people not just pay someone else for protection?

Are you a massive fucking faggot?

Yes: Anarcho-Capitlism
No: You're fine.

Gulag then shooting.

Very soon were going to hit the singularity and none of this discorse will matter.

RARE
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Did you know that if you stop spanking your children and legalize heroin you'll be living in a free market paradise with Star Trek level tech within your lifetime?

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>feudalism

This would be the inevitable step one. Walled feudal cities where you have to obey the "TOS" of the ruling classes family in order to keep protection within the safety of the community, on threat of banishment.

There would also be implicit rules like

>oh if you kill someone or steal our shit we can't let you run away we will kill you cause we don't want to incentivise murder and theft from defectors

>oh by the way since you will undoubtedly want to have children and families within the safety of the community they will have to have you enter the social covenant on their behalf since they are too young to consent, but since we are spending resources protecting and caring for them they can't just leave when they come of age because they need to contribute first and pay an exit """"fee""""

Let that brew for a couple centuries and you end up right back to where we are currently. Ancaps and libertarians are living in a dreamworld same a communists.

youtube.com/watch?v=QCozh_vbYdM

sovereign citizen detected

>people are willing to pay taxes and support police officers so clearly if you make the system voluntary everyone will chose completely chaos over security.

Legalize degeneracy? No please.

>willing to pay taxes
>implying the government won't skewer you for dodging out on them.

b-buh those she-sheeple are just being held hostage and have gubbamint stockhold syndrome. we just need to get them woke and everyone will want to live in a glorious ancap society.

never mind that no one takes us seriously and our movements are always dead in the water no matter how many decades or new iterations role by. Never mind that all the modern civilizations of the world independently evolving from the same natural anarchy has a current ancap government as a beacon for other nations. DONT BULLY US YOU FUCKING STATISTS IS ALL YOUR FAULT THAT OUR IDEOLOGY CAN'T COMPETE IN A FREE MARKET OF IDEAS

>Legalize heroin
>Remove welfare state
>everyone who uses heroin dies because their life is no longer funded by hard working people
>only the people smart enough to no use heroin are left

I see no problems

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>what is renouncing your citizenship and getting the fuck out
>what is a minor exit tax which doesn't apply to poor basement dwellers in the first place

You faggots never put your money where you mouth is. If your ideas are so fucking great you could easily create a voluntary covenant where you pool donations to settle in some fuck-all island that is for the most part self-sustaining or even some chunk of land in your choice of failed african state. You can hire your private guards or militia or whatever the fuck you want and enter the free "market" of nations to fail or succeed on the merits of your ideology.

but no, just keep shitposting in your comfy first-world society

this is amazing

fucking idiot, the point isn't that problems will be solved by turning everything into to a complete lawless wasteland, the point is that by subjecting those who provide security to the same free market principles as everyone else will provide the best security possible.

>Slavery is common all around the world, and movements to abolish it never really pan out so we should just let slavery be a thing for the rest of time.

Ill move to Somalia, when Statists move to North Korea.

I guess it's an election year, and all the Fascists crawled out of the woodwork. When Hillary is anointed by her megacorps, maybe they will see how idiotic the political system is.

>trying to use slavery as objectively immorality
>ignoring the fact we don't have slaves currently
>behaving as if this argument would have worked if we were debating slavery in the historical context

barely a step above calling me a nazi you inverted SJW. If ancap ACTUALLY existed in some form or another in a meaningful sense rather than being some arm-chair philosophy spewed ironically by first world white children.

For fucks sake communism has a better track record than ancap, because at least communist states lasted decades before imploding.

Because government keeps people from being animals

>Why don't you just sever all connections with everyone around and gather libertarians from around the world and centralize all your material wealth and purchase a large landmass from a country and create an entire country from scratch.
>it's easy

yeah I can't image why someone would rather try and better an existing sytem

What's wrong with slavery?

great rebuttal faggots, except for the part where we are happy living in the dreaded "state" we already exist in. You faggots are the ones bringing kike-lead revolution to the table and trying to convince us to destroy the concept of a nation-state for your fucking experiment.

yeah that whole thing really turned out great for russia, but hey! At least the Bolsheviks had a similar zinger when the peasants told them to move to France if they wanted a republic!