ITT: We post movies that liberals will never EVER understand

ITT: We post movies that liberals will never EVER understand.

From a graphic design point of view that is such a based poster.

Based Mel needs to make another period piece

He already has, a WWII movie. I forget the title but I think they're already done shooting it

I don't get it. Why wouldn't a liberal understand this? It's about a descent into madness. Maybe you didn't understand it?

Hacksaw Ridge. It looks pretty bad tbqh

a conservative is less likely to understand this one

>it ain't me starts playing

Oh shit, I didn't realize the trailer was already out.

...but yeah, it looks corny. I cannot take Andrew Garfield seriously. Battle scenes look good though

This is a libcuck movie, it even has shinto stuff.

It's corny, but it damn does it bring some feels.

there's nothing conservative about this

I'm still gonna see it for sure. It seems like the advertisers just cut an "Oscar Bait" trailer. From what I've seen, early reviews seem to be very positive

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>post a movie that is extremely liberal

You didn't watch it did you?

OH SNAP! DID I JUST REDPILL YOU?

End of Evangelion

>Joseph Conrad
>liberal

>Joseph Conrad
>reduced to American "politics"

Apocalypse now has so many layers of depth that I interpret it differently every time I watch it, I almost worry that if I was to watch it enough times I'd end up like that character in your pic.

If you didn't watch the redux version you haven't seen it frankly. If you left that film thinking that Kurtz was just a wack job you didn't get it.

I wouldn't call it liberal as the message I took from it doesn't value human life in the slightest, not even children's.

there's a lot of work between the concepts of civilization and barbarism going on and how to tell if you've become a savage in a war, even if you're just pretending to scare the shit out of your enemy

Civilization is just organised and concentrated barbarism.

Liberals will never understand that you should always pick the lesser of two weevils.

Liberals are sheltered nu-male cucks.

fuck off with that capeshit snyder

Do you meme?

you will

Berzerker when

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>American politics
>American """liberalism"""
>Americans

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Are conservatives just accidentally retarded or what?

Tropa de Elite should have been first post.

>fedora fags hate it for Jesus imagery
>hippies hate it for Superman killing Zod (if you kill your enemies they win)
>nostalgia chick hates it because it shows the military in a positive light
>Anita Sarkesian thinks Zack Snyder is a sexist
I think you are on to something user...

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>liberals - the ones who protested the war - wouldn't get an anti-Vietnam War film

>liberals

You're using that word but you don't understand what it means.

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Really? Conservatives hated first blood when it came out. It's the 'Rambo' franchise and its sequels they're enamoured with.

AN is like the most liberal war movie ever. What the fuck are you even talking about?

it shows that governments go fucking crazy and become evil entities

>Hacksaw Ridge
Just saw the trailer. Holy shit, why don't you just give away literally all the fucking plot. What the fuck Mel

>We post movies that liberals will never EVER understand.
>posting a pic of fuckin' Apocalypse Now as opposed to some trash like American Sniper or 13 Hours

Get the fuck outta here, Trumptard. I'm a liberal (not some misguided SJW goof but a real liberal) and Apocalypse Now is one of my all-time favorite movies.

>movie is staunchly anti-war and about the way war corrupts man
>right wing

You're the audience in Jarhead cheering and screaming during the helicopter attack, aren't you?

every day until you like it

Orwell was fucking socialist, I think he understood it pretty well.

>itt: movies conservatives will never understand

IMO only this and the one from 2008 are the only legitimately good Rambo movies.

Both "First Blood Part 2" and "Rambo III" are fuckin' jingoistic trash that completely missed the point First Blood was trying to make.

I have no fucking idea how you can make a film out of that book

I'm liberal and like every film posted ITT, except MOS.

Joseph Conrad was a nationalist that despised social democrats and said they sought to dissolve national identity into a melting pot.

The screen writer (John Milius) is famous for being ostracized from Hollywood because of how rightwing he is.

>Apocalypto
>Orwell

what?


Anyway, Orwell's support of democratic socialism is not comparable to what democratic socialism is today.

Just because some people involved are conservative doesn't necessarily mean a movie is inherently conservative...or liberal on the flipside.

Some very liberal folk was involved in the creation of Robocop and it has a lot of left-wing ideologies, yet it was criticized by some on the left for being "fascist".

Same can be said for Apocalypse Now. Although Milius is a flaming conservative and the original story was written by Joseph Conrad, it can be said that it was ultimately Francis Ford Coppla that gave the film a liberal slant.

What? Orwell was far more leftist in his convictions as a socialist than today's milquetoast 'socialist'.

Isn't it super weird that Orwell and Vonnegut are amongst the best anti-socialist writers but then remained stead fast socialists until death?

"Capitalism leads to dole queues, the scramble for markets, and war. Collectivism leads to concentration camps, leader worship, and war. There is no way out of this unless a planned economy can somehow be combined with the freedom of the intellect, which can only happen if the concept of right and wrong is restored to politics."

-Orwell

I don't get it

How could he be so blind to his own thoughts?

>anti-socialist
Only because retards either purposefully misinterpreted their work or let themselves be told what those authors 'really meant' by water filter salesmen.

read that second quote

he knew socialism ultimately led to despotism

in that quote is he basically a supporter of fascism, yet its another irony of Orwell that he went to Spain specifically to fight fascists. He was amazingly contradictory in his beliefs.

He's just a socialist moralist, much like Leo Tolstoy sans Christianity to call him a fascist is dishonest at best and blatantly false at worst. For some reason many people on the right feel this need to claim Orwell as one of their one, from libertarians to fascists when he was in essence an unabashed socialist. Plus to decry leader worship and party worship is the anti thesis of fascism.

>some trash like American Sniper or 13 Hours

wew lad, why do liberals not understand Baykino?

>He was amazingly contradictory in his beliefs.

I'm not really seeing the contradiction. He recognizes that ALL systems are corruptible. The question of whether a political system will be "good" or "bad" is largely a question of whether or not the people in charge have any sense of morality or responsibility.

There have been good fascists and bad fascists, good Communists and bad Communists, good capitalists and bad capitalists. It all comes down to that pesky matter of human free will.

>mfw the criminal loving hordes of my country prefer City of God over Elite Squad

Fuck those liberals.

If you read 1984 and aren't pro INGSOC you missed the point.

"The real division is not between conservatives and revolutionaries but between authoritarians and libertarians."

----George Orwell
still says nothing about the obvious contradictions in his beliefs

self proclaimed socialist that knew socialism led to hell

I guess he believed that capitalism led to hell faster

Shut up you stupid flick watching monkey.

ebin lol XD

>this is what nu-males actually think

No he was just very anti totalitarian. You can quote mine all you want but if you've read his essays he makes it pretty clear that his loyalties are to socialism.

if he recognized this then he would have not been a socialist

he recognized that governments led to authoritarian nightmaresm he understood the relationship between human nature and power, but he did not understand economics, which led him to support the very thing he wrote about as being the horrible future of the human race

i remember talking to a friend of mine about FMJ and he was certain it was a republican war film and I was like what the fuck

apoc now and fmj are peak left

I'm liberal as fuck and it's one of my favorite movies. Acknowledging that savagery lies at the heart of man and that culture is what elevates us is at the heart of true enlightenment thinking which has been the basis for all liberal progress.

Please look up anti-stalinist left when you have the time.

You sound upset that Orwell was a socialist and keep trying to paint him as pro capitalist for some reason. I mean he plainly states why he believes in socialism as superior constantly in "down and out in Paris and London".

There's this weird paradoxical thinking where people get very excited at graphic war violence, and at the same time excited at depictions of how it negatively affects the men in it. Like the loss of life and destruction of identity and society at the end of both films is something to look up to, because it comes from being a soldier and that's unequivocally a good thing in their eyes.

I think Reddit is more to your liking :)

>anti-stalinist left

Trotskyism right?

Not sure I get the point you're attempting to convey?

In it sounds like he's advocating for a system more like what we're seeing today in Canada and many parts of the European Union - a capitalist economy with ample social(int) services provided by the government.

He's talking about the extremes and downfalls of Communist governments, but Communism isn't the only form of socialism.

For what it's worth, I agree with you that socialism is unsustainable, and we're starting to see the proof, right now, around the world. But I don't think Orwell's statements are necessarily contradictory

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1984 much like animal farm was an anti-Soviet/ Stalinist book. Not an anti-socialist one.

well you need start with the screenplay

Ironically growing up in England, I never viewed it as Anti-Soviet. The chapter in which Winston is reading the book between the pages which stands out as a book within the book made perfect sense too me.

The plebs need protecting from their own naive nature and deserve to suffer for it.

Untrue, he favoured the anarcho syndicalist communes of Spain. Like stated before he was a lot more serious in his socialist convictions then people under that label now. He wanted to see capitalism wholly phased out.

Calling it anti soviet or anti stalinist is far too narrow of a description.

It did not critique a type of government or political policy, rather it showed the practices and qualities that inhabited, lead to, and supported a totalitarian society.

It's not about what that society called itself but rather the mechanisms of how they suppressed the population and remained in power.

But Tropa de Elite is a harsh critique on Brazilian military police.

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