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why is all the bait shitty?

82 gorillian deaths made your communism.

nop

Is this what is referred to as "labor theory of value"? I don't into economics.

That's it, I'm a #Chu-Chu-Train from now on.

No, labor put the physical pieces of the phone together, and were compensated for their efforts.

"Labor" did not pay for the research and development, the cost of the factory, the equipment, or the raw materials. I can't wait until blue collar scum are replaced by machines.

"The -isms just determine who gets paid"

No. Your boss determines who gets paid. Your bosses look over people under any -ism. The -isms just determine whether your boss is independent or government-owned.

>what is capital
okay lad

I suppose he has an explanation why the Soviet Union, with its abundance of labor and natural resources, plus enough technical know-how to put the first man into space, fucked up so colossally that it existed in a state of total poverty and then collapsed?

>The iPhone TOTALLY would have emerged under communism, goy- I mean guys! And I'm not talking about that Stalinist communism, I'm talking about MY special blend of communism which has never been tried before!

Welp, that's it. I am now officially a bern victim.

I don't understand. Is he saying he's alright with sweatshop labour making his iPhone? Seems to me like he should be against Apple and consumer culture if he hates capitalism so much.

>LABOR
>guy who is only known for winning on a game show

True, without random Chinaman #348,500,129 who screws together your iPhone, it could not possibly exist! That random Chinaman can not be replaced.

The guy who thought up the iPhone, who cares, iPhones could still be built if nobody thought of one

>Labor made your iPhone
Correct
>Labor makes things under any -ism
Correct
>The -isms just determine who gets paid.
Wrong. The -ism determines how instruments of labor and subjects of labor are managed.

no the capitalism determines the QUALITY of the product. without a market demand to make something better it stays shit, thats why cubans all had to learn how to make their own sattelite dishes out of fucking TV trays you stupid overpriveleged unnapreciative cunt

Capitalism did make your phone, competitive industry is why it has a computer in it and a bunch of things that would increase consumerism of said product which in turn would increase revenue for further product evolution as well as greed for more money which mean you better make something good that the people like.
Cause if you don't, no funding, no evolution.

Dumb fuck motherfuckers.

No, the capital investment in machinery made the iPhone.

I'll bite.
No it was capitalism that made the iPhone.
It was capitalism that gave Steve Jobs the incentive to start his business, it was the free market under capitalism that forced Apple to innovate if it wanted to stay competitive. It was capitalistic tendencies that made the iPhone globally available for teenage shitheads who think communism and Socialism works to buy with their dad chequebook.
So yeah, it was capitalism.

>Arthur Chu

Wouldn't sweat shop labor be a result of capitalism though? Outsourcing labor to countries with less wage and safety/ health regulations?

I'm sure though with communism labor conditions would be the same if not worse however

where would we be if we had used socialism, communism, faggotism as our government?

the only people with "iphones" would be the kikes.

>Total Faggot
Has he died of ass cancer yet, or was that just a scam to get more pity donations?

How does one get the Apple iPhone without capitalism?

>implying the The Democratic Peoples' Republic would let you use anything but their phone brand that sends keylogs straight to the gubmints

No, no, it's true! iPhones are made in China because the quality of labor there is so much better! It's why I'm sure he's DYING for a chance to visit pic related! Highest quality of life in the world!

>"Modern medicine helped this guy get healthy again"
>"MEDICINE IS JUST A FIELD OF STUDY, IT IS NOT AN ACTUAL PHYSICAL THING THAT TREATS PEOPLE. SHOULDN'T YOU RATHER SAY THE INGREDIENTS OF THE DRUG CURED THE DISEASE? WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH MEDICINE?"

Obviously capitalism is not a physical being that creates things for you. It's a concept, under which the IPhone is produced. You take the system of capitalism away, you take Steve Jobs incentive to create that phone away. Just as you wouldn't have modern drugs if the system of pharmaceutical science didn't exist

I don't have an iphone you stupid chink

>I can't wait till millions of white people are displaced from their jobs so some filthy disgusting Jews prosper

Honestly. Capitalist """nationalists""" need to be shot right in the fucking face. They are disgrace to nationalism.

Still alive. Still elitist.

>implying the iPhone designs were made by a laborer
>implying the factories just pieced themselves together for the laborers to work in
>implying the marketing and packaging just threw itself out there

>retweeted & favorites
fuck off commie

I don't have an iPhone

Shut up and go back to making my Galaxy S, chink

Yes, I'm sure those poor rural Chinese would have had the capital, the engineering skill, business know-how, etc. to design, manufacture, market, distribute, and sell those iPhones worldwide without those evil capitalists stealing the fruits of their labor.

Labor didn't make any phones, because the phone components are too tiny to be put together by some laborer pleb. It was made by robots.
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Don't forget how they were all so happy starving to death before those evil capitalists came in and gave them education, income and modern goods! Oh, man, capitalism really fucked them up!

what?

But Capitalism is the system that created impetus for someone to design and organize the manufacturing of the iPhone.

We'd still be using flipphones if some utilitarian socialist was in charge that says you dont need anything extraneous or decadent...and iPhones ARE decadent.
As far as communication is concerned, all you need is a blackberry

liberalism is about fitting words together to be clever and prove a wide point with narrow evidence!

Are we going to give robots ownership of the means of production one day? Are the Marxists going to be the ones to hand the human race over to the machines because they will do all the work, and should own the surplus?

maybe AI is seen as extraneous

If you had 10 people in a warehouse with a table and scrap metal, what exactly are they going to make?

Nothing. That's why there are people who take risks by investing time and money into making a product. They have the idea, come up with a design with a team, pump money into research and resources, get the necessary parts, hire people to put these parts together and they are making money. Lo and behold another person comes along and says, "Hey, I can make the same product but better, and cheaper!" And so on and so forth. That's how we went from a brick phone to tiny little thin screens we can carry in our pockets.

Capitalism breeds a competitive, innovative market.

See, it pisses me off because that's all it is now but it used to mean being open-minded but being smart at the same time...Not just the open-minded part.

When something stops working, you stop doing it.

Nu-Daily show actually had a whole bit about how the far-left wont question Sanders at all (or Clinton, to be fair)

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