Memes and capeshitposting aside, is this actually a good movie?

Memes and capeshitposting aside, is this actually a good movie?

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It's pretty good. Better than any other capeshit

It has a couple of nice set pieces and the Joker is as good as they say, but it's also kind of overstuffed and pretentious. 7/10.

edgiest capeshit ever created

Begins > TDK

It's generally regarded as one of the best super hero movies of all time

No

Reminder that (((Christopher Nolan))) is a NSA shill and TDK is pro surveillance state propaganda.

>Batman spies on everyone through their cell phones
>Gordon lies to the public and hides the truth about Dent
>but it's all for "the greater good"

...

It has the hallmarks of all Christopher Nolan films.

>bland, gray, colorless cinematography
>story pretends to be deep and hits you over the head with its message
>poorly written dialogue
>melodramatic in every scene
>uninteresting score
>badly filmed action scenes
>held up solely by decent acting

>literally all of this
Is wrong

Why

Great argument. You sure proved me wrong.

Cunt.

It's not really a movie, it's an experience.

Do you always need others to make your opinions for you, you son of a bitch?

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>ahahahaha ho eheh aha ha ho hi haa ha haa
What did he mean by this?

kill yourself

>bland, gray, colorless cinematography
True

>story pretends to be deep and hits you over the head with its message
Not really

>poorly written dialogue
Somewhat agree

>melodramatic in every scene
Nah

>uninteresting score
Nah

>badly filmed action scenes
Indeed

>held up solely by decent acting
Held up by Ledger's great performance

You didn't really make any arguments yourself

Soo..

Was this scene kino?

3/4 of it is great. Amazing practical effects, best bat suit, one of the best action sequnces ever filmed and an incredible preformance by Ledger. But.... Two face is damn hard to watch. Overacting, wenging, any of those victims should of been able to put him down, he was half dead for christ sake. Nolan paints in broad strokes but fucks up fine detail with shitty, over complicated plots that are logically flawed. He does this in all his films. I usually fast forward through Two faces shit scenes.
>inb4 too deep for u
I get what Nolan was doing with Twoface showing how even the best of us can be corrupted but it so damn heavy handed and fedora tipping. I resent it for ruining what whould have been a solid film.

>Poorly written dialogue
>melodramatic in every scene
>badly filmed action scenes

Holy shit, this is why Baneposting survived longer than any other meme.

We will never get a better joker.

Pseudointellectual and kind of boring.

Joker was okay.

The best comic book film of all time, as well as one of the best films ever made.

Best capeshit.

This

That's not Spider Man 2

Thanks for sharing your opinion, reddit.

A really great movie with a tremendous 2nd act. Really kind of fell apart at the end; Nolan didn't know how to take out the Joker, and it shows. The prisoners dilemma was kinda cool but the end fight was dumb and the whole Dent and survalence thing was too heavy handed.

It is good, great even, but it is no TDKR

Capeshit isn't good. Nolan made this a superhero without the superhero and that makes people think it's good

The whole bat sonar sequence was pretty lame

Not as bad as some of the capeshit we've seen. Iron Man 2s "Congratulations sir, you've created a new element" is one of the stupidest things in the entire MCU.

He didn't take out the joker because TDKR was originally supposed to open with the Joker on trial. Instead we got the big guy for you and the shittiest movie of the trilogy

Is this true or can anyone refute this

didn't he destroy that shit in the end ?

It is a comic book movie

Somehow Hulk being made via gamma rays is okay

Who fucking cares, fag? Do you use the captcha on Sup Forums? Do you use gmail? An android or iPhone? Windows? MacOS? Chrome? It's impossible to be completely hidden now. Might as well and embrace it

>a superhero without the superhero
1-1=0
>so people think it's good
fo real!?

It's a decent movie but that's it. Even though there are some comic movies that are actually good like V for Vendetta, Watchmen or Sin City, TDK is not one of them.

It is a decent piece of entertainment no doubt about it and it's certainly better than a lot of this super hero flicks on the Marvel vs DC shitwars but other than that is not the best comic movie, it's not the best Nolan movie, it's not the best Heath Ledger nor Christian Bale movie either.
The depiction of Gotham is inferior to Burton's but superior to Schumacher circus so let's say average at best.
There are no memorable characters, the plot is average, no particularly memorable score nor quotes either.

While it's probably the best Batman adapted to live action yet there are animated Batman movies that could easily kick it's ass so it's not even the best at that.

>Do you use the captcha on Sup Forums?

Sorry I'm probably retarded but how is the captcha an invasion of privacy? I'm scared now.

Did you miss the part where it gets shut down in the end?

Did you stop marathoning the movie halfway through?

>Sin city is good
>no memorable characters
Fuck off

He still shouldn't have used it in the first place and you're ignoring the other point about Gordon lying to the public and rationalizing it as "for the greater good."

characters of sin city are far more fucking memorable than this shite

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ant fucking nigger who doesn't realise the distinct characters and plotline for each one is a nufag weeb only looking for Oh-sad-man-me-so-dark. Fuck off back to cuckland, and stop pinning of Rachael you sad sack rich boy. Hang out with the real fucking characters, with true cinema and style

>buzzwords
Nice argument fag.

It's a 5/10 film sandwiched between two 4/10s.

>Held up by Ledger's great performance
Ledger was mediocre.

If you like nolan its excellent.

Its not really true to the source at all... but it makes for a great movie.

But Sin City (1) is good. It has a distinct art style that resembles the source material more than any other comic adaptation, it's narrative is memorable, it's characters are memorable.
The City depicts Gotham better than most Batman movies.

If anything is far more memorable than any of movie on the Nolan's trilogy.

lmao this board is terrible
fags like u ruin it

It's alright. Heath Ledger is definitely the outstanding piece of the movie. He squeezes the most out of the so edgy it's cringeworthy dialogue he was given. In hindsight a lot of his dialogue in particular sounds like fanfiction written by an edgy 16 year old.

along with spiderman 2, it's the best capeshit

Ledger overacted and was unintentionally hilarious, just like everyone else from the Nolan trilogy. The series didn't get bad or unintentionally hilarious with Dark Knight Rises and Bane, it was bad and unintentionally hilarious from the first movie due to Bale's comically shit Batman voice being completely incompatible with the dark, gritty world Nolan was trying to portray. The other characters being silly caricatures further eroded the believability of Nolan's Gotham.

Ledger delivered an otherwise forgettable performance as the Joker but his performance gets propped up because he died.

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Quality argument, as expected from Sup Forums.

Nah, Ledger was good. It was a good joker for the world Nolan created. The problem is that the concept of Gotham as a normal city inserted on the real world is still born and dooms all endeavors.

Sometimes I wonder what it would be like had he not died. Just imagine how differently people would think of that movie and his performance. Just imagine.

Ledger made the film in my opinion. All the other performances were bland and forgettable. Out of the three films, this is my favourite. I don't enjoy the other two because there is nothing memorable about them. All that aside though, The Dark Knight is well worth watching, even if it is just for the Joker

Dude, I'm just saying that the "The only reason why people liked Ledger is because he died" is a meme. His performance was great, not outstanding, not ridiculously good, but definitely not forgettable. It got overhyped by his death of course but it was a great performance nonetheless. No need to be an edgy teen and disagree with anything the public says or thinks.

This film goes back to a time before "capeshit" was a word.

From score, cinematography, pacing, performances, editing, and gravitas - in no way is it lacking.

yes

the stuff that made memes is actually really clever in context. not worth repeating into oblivion but it's a well built movie

sucks that gotham was turned into basically just bland New York tho

it's the ONLY good superhero movie

Let's spend 20 minutes on a pointless, nonsensical bullet reconstruction subplot.

DUDE REDDIT LMAO

I love Ledger in the film. I really don't get the hate he gets, for me he he was absolutely great. Batman is always about the villains and his take on Joker was interesting

Not for nothing, but Pokemon Go is basically that machine that Fox rigs up at the end of TDK to catch the Joker.

Oh and Wayne Manor is the same mansion as the orgy scene in Eyes Wide Shut. And when the Joker kills Gamble, the floor in that pool room is black and white tiles, which is a huge feature of masonic rituals. Not to mention the Joker "rising from the dead" off of the pool table. In many initiation rites of occult secret societies, the initiate goes through a fake death scenario, where they lay in a coffin and rise a new, their "ego" having died, so to speak.

And then there's all the shit about Batman fighting to keep the people of Babylon, errr...Gotham, enslaved to the globalist systems. All the "villians" are essentially the good guys, so to speak, trying to either break the system or wake up the good people of Gotham.

The Dent Act is some fraudulent highly illegal Patriot Act type deal that probably allows for some crazy RICO Statues type bullshit.

this

i liked batman begins more

>There are no memorable characters
>no particularly memorable score
>nor quotes either

you're fucking joking, right?

Batman should be edgy

People on Sup Forums have terrible opinions.

If you think TDK is shit you need to kill yourself right away.

Probably the best capeshit will ever get.

Good performance by Heath Ledger. Good cinematography but that was only because he was trying to ape Heat.

It was interesting to see the thematic battle between joker and batman and I also enjoyed how it had a lot of cop procedural style to it rather than saving the world like every capeshit movie is today.

Having said that, it really falls apart at the end and a lot of the dialogue is atrocious.

>Ledger overacted and was unintentionally hilarious

just like your post user

should have saved harvey dent/twoface storyline for the next film, film was probably 3o minutes too long.

otherwise a classic performance by heath ledger

maggiet gyllenhall is ugly and uninteresting, weakest part of the film imo

>along with spiderman 2, it's the best capeshit
I knew Sup Forums had shit taste, but even this is pushing it.

Saw it again in last December to see if it holds up. I was afraid it was one of those movies I liked back then but on a second viewing it becomes worse.

Well, it's fucking great. It holds up. It is indeed a great movie and it was actually better than I remembered 'cause now I could get more into Batman in that movie while back in '08 I was more focused on everything else going on and felt like Batman was just there.

Also Bane represented communism, and they portrayed it as something wrong.

lel

We are the 99% was big at the time

Nolan has this strange talent of extracting quality performances from his actors and making some really memorable scenes. It's a shame his movies are all trash.

Better than all of that marvel and DCU shit combined. It's kino of kino.