>If you walk into any house show in America with a handful of rocks, by the second or third throw you’ll have hit a boy with a Bandcamp that sounds exactly like them. It is unbelievable that such a storied indie-label would see in them a band deserving of their marketing budget & late night talk show connections.
>Much like his music & lyrics, Toledo’s public persona exists in between dull platitudes and esoteric name-dropping. This consistent lack of personality might actually be the most sincere thing about him & his band.
>If you walk into any house show in America with a handful of rocks, by the second or third throw you’ll have hit a boy with a Bandcamp that sounds exactly like them. the other stuff he wrote is accurate but this perfectly applied to teen suicide and all of those bandcamp bands from the early 10s lmao
Aiden Sanders
teen suicide are more bland than CSH tho
Brandon Hughes
>the other stuff he wrote is accurate but this perfectly applied to teen suicide and all of those bandcamp bands from the early 10s you realize he KNOWS THIS. but those guys never got signed. which is why hes ASKING why did csh get signed in the first place
Easton Hall
why did teen suicide become the most popular out of that scene? its all pretty fucking arbitrary and all those shitty white sadboys making bland indie suck. why is teen suicide as popular as he is? why is carseat headrest? they all fucking suck and none of them deserve that success
Xavier Reyes
They are signed though. With runforcover. Matador is not even that much bigger of a label
Luis Moore
so sounding like indie producer is an insult now. fuck these jews and their attacks against any artist with money
Jackson Mitchell
>how could this bland record ever outsell my bland record? it must be the press >smonks dude lmao in his room all day and seethes about some nobody getting signed to a record label that hasn't had clout since Superchunk were still releasing records wonder why..
Henry Taylor
why do you care?
Eli Moore
this fag is so mad that he didnt get a matador contract
Elijah Price
also both RFC and Matador are both distro'd by WMG, and I'm pretty sure Modern Baseball charted higher on Run For Cover than anything Matador has released this decade lmao
literally no fucking difference
Nicholas Kelly
Why's he so salty? You don't have to listen to them.
Joseph Martinez
>why did teen suicide become the most popular out of that scene? its all pretty fucking arbitrary and all those shitty white sadboys making bland indie suck. why is teen suicide as popular as he is? why is carseat headrest? they all fucking suck and none of them deserve that success This, honestly.
Why would any label invest in these boring hacks?
Daniel Russell
lmao sam is a salty bitch
Ayden Wood
/thread
Easton Bailey
>lmao sam is a salty bitch That's exactly what I like about this whole thing.
Jeremiah Howard
But why is he so salty?
Grayson Miller
Will got picked up by matador
Jaxon Collins
Because Car Seat Headrest man made the same mediocre music, but tried harder to further his career, while he did nothing and he still expects success because the products are about as good as each other.
He could make this same blogpost about every single one of his label mates who nearly charted in the top 40 ffs. But he wont touch them because he's a pussy.
>Car Seat Headrest— Because there’s gotta be some group of internet teens who are really into Seroquel now instead of Xanax
this guy isn't the best writer, but holy shit that is hilarioius
Chase Cruz
t. butthurt csh fan
Will Toledo most definitely has a god complex & unironically believes he is the second coming of an artistic messiah
Grayson Rivera
except teen suicide is on run for cover and ricky eat acid is on terrible
terrible has some huge artists that are almost maintream run for cover is pretty big too, and i would say one of the most trendy labels right now
also its not like will was some random bandcamp kid that got signed suddenly his first album on bandcamp came out more than 7 years ago and he has been releasing tons of great stuff since then it took a pretty long time until he got signed, tons of labels rejected him and he literally has a song called fuck merge records
the song is so bad but they both pulled the SEXISM and MISOGYNY card over it hahahaha
this is a solid shitfest
Isaac White
i really hope will comes out with another diss track just to enfuriate them both even more
Logan Rodriguez
>Sup Forums used to love CSR and Twin Fantasy >Started hating him as soon as he got popular I'm not really surprised but it's disappointing
Justin Fisher
what the fuck is her problem?
Cooper Diaz
CSH was always hot garbage. the only people who supported his boring bedroom wankery were him and like thirty other self-fellating anons
Jack Brown
nah
Jack Young
Twin Fantasy was okay. i will be my own hell was okay.
All of the follow-ups to those albums were str8 garbito whether popular or not.
Josiah Perez
yeah its pretty ridiculous its some old unknown song im a pretty big csh fan but i never heard that one will says that kitty even reblogged it now they suddenly dug it up from somewhere and are telling will how creepy he is
Camden Baker
sam is on RFC and those bands will literally do anything to virtue signal. if an indie label put out a 10 cassette release of one of their b-side singles 5 years ago and it turns out the head of the label said 'gay' on social media, they'll write a blogpost about it.
kitty is just a literal who cloudrapper i don't know her deal beyond that her music is awful.
i don't even listen to CSH why am i doing this
Luis Long
I didn't even know kitty was still around. I dropped her when she dropped the pryde
Ethan Martinez
(You)
Parker Allen
i love how Sam's twitter goes from DAE remember le 90s pokemon card to shitty indie infighting
pretty much sums up this generation
Colton Kelly
Le wrong generashun xD
Henry Smith
>le ebin virtue signalling meme go back to Sup Forums
Josiah Stewart
every generation is a meme my dude, sometimes something embodies it
David Barnes
Do you think that's not a thing?
Charles Cook
I don't like Will at all but he's making shit tons more money than both the teen suicide fag and Kitty Pryde combined
James Young
That's happened multiple times. One was even just a demo that had maybe 100 LPs pressed or something.
Lincoln Diaz
theoretically could be but it happens way less often than i see people posting about it
Jace Davis
>I know I’m too old to get mad about... But he looks like he's 27
Kevin Green
im pretty sure it didnt happen beacuse the head of label said "gay"
Jacob Cox
google "Driftwood Records Dandy" and then look for the tumblr post starting with 'an open letter..'
it reads like a parody
David Bell
dont have time to look into the details right now but the guy from the label seems like a fucking idiot lmao
Lucas Ross
yeah he's a fucking xD retard and his label sucked and never shipped anything on time, he would've failed either way
but literally formal press releases over tumblr blogposts my dude
Asher Bailey
would mean a lot more if it wasn't coming from someone who plays in fucking Teen Suicide of all bands
Tyler Torres
this im a fan of will but wouldnt really care if anyone else would write something like this but sam is the last person who should talk shit about csh
Brandon Nguyen
Is kitty pryde jumping in on the beef?
Jack Murphy
He described his own band and projected it onto CSH.
I do find CSH overrated but they're blatantly superior to 99% of Bandcamp bands chasing the same style. Especially in the realm of bring marketable. Most Bandcamp groups competing are not fit for record labels.
Dylan Morris
>Most Bandcamp groups competing are not fit for record labels. in what way
Joseph Moore
Most of them are lazy potheads that break-up after releasing one song.
Kevin Russell
Will is a funny dude
Isaac Adams
nah
Isaiah Gonzalez
>shitting on pre-matador CSH Dont fall for this meme.
John Smith
My Back Is Killing Me Baby, Monomania, and Twin Fantasy are his best, he'll never top em
Fill In The Blank is a fun song though
Adrian Lopez
Teens of Denial is a good album
Kayden Hughes
And most of them don't even bother trying to market their music or find an audience. Will had a huge cult following before he even got signed to a label. He could have released twelve albums of himself farting into a microphone and if he got people to listen Matador would still have picked him up anyway. It has nothing to do with how good his music is.
Everyone in this thread is a dipshit. You don't ACTUALLY think that labels pick up bands because of how good their music is, right? I'm sure some of you are just being willfully ignorant so you can beat a dead horse and shit on Sam and Will but none of you are really that naive, right?
Alexander Wright
Yeah, she sees a chance to make it onto music blogs for some attention so she'll do her best. Must be weird for her knowing that she'd be a literally who if she didn't fuck Danny Brown
Lucas Roberts
>Everyone in this thread is a dipshit. You don't ACTUALLY think that labels pick up bands because of how good their music is, right? I'm sure some of you are just being willfully ignorant so you can beat a dead horse and shit on Sam and Will but none of you are really that naive, right?
Fucking this man. Labels pick up bands they think are easy to milk, it's how many dumb fans they have.
Grayson Jackson
yeah but teen suicide were tumblr darlings too. Sam had everything he needed from RFC, a label with top 40 bands, kek.
Aiden Powell
Moron
Isaiah Stewart
What is this? Wi-Fi is shitty. Explain
Cameron Morales
i feel like teen suicide was way more popular than carseat headrest before he signed to matador
Aaron James
I don't understand the whole thing about Will writing a song about Kitty, I thought he was gay? he wrote a whole album about it...
Luke Reed
Both of their best projects are EPs Coincidence?
Ryan Phillips
Whose side she on
Matthew Hughes
Dude's just bitter will's cooler than him.
Parker Gomez
I mean...he's right. CSH is terrible. I've tried soooo many times to get into them and it's just atrocious. You might hate Teen Suicide, but they still have by far and away more creative song structures, production, and melodies. That's verifiable by anyone with any sort of knowledge of music theory.
CSH is just bad all around.
Cooper Brooks
big part of this is toledo roasting Kitty Pryde (who Sam is married to) but either way CSH sucks. Teen Suicide is really uneven for the most part but they have some great songs and "to be close to you" as an album is better than anything Toledo has ever done
Leo Turner
i don't even get it
i mean i was on seroquel for a while and i feel like it would be a shitty drug to use recreationally if you don't need it
Evan Evans
i remember seeing them once as an opener and the fucking singer is like "yo whatever you do, just don't try heroin. it fucks you up"
shut up you fucking try hard
Daniel Green
dude has done heroin hundreds of times, he had a fucked up life and started using when he was like 14. shit sucks. not sure if it can be considered tryharding if he has stupid amounts of experience with it
Michael Fisher
>more creative song structures, production, and melodies >music theory it's The Unicorns and a thousand other indeh-emo bands recorded through a laptop mic lmfao.
there's like one good band from this scene and they weren't even in this scene
Evan Hill
fuck off sam. you're acting like a high schooler.
Jaxon Wood
you're just jealous bc you could have been justin long rn but you fucked it up and lost your chance with lavren.
Charles Brooks
How is that trying hard unless you're fucking retarded
Brayden James
telling the audience that you tried heroin is the most try hard shit i can imagine. who gives a shit? i'm sure tons of people in the audience have tried hard drugs
but i guess it gives him that indie cred right
Adrian Sanders
how else will the room full teenage girls on their phones know he's gone through hardship?
Asher Cruz
exactly
Samuel Bell
we can see you're talking to yourself dumbass
Isaac Thompson
Funny how Teen Suicide started out as satire of the countless bedroom emo pop bands out there and ended up being better than all of them due to pure songwriting chops.
Sam is a cunt but he's 10 times the musician Will is. CSH is really just The Strokes light with long song structures and emo confessional lyrics.
Zachary Perez
Have you ever been to one of their shows? It's exactly like that.
Thank god TBLA broke up and never got near tumblr.
Easton Mitchell
The sam ray blogpost reads just like something someone would write on Sup Forums
He probably frequencts Sup Forums. Ironically all he accomplished was getting CSH more exposure. He even samefagged his own blog post forgetting to sign out before complimenting himself
Blake Hernandez
Thirds sentence >Being mad is a young man’s game, and I am neither young nor willing to play games anymore. >is 26
And then I stopped reading.
Levi Stewart
bingoooooo
if you knew sam you'd realize he did that intentionally and sarcastically
Lincoln Peterson
What is this about Matador? They've been treading water on their 90s has been's 7"s and compilations for over ten years. They barely could push Will's garbage into the top 200.
I'd like to hear his opinion on Modern Baseball or Pity Sex. I bet he wouldn't touch that with a ten foot pole.
Elijah Hall
>tried harder to further his career lol will was playing a show and a matador rep just happened to be there. Literally dumb luck
Ethan Clark
I don't understand why this drug addicted faggot feels like he is entitled to success. Really makes you think...
Nolan Sanchez
hey man, it's funny how nature do that
Owen Parker
I love how he thinks that's old
William Davis
Why would Sam even publish that? How salty do you have to be that your shitty bedroom pop didn't get as much traction as CSH?
Jonathan Fisher
he's being post-ironic you dip
Owen Flores
...
Nolan Wright
He's not pretending to be retarded you dip. He's expressing his opinion in a crude way while having a laugh at the folks who get triggered by it (aka you). If you knew his personality even slightly you'd know he's a sarcastic cunt.