Listening to the Smiths

>listening to the Smiths
>Meat is Murder comes on

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Whining about vegetarians and vegans is pretty passe desu, and I'm neither the former nor the latter.

Vegans preach too much. Nothing wrong with vegetarians

Me when any smiths song comes on

morrisey is so against violence to animals but is a xenophobic asshole. makes me think

nothing wrong with being xenophobic senpai

Vegans are generally right about most things.

I eat meat, but I can't morally justify it if I was asked to.

People are just mad that they're right. They still shouldn't judge people because everyone's consciousness has i's own context that nobody else understands completely.

They should shut up more, but a lot of people just get triggered because they are right and it hurts to actually think about it.

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>Vegans preach too much.
how many vegans have you actually met? I know 4 & have dated 1, none of them are preachy about it.
it's just an inconvenience going out to eat with them sometimes

>>listening to the Smiths

>cant morally justify it
dude we've been eating meat since our inception. We have evolved to eat meat. We are healthiest when we eat meat. I bet you dont even go to the gym.

you fool. look at me. look at my green skin and oddly shaped muscles. this is the power of veganism

That's not a moral argument.

Try again.

You can eat a meatless diet now and be just as healthy as anybody else. That is no longer true.

You won't get as big if you work out, but that's not a moral argument.

Veganism is harder, but not vegetarians.

>Listening to Giles Corey
>I'm Going to do it comes on

Also there are several cultures that are strictly vegetarians and they are alive and healthy populations.

You just like eating meat. It's okay if that's your position, but be honest.

Humans aren't evolved to eat meat, though.
Piero Scaruffi himself wrote a rant about it.

>arguing about vegetarianism/veganism and not the music
Sup Forums

it's a good song tho

t. meatitarian

well do you eat fucking Vinyls or what

why do vegans think that by not eating meat they're going to make a difference? the meat industry will never stop and animals will never stop being treated like shit

all they're doing is missing out on burgers

scaruffi is quite possibly the least educated man in the world

It's so they don't feel personally guilty about encouraging it?

I mean, that's all one person can do. Use your consciousness how you want, man.

What are, personal ethics?

a vehicle for increasing your unwarranted sense of self importance

if you feel so strongly about something then get involved rather than shitposting on twitter or whatever

>I bet you don't even got to the gym
This is a pretty stupid thing to say as there's a whole part of the vegan community that's all about "vegan gains" and they're pretty healthy. We have access to non-meats that provide us with the same nutrients as meat now. We could totally continue as a society if we all went vegan and nothing of value would really be lost.

They actively protest to end the meat industry and refusing to eat meat is meant to try and stop supporting the industry.

yeah but there's literally no reason to do that other than a bunch of people upset about jews throwing chickens into meat grinders
that's fine, just don't throw paint at me because you're upset with said jews

What about the whole animals eat animals and the food chain? What vegans say about that?

something stupid probably

Animals eating is an amoral act. They do not cage, farm, and harvest other animals. They only eat to live.

I don't cage, farm or harvest animals either

You buy animals that have been though. Your, and others, eating of the animals is the only reason they're subjected to the treatment in the first place. Thus, you bear responsibility.

>listening to the Smiths
>Queen is dead comes on

>>listening to the Smiths

Cooked meat is literally the eason our brains developed, and are the sole reason we can even afford to live a vegan life
If everyone went vegan we would face similar problems we face as we eat meat

>thinking Morrissey was the real genius behind The Smiths

What, the whole album?
Like you get to cemetery gates and you're like "Shit! This is the queen is dead!"

He was though.

Proof: Look at Moz's solo career. Now look at Marr's.

Yo guys

I'm vegan

>We are healthiest when we eat meat
Source?

Morality isn't real

>be a vegetarian
>never bring it up unless it comes up naturally in the conversation
>never criticize anyone for eating meat unless they ask why i don't
>they get personally offended by your choice not to eat meat
>GOD YOU'RE SO PREACHY user. EAT A BURGER LOL

The solo career where he relied on other songwriters yet again?

Just because you're not annoying doesnt mean your friends aren't.

citation needed

If you criticize people they'll probably shit on you

What? I've never had any vegetarian or vegan friends

did you actually read my post?

>never criticize anyone for eating meat unless they ask why i don't

sounds like you criticize people

No. Should I?

Okay, how about this - justify mass production of meat and animal byproducts environmentally. Try to convince me that the mass raising of animals for slaughter is sustainable for the Earth.

try to convince me that replacing animal farms with crops is a good thing

not that user but

>huge cut in CO2 emissions
>less processing
>less waste

lol okay edgelord.

it's as real as an individual decides.

It's not like Morrissey doesn't have a say in the sound and direction.

>listening to the Smiths
>Morrissey opens his mouth

>implying farm machinery doesn't make a fuckload of emissions
how many mpg do you think a combine gets

not to mention what happens when the ground gets over farmed and goes barren

nigga is right tho

I can't get past how edge-worthy the lyrics are. Same with "I Don't Love".

>hurr durr muh suicide

>Listening to Gil Scott Heron
>Whitey on the Moon comes on

Okay but how much worse is meat processing? Probably a lot worse

>listening to The Smiths
>not singing the over the top vocals that sound like youre gargling cock
plebs

I can't listen to the smiths in the car without loudly singing like a huge fag

It's not as though he actually wrote the music though. Without that he's just written second-rate poetry.

>listening to The Smiths
>Asleep comes on

That's okay I didn't feel like being happy today anyway

i think it's a great song

It is a good song at the very least, though far from being the best song on the album. The problem is most people on here confuse disliking the song's message with it being an objectively bad song.

This dude is right.

Lmao actually do your research before posting.

>what's the point of anything

He actually knows what he's talking about often even if it's only to make himself look smarter.

And to add on, I really doubt this is true. Cultures which have diets that consist of vegetables, grains, and fish live far longer than meat eating cultures. Look at Japan.

what is the point of anything? why bother being upset?

>he reads scaruffi unironially

you could have just told us you were retarded