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Anyway, starting out a new script I want to direct later and I'm liking it, but I wonder if the tone of the opening is gonna clash with the rest of the short.
What about you? What are you working on?
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Currently "working" on a comedy short with my friends. I put that in quotes because we have wageslave jobs and it's impossible to find a day when our schedules synchronize and allow us a day to film.
I'm slowly working through the Werner Herzog masterclass, so far I'm enjoying it and it's been pretty insightful. I've been putting off doing the assignments, some of them are pretty crazy but I'll try to get to them eventually.
I want to funnel my money into filmmaking but I'm taking out student loans and my parents want me to get my own car. Yes I know I'm a loser.
>I've been putting off doing the assignments, some of them are pretty crazy but I'll try to get to them eventually.
Those sound fucking interesting. Tell me more.
Get a vespa it's like 800 dollars at most and you don't have to worry about parking.
I dig it actually.
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i made a quote instead of actually just posting blank so i deleted the link.
but yeah made a trailer for a short i quickly made and submitted to festivals
and thank you btw
I remember this short, I got Confederacy Of Dunces vibes from it.
Cool shit, nigga. The millenialscope gag made me kek
thanks duder
i've actually been thinking of checking that novel out because of you.
Fuckin' sweet man. It's long but the descriptions alone are fucking hilarious.
Anyway, here's a page of what I've been writing, posted it a couple times before. I want to do a bit of a character-driven road trip movie but I'm SHIT at dialogue.
Already changed the Man's character to a kindly cowboy-type, I thought it was appropriate for him because I was a little high. Plus gave him a name, Jones.
very nice
you plannin on producing this?
There's one where you're supposed to just pick a direction, and walk for 100 miles with a notebook in hand so you can write down everything that changes. You also have to read a book called The Peregrine that I can't find a torrent/DL for anywhere, and he wants you to film a couple of scenes on your cell phone to be watched by the rest of the class.
Thanks for the tip senpai
Yeah, only the first scene though. It's nice and simple, and I can do it myself with a couple of friends on the weekend without much trouble if I can convince Walgreens to let us film there.
sweeeet.
i'd suggest to ask two weeks in advance and then check up with them on the week between asking and shooting.
They've always been cool with me filming there before, but it'd probably be good for me to ask again just in case.
Here's my shit cut of an old short I shot behind there. Sound is beyond atrocious.
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>There's one where you're supposed to just pick a direction, and walk for 100 miles with a notebook in hand so you can write down everything that changes.
That sounds awesome, I kinda want to sign up.
I got you, mate.
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Fucked that up.
Tidying up a script for a micro budget movie about antisocial high school seniors. I'd like to direct it once I know about directing.
Has anyone here directed music videos? I'm considering directing videos for struggle rappers in my spare time to learn about that kinda shit.
ah I feel.
did you ever finish that? I feel like that short would be a lot with some adr and some foley.
nigga where do you live where it's okay to do gunshit in public.
music videos are a good way to make some solid cash
I forgot that they would actually pay you for it. Should make for a comfy side gig.
>Anyway, starting out a new script I want to direct later and I'm liking it, but I wonder if the tone of the opening is gonna clash with the rest of the short.
Tell us about it faggot
Ayy thanks McFamily
I did it behind that Walgreens, at like fucking midnight. Anyone that could have seen us probably passed by too quick to notice. No one came to question us except for a good old friend of mine who I hadn't talked to in a while, he thought we were doing some sort of porno.
Never did end up finishing it btw.
See
You're welcome.
I created the setup, it's nothing to repost it.
I just can't think of a strawpoll at the moment.
Currently working on a short comedy script. All of my stuff so far has received very positive reviews, so I'm hopeful about entering into some competitions next year.
Anyone saving up for/buying/have equipment? I'm thinking about grabbing a used Sony a7s along with audio/lighting equipment that I've already sorted out a list for. I'm most interested in writing, but it seems that one of the best ways to get noticed is to actually produce something.
I'm okay with the minimal shit that I have but a wide angle lens and maybe an IR filter would be really lovely.
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How do I further develop my characters? I feel like that's the most important part of a movie/show, interesting characters. I want my characters to be iconic. I want there to be fanart for ages to come.
Here's a strawpoll: strawpoll.me
And here's the strawpolls from the last two thread:
What're people's experiences with documentary making?
Anyone know how to get their first job in the biz without experience/connections?
Who the fuck would want to make documentaries
Character development comes through the ways the characters react to different situations. People love it when a character starts off with set attitudes and then goes through events that cause them to change those attitudes in emotionally targeted scenes. One rule to follow is that the audience always has to know why and how the changes happened, and the second rule is that the changes have to be meaningful to the story.
Double audience bonus if those characters developments directly involve the characters' relationships with other characters. People love characters caring about each other.
A boy (Chris Pratt) falls in love with a girl (Jennifer Lawrence).
Unable to ask her to prom, he is gifted by a random man(Morgan Freeman) with the girl's phone number. Never minding the strange area code, he immediately calls her, and is overjoyed to find out that she wants to go down on him as well.
But, the next day, when he recounts the previous day's confessions to his best friend (Seth Rogan), he only looks at him with a perplexed expression. After looking on facebook, he finds out that the girl he called using his Samsung Galaxy S7 edge is not the same girl he fell in love with. In fact, she doesn't exist in this planet at all. She is the girl's robotic alien counterpart (powered by Windows 10), who has fallen in love with the MC's own robotic alien self(Powered by Linux), who too is blissfully unaware of her crush.
Hijinks ensue as the two strike up a deal to give each other their darkest, most private secrets in order to equip the other with the weapons they need to conquer the heart of their other selves. While the two chase their respective loved ones, ACTION ensues as they begin to fall in love with each other instead and question the NATURE of CGI.
Directed by Guillermo del Toro.
You have to make something, or win something, or meet someone.
Otherwise you're just another amateur who they can't put any faith in.
>tfw just ordered a Raven
hopefully I don't regret not spending the extra $$$ for a Scarlet-W. I shoot EF generally but the extra sensor size would've been nice
How much money do you guys put into the pursuit of a film production career?
I'm saving up funds for hosting on the black list and contest/festival entries, but I have a surplus of cash beyond that as well.
I'm envious. What kind of editing set up are you running with?
Is this a comedy? Or at least in the vein of Tarantino and Rodriguez?
That's something I'm looking into right now actually. I have a fairly hefty gaming rig I use for editing C100 footage, but I'm gonna build a new machine exclusively for 4K editing/grading. Haven't fully decided on specs yet
Can I borrow a thousand dollars
Not very helpful, but thanks anyway.
how can you afford that shit? you don't belong in these threads nigga
Yeah, I'm looking into a workstation right now, but can't decide if I should go low or mid range with it. I'll probably invest less in it, and more on production value in general, and just suffer through the slower processing.
A $15,000 camera package really isn't much man. shit's so much cheaper than it used to be
I somehow don't think I'd ever see that $1000 returned.
Yeah, comedy. That entire scene is a really long "To Be Continued" meme.
I want to expand on it but I'm realizing that there'a a couple bits of the Man character that aren't adding up.
I rewrote him today as a kind cowboy type (think small-town America shopkeeper) because I like writing dialogue for those, but it makes no sense given he's threatening a guy at gunpoint to drive him somewhere.
He can't drive himself because of some mystical government voodoo shit that fucked up his hands and makes them basically EMPs.
oi cameron nguyen where you based in
Is this a short? The one thing I'll commend is that you don't waste time.
And there's a good comedy scene there if you treat this Man and the protag as if they're on a road trip. It's called a metaphorical relationship.
Do you really need it?
First of all go fuck yourself
Second of all Indy.
Yeah, I'd wanted to make it like an all-in-one-night kind of movie, like The Warriors or Collateral. The tone I really want to strike in terms of visuals is Midnight Special, that movie did some shit I hadn't seen before and I loved it.
Do you?
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was gonna offer a new memewave meetup
Shame, I would have gone.
Yes. My life is going nowhere extraordinarily quickly.
I haven't been able to find a job and after directing, I don't have a backup career planned.
Where should I submit my script to? How do I get it noticed?
I primarily want to direct, but I rather not waste my time making shoddy garbage.
I've never shot anything, can't afford a decent camera anyway, and don't have any friends/crew.
A good script can be ruined very easily.
I remember that.
Would watch
Writing is probably the hardest industry position to break into. At a base level, your work is going to look identical to everyone else's with not much incentive for anyone to read it. It's just words on a page.
You can't 'polish' writing visually like you can cinematography. Basically, if I put out a reel with visuals on the level of The Revenant I'd be hired tomorrow. If I put out a script as good as The Revenant I might not even start my career for 10 more years.
If you want to direct, or shoot, you have to just do it. Writing alone will probably get you nowhere. It's hard but it's your only reasonable path forward.
Oi.
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Why Skype and not Discord?
Thanks for making me feel like shit.
I'm not white, user. I haven't been able to find a job and my mom doesn't have thousands of dollars she can blow to get me access to classes, a camera, and a crew.
"Just do it" is not an option. And again, white waste my time and money on a mediocre project? If I can script noticed and some investors I might be able to churn out something truly phenomenal.
community college, user.
they usually have tons of equipment and willing crew.
Found this "comedy" short on /r/Filmmakers about a guy getting molested. It's shit, but the woman is hot.
I probably won't even pass high school.
Google "A boy falls in love with a girl". Shit bricks.
focus on finishing high school. you will have more time in college.
fuck do you not know about financial aid
STOP RESPONDING TO IT
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Haha sorry man, didn't mean to make you feel like shit. Filmmaking in general is a fucking tough gig, and yeah obviously it's classist by definition. Xavier Dolan got his first feature made at 20 (and it got into Cannes) simply because his dad was loaded and gave him the money to do it. It's not fair and I don't know what to tell you. There's a reason most people look down on low-budget artists.
graduated from """film school"" like 3 years ago and im picking up garbage at a construction site. been putting off my screenwriting since. everydsy i think about killing myself, but ive also decided to give my life to film, and i will make shit. even if i dont make friends or acquaintances, i will make some shit. and then i can die
where you live brah
AZ bud
yeah you should definitely kill yourself man
maybe i'll film it , and make a mooooooooooooooooooovie , and you wont see it. you kill yourself first
I'm not going to college.
nigger go make a movie with your cell phone
I'm alright with you making me feel like shit because this is a nice response. Life indeed is horrible and unfair, but I'm going to try and get my scripts noticed anyway. Either I make it or I kill myself, I'm fine with either. I just hope I don't fall in love or accidentally get a girl pregnant.
If you can get girls you're way ahead of most people on Sup Forums in terms of charisma. maybe you have a chance my man
Can someone explain to me why every wanna be filmmaker and screen writer is irrecoverably untalented? I never see improvement either. If you don't have your shit together and a real vision a year in you are going to be nothing. The entire indie filmmaking scene is just total trash.
I am not being a dick but it just seems true to me. They have no idea about the history of art, history of philosophy, history of literature, you know everything that benefits to being an artist in any medium. The most that they ever read was fucking Lord of the Rings or Harry Potter.
Filmmaking needs to get serious and elitist again. I am sick of this shit.
I most definitely cannot get girls. I'm an 18 year old kissless virgin that's wanted to die more and more every passing day since I was 11.
It's just that I made a friend recently and we kind of have a strange relationship. There's no way anything could actually happen though, she lives on a different continent.
>They have no idea about the history of art, history of philosophy, history of literature
That shit is boring, nigga.
Have fun never achieving the artistic level of your filmmaking heroes then. Just keep posting on a cave painting image board, jerking off to anime, and watching netflix. You will turn out great I promise, all those film school dollars will totally be worth it.
Great projecting, kid, but that's a mostly incorrect assessment. I think anime porn is garbage.
I actually agree with your post, but I can't control what I find boring and I don't want to suffer through shit on the off-chance that I MIGHT enjoy myself in the end, discover some sort of higher understanding, or be able to cram a shitload of "sophisticated" references into my filmography. For example I tried reading Waiting For Godot the other day and I had to put it down around page 5. Maybe it's my depression stopping me, maybe I just don't care.
This drew me in more than most Hollywood trailers, good job. The dialogue starting at 00:28 is a bit indistinct though.
>Waiting For Godot
Oh come on, Beckett's not that intimidating...
I was bored, confused (it's supposed to be funny, right?), and thrown off by the old fashioned language.
I thought to myself "It's a play, maybe I should be watching it", but I'm probably not going to do that either.
I hope you are in your early 20s or younger other wise you are fucked for life. If not maybe you can get by working a movie theater and making shitty amateur films for the rest of your life.
if you are 23 or younger:
Maybe you shouldn't be a filmmaker if you can't rise above the same boredom and depression almost EVERY kid goes through when they are growing up and working on a craft, as well as the self. The whole point is to study and work your ass off even if you hate life, it's just a phase and you are going to waste your formative years as a human being and artist if you waste your time on hedonism because of your feelings. For instance I can't believe how many people I encounter who want to be filmmakers and screenwriters and they haven't even fucking read Shakespeare beyond fucking Highschool level. It's fucking tragic what is becoming of this medium when every single "artist" is a fucking hedonistic retard that doesn't know anything about anything. College doesn't help either, I can't believe the fucking absolute garbage they are feeding students in Colleges these days, start fucking educating yourself man. Earnestly spend time learning about philosophy, literature, poetry, and art starting from the Greeks, as well as the history of cinema starting from the early silent era.
This is half ranting half being completely sincere and wanting to improve the community of film. I won't say who I am but I have been around a few film productions and I have been around the sundance scene and I am honestly blown away by people's ignorance towards their own craft. Hipsters and hedonists have ruined film.
I know they give you a lot of shit about the ADD millennial generation, but surely you could do better than make this kind of assessment after read FIVE FUCKING PAGES.
I understand where you're coming from, but I can assure you that I am not a hedonist and I'm not entirely sure what I'm going through can be considered a phase. I've been suicidal for 6 years at this point and have only just accepted the fact that I have clinical depression. I want to get better and get medicine so I can work and better pursue my goal of being a filmmaker, but it's not worth letting my family know I'm depressed.
This may be a stupid question, but why do you consider it crucial study poetry, literature, philosophy, and the Greeks? I genuinely want to know your answer. And in regards to Shakespeare what do you mean "beyond Highschool level"? Reading the unabridged versions of his work beyond Romeo & Juliet and Hamlet? Why is that important either?
I don't know how many pages I actually read. Might've been less than five.
Not the person you're replying to, but...why don't you give nofap a go?
It may give you the motivation to be busy to the point of having no time to be depressed.
What I'm proposing is that you cram as much information and experiences with literature, philosophy and arts so you kind of overload your brain with images and scenes you immediately can now point to and say 'THAT'S what I like, THIS is how I want it to be" in regards to film making.
I can't really convey the feeling, but it's incredibly powerful to feel a kinship in someones words from 2000 years ago.
>why don't you give nofap a go?
What the fuck is the correlation, user? You think I sit at home all day jerking off? What the fuck?
>THAT'S what I like, THIS is how I want it to be"
Why would I try to find my style and preferences (in regards to filmmaking) from art, literature and, philosophy? Shouldn't I be realizing all of that from watching more movies?
>You think I sit at home all day jerking off?
Not him, and not a nofap evangelist, but you don't have to be a big-time masturbator for nofap to make a difference to your state of mind.
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You should get it from other media, because it's what film making is...an amalgamation of different media presented together.
When paintings and photographs started to move and books were acted out and thought was conveyed, we got cinema.
Things like chiaroscuro, an absolute pivotal part of cinema, color theory...how do you think you'll be able to understand it if you can't recognize it.
How can you think of scenes if you haven't spent an entire book imagining how it looks.
You have to train the mind's eye as a film maker, you can't solely rely on the outcome of these thing which is what movies mostly are.
Film making is not it's result, it's mostly it's preparation and decisions.
What I am saying is that when it comes to decision making, it's really beneficial to have a library in your mind of words and images that make it clearer for you to convey why you come to these decisions.
>Why would I try to find my style and preferences (in regards to filmmaking) from art, literature and, philosophy? Shouldn't I be realizing all of that from watching more movies?
That's like saying a poet shouldn't be inspired to sublimity by some majestic landscape but should only get inspiration from reading other poets. If you want to create shit you should allow everything you can to have some influence on you.
Oh and I'm probably getting ahead of myself with the nofap, but depression, suicidal thoughts, lethargy, difficulty getting beyond five pages...it sounded familiar.
I'm purposing it as a tool to get going and get off the couch, not as a religion.
Wallowing in one's own misery is extremely comforting in a weird way, but it doesn't get you in the kind of frantic mood that is necessary for a focus on film making.