Let's talk about it
Also, was this disappointing, or not? It's not the best Squarepusher, but I'm starting to reconsider how I used to think of it as EDM-like IDM-lite.
IDM
Joseph Young
Adrian Martin
It's not EDM Lite it's a lot more complex than most EDM. The production on it is what bothers me the most. It's so blown out and loud that it's exhausting to listen to.
Carter Perez
Any Access to Arasaka fans here?
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Josiah Flores
Not EDM-lite, EDM-like
It's obviously not EDM-lite, I played it for some friends of mine once who listen to EDM and they couldn't get into it at all.
Hunter Wilson
I'd agree with saying it's EDM-like, but it seems natural for Squarepusher to be drawing from the contemporary dance music climate like he did with his jungle-like tracks. He's putting his own spin on things but there's a sort of production grammar being used.
Ryder Price
Seeing it live gave it a lot more heft, to be honest.
Lucas Sullivan
>unironically using "EDM"
Jacob Diaz
>not "IDM"
Joseph Phillips
Isn't it similar to the one before that - Ufabulum
I don't know about this one but the last 2 minutes or so of this track:
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Are like holy shit dude
Chase Reyes
Squarepusher past Ultravisitor is absolute trash.
Cooper Reyes
Ufabulum was alright.
Hudson Kelly
It's not his best but it's a lot better than Ufabulum. Kwang Bass is probably the highlight for me.
Daniel Reyes
I wouldn't say it's absolute trash, but Ultravisitor is a high point in IDM, or just albums in general. It's really good, extremely well crafted, and well made. I don't really listen to it a lot, I don't necessarily get a lot of joy out of it, and I don't care for the bass guitar pieces in terms of pleasure, but it's technical and emotional, extremely meticulous and done to a bombastic degree, in a good way. I can respect that, appreciate it as art.
Christopher Richardson
It was a lot better than his Shobaleader One output and was more memorable than Ufabulum, which made me quite happy.
Jace Ward
>IDM
l m a o
Tyler Cox
IDM IS NOT A GENRE STOP SAYING IDM IS A GENRE
Landon Sanchez
"Scene" then, I never understood why people get so worked up by the IDM name.
Thomas Fisher
INTELLIGENT
Benjamin Cruz
NO
STOP IT
Tyler Rivera
idk because it all sounds different
like BoC and Squarepusher being the same genre? really?
Robert Jenkins
DANCE
Have you heard the expression "umbrella genre"? Also not all bands inside a genre label sound similar, think of all the different kinds of post-punk or post-rock that you can have. They're all obviously associated acts with a music scene of the 90s and early 00s.
Luis Turner
to me 'electronic' is an umbrella genre, or 'techno', but not IDM which is really narrow and to most people is just a synonym for 'bands on warp'
but yeah i get that it's supposed to be a scene, although i don't think it really was even much of a scene, and no one in the scene ever used the term IDM (i guess it's a bit like krautrock in that respect)
Austin Brown
>and no one in the scene ever used the term IDM (i guess it's a bit like krautrock in that respect)
Or minimal synth that was also named in retrospect. There's a big picture that encompasses them all, even if they were not aware.
And yeah I get your point but most of the time it's because people haven't branched from the top Warp acts yet. A lot of the so-called IDM artists outside of Warp share some characteristics or time period with the more known acts.
Christopher Bailey
i think, with a few exceptions, most non-warp-IDM was usually related to one or more of the warp artists, and the warp artists for the most part each had their own distinctive styles
so yeah a genre kind of grew out of that, but it was all in retrospect
and for like the first 6 or 7 years the IDM list was the only place anyone used the term IDM, it only really became a genre name later after all the second wave jumped on it, and it was them who used it to describe and associate with the warp stuff